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Old 03-05-2014, 13:31   #341
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Like SD stated, the Gen4 RSA's handle recoil pretty well. If you need more spring the easiest thing to do is get a Gen4 to Gen3 adapter from Jager and use a Stainless Gen3 guide rod with 24# or thereabouts spring.
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Old 03-06-2014, 03:35   #342
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Thanks for the info, guys.
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Old 04-01-2014, 19:29   #343
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:52   #344
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Good lookin' 21! Now you have the right platform for making the most powerful Glock!
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Old 04-07-2014, 18:32   #345
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Very nice looking G21. Congrats!!
BTW guys, if anyone would like a good deal, shipped free, on a brand new in the box Lone Wolf 45-40Super 6'' stainless steel barrel to shoot 40 Super out of your G21, please PM me.
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:13   #346
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Kevin at KKM said he would make a 6" G21 barrel that has comp threading on the end of it, so I'm kind of stoked about that. I plan on ordering one of them in the next few weeks.

I have a question, I figured I'd ask here before I do an internet search, but I still want to get the leade lengthened in ultimately both, and Kevin said they can't ream their .45's any deeper. I want to be able to load the WFN design hardcasts to a longer OAL than the standard KKM allows.

Does anyone know of a place where I could send the barrel(s) in to get the throat reamed a little deeper?
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Old 04-14-2014, 19:31   #347
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You can, for about $80, order a .45 caliber pistol finishing reamer from Brownells and do it yourself, as well as make any other .45 caliber pistol barrel you have a .460 Rowland barrel. I have reamed two LWD barrels and one KKM barrel for .460 Rowland. And, even though I shouldn't have, I used an adjustable wrench to turn the reamer. The reamer is impressively sharp and cuts very easily.


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Also, I had plenty of cutting length left over after cutting deep enough for .460 Rowland, so you don't have to worry about the reamer not cutting deep enough. And, the reamer tapers the beginning or the "forcing cone" of the rifling.
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Old 04-19-2014, 14:57   #348
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Thanks for the info, I looked into some of it and really I just need a throating reamer. I plan on keeping the chamber the same (for continued ACP and Super use), it's just the throating that needs some love. KKM said their reamer cuts both the chamber and throat at the same time.

It looks like Brownells has a Manson .45 cal throating reamer for $40. That might be the best bet, and I know Clymer makes one too but it seems to be harder to find. Of course none of this is needed really, but it woud be nice to get some extra length out of some of those hardcasts.
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Old 05-24-2014, 04:38   #349
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I haven't for sure made up my mind on a 6" KKM for the 21 to use .45 SUPER in, my basic thought is that all I'm doing is paying $225 for an extra 1" of barrel. Sure I'd get more velocity, but truth is, I don't need it. An extra 50-75 fps on top of what I've already got isn't going to make it any more effective.

I'm still going to try and ream out the throat a bit more in my 5" KKM, but that's on the back burner until I can find a reamer.

I decided to try some of the Beartooth 265gr Keith bullets, both for the .45 Colt and I'm going to give them a spin in the SUPER. They have a nice meplat of .350" and should also cut a nice crisp hole too. I'm not sure what OAL I'll be able to get out of them, but suspect I'll be able to get 1,250 fps out of them, give or take a little.

Too bad it will be another 4-5 months before the bullets get here though :( I have some Beartooth 300gr and 345gr hardcasts coming with that same order, I have some nice nuclear .45 Colt loads I'm going to work up.

It's fun to play with SUPER, love that it's so capable yet at the same time full well knowing that it doesn't have to be driven to max to flat out perform, but it's hard not to sometimes. I'll leave the real big .45 stuff for the Ruger!
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:46   #350
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IIRC, I had to load my BT 265's about 1.185" so they would drop/chamber into my LW barrel. I haven't tested them at distance, but when I was chronographing loads the target behind the chrony had one ragged hole in it after some 25 rounds.
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Old 06-01-2014, 06:26   #351
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Good heads up dougader, are your 265's the Keith style or the WFN? Either way I hope to get the same kind of accuracy as you! I'll probably load some spicy just to see what it can do but will likely settle on something a little milder, mainly focusing on which load is the most accurate.
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:41   #352
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The 265's I have been using are the WFN-GC (GC = gas check) bullets from Beartooth. I use them in both 45 Super and 45 Colt.
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Old 06-03-2014, 06:43   #353
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Old 06-07-2014, 13:46   #354
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Lookin' good!
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Old 06-09-2014, 22:42   #355
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Nice!
I have one very similar. It's off to One Source Tactical right now having a Trijicon RMR machined into the slide.
Cant wait to shoot some 185 Barnes DPX @ 1500fps through it at 200yds! Think this will be an excellent hunting side arm.
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Old 06-09-2014, 22:47   #356
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Hey SD,
have you, by chance, loaded up any Federal HST 230gr to Super++ velocities? I just bought 500 pull downs and will be trying some. Curious if the hold together at 1300 or so.

Still trying to settle on my "all around load" It's between the Barnes 185@1500 to the XTP 250@1250. A good 230@1300 or so might be the cat's meow but most of the 230's are really optimized for .45ACP velocities. Have you found any 230's that handle velocity better than the XTP?
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have you, by chance, loaded up any Federal HST 230gr to Super++ velocities? I just bought 500 pull downs and will be trying some. Curious if the hold together at 1300 or so.

Still trying to settle on my "all around load" It's between the Barnes 185@1500 to the XTP 250@1250. A good 230@1300 or so might be the cat's meow but most of the 230's are really optimized for .45ACP velocities. Have you found any 230's that handle velocity better than the XTP?
CT, I do have some 230gr HST's laying around (from pulled .45 GAP HST's I had some years back) but I haven't done any sort of testing with them. I would be a little doubtful if they'll hold at 1300, I say that because I did load up some 180gr HST in a warmer .40 at around 1,200 and it didn't do so well. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say 1100 is about tops, but the 230gr might hold at 1200, but that's a big maybe.

As for the 230's CT, for doing around 1300 the XTP is the best I've found so far, and really at that piont I'd rather be shooting the 250gr XTP anyways. Hope to see some other folks posting here with their .45 Super results!
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Old 06-18-2014, 04:30   #358
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Would anyone here be willing to use a comped gun for defensive purposes as, say, an all-around woods gun? I think that is the only way I could convince myself to go compensated.

I would probably just mount the threaded barrel and comp for woods carry and probably load it up with some 255gr Keith SWCs at around 1100fps or more depending on how it runs (with 1000fps being about the limit for safe(...ish?) Function in the OEM Gen4).

I would rather have a beartooth 255gr WFN but it is hard for me to start a project and not be able to finish it until 5 months down the road, hehe. The 255 SWCs are widely available and with a meplat of .32 at that velocity it should still provide a pretty notable wound channel, and punch through most anything it might need to out there.
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The first time I shot Underwood 45 Super out of my 30 with a KKM threaded barrel and a Yankee Hill Machine Co. 45 comp, I was absolutely amazed at how little the muzzle rose. I did not notice very much of a difference when shooting 45 acp but the muzzle control was obvious with 45 Super. The only thing that keeps me from carrying my 30 with the comp always installed is that I like sliding the gun into my pants pocket and the comp makes it too long for that.
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Old 06-18-2014, 14:43   #360
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Lindenwood,

The downsides to comps are extra length, extra noise, extra weight. Upsides are the ability to fire near .44 Mag level loads out of your G21.
I use a variety of loads to facilitate comp and no comp. Heavy WFN@ 1000 penetrates like crazy but a a stout 230XTP@ 1050 or a Barnes 185 XPD @ 1100 out of a non comped gun is nothing to sneeze at. It all just depends on how much bullet and energy you want. If I'm not actually hunting I usually don't carry a comped gun.

Sure is fun to shoot 1000 ft lb loads out of the Glock. Was shooting steel chickens at a 100 yards a couple of days ago (getting the Trijicon RMR sighted in) and it is ridiculous fun to flatten those hens standing offhand at 100
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