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11-13-2011, 22:23
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StraightShooter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quake
True enough. I wasn't taking 'zombie' at literal meaning - I was thinking "intellectual" zombies; you know, ows types...
A registered Democrat...? 
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11-13-2011, 23:01
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Location: Maine
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Hell yes, Wolf, i carry the G-20 EDC. I swapped from a G-21 that i had carried about 10 years, about 2007. I THOUGHT i loved my 45. i REALLY love my G-20.
I still use the 21 as a duty weapon, and for going to classes with. Its my backup for now, but i'm going to get another g-20 this year, and possibly a third.
A while ago, i sat down and said "if XYZ happened, what would i want on my person?" made my list, and made those items my EDC. I have no regrets for walking around with 5-6# of stuff in my pockets. Ocasionally there are some drawbacks, but not too many.
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11-13-2011, 23:44
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#53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by runcible68
1) The world has gone to Hades in a hand basket. North Korean Nazi Hippie Zombies have engulfed the planet and you only have time to grab ONE gun.
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Kel-Tec PMR-30 in .22 magnum with 30 round mags, because North Korean Nazi Hippie Zombies only weigh about 80 pounds and rarely reach 5' in height, but they sure are numerous.
So a high-cap varmint pistol is the answer.
But my real answer is my Glock 17.
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11-13-2011, 23:54
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#54
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Juris Glocktor
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If it's my current guns, I would be torn between my duty G34/M6 light-laser and factory night sights because I have tons of mags and ammo, or my newest acquisition, the m57 tokarev because the round can penetrate armor... Not sure if that's a big deal but I see a lot of mad max types in makeshift body armor and you can never be too sure.
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11-14-2011, 02:45
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My Glock 19 w/ 6 mags and my back pack full of ammo. The 19 because I like it and it will also take 17 mags and 9mm ammo is compact and I can carry more 9 than 40 or 45.
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11-14-2011, 03:58
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#56
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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HK USP 9mm. Is there any other choice, really?
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11-14-2011, 04:49
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#57
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StraightShooter
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuteTheMall
Kel-Tec PMR-30 in .22 magnum with 30 round mags, because North Korean Nazi Hippie Zombies only weigh about 80 pounds and rarely reach 5' in height, but they sure are numerous.
So a high-cap varmint pistol is the answer.
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The 30 rd .22 Magnums sure are interesting..
(multiple Grendel P-30 owner since the 1990's)
..but since the cartridge was designed for a rifle (lets say 24")
..out of a pistol there is a significant loss of velocity..
..while having a prodigious amount of blast....
.. & flash...even in daylight!
At night it looks like the Missouri is firing a salvo broadside!
Here is a interesting video comparing the bullet performance of a 5.7 pistol (5" barrel)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0npFX...eature=related
..against a .22 Magnum rifle (24" barrel)
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11-14-2011, 06:15
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#58
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.45 ACP
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Glock 30 cuz it is .45 ACP. I know it's heavy but it will do the job. I'll take my Rossi 6 1/2 inch .357mag with me for a little long distance shooting.
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11-14-2011, 06:20
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Where's my EBT?
Join Date: Apr 2011
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My suppressed G17
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11-14-2011, 06:28
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The grab and go shelf on the safe has a G17 for me and a Beretta Vertec for my wife. Sometimes I wonder if we should have the same platform.  If so, I'd be more inclined to switch to her platform.
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11-14-2011, 07:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glock30Eric
Glock 30 cuz it is .45 ACP. I know it's heavy but it will do the job. I'll take my Rossi 6 1/2 inch .357mag with me for a little long distance shooting.
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1 + 1 = 2
What part of the instructions confused you?
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11-14-2011, 09:52
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Juris Glocktor
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aceman
HK USP 9mm. Is there any other choice, really?
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Yes. After the fall of man, I don't think there will be many operators left and there will be no HK reps to kick you in the ding ding.
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11-14-2011, 11:07
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#63
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My Glock 17.
The firearm itself is rugged as hell and the magazine holds 17 rounds.
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11-14-2011, 13:47
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G30sf - plenty of mags including 13+ rounders. Will also take along my AA 22LR conversion slide if permitted.
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11-14-2011, 13:50
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One of the G22's. The sig just doesn't have the capacity for he scenario presented.
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11-14-2011, 15:47
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#66
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You're Good!
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Ruger .22
Self defense in a pinch.
Could knock a deer over with a head shot.
Squirrels, rabbits no problem.
Endless ammo.
1st runner up: Either a g19 or my 686 SW 7 shot with 38/357ammo.
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11-14-2011, 16:01
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.45 ACP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuteTheMall
1 + 1 = 2
What part of the instructions confused you?

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LOL you caught me.
Well that's really tough decision for me. I will find out what I will do on that day.
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11-14-2011, 21:02
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G23 with G23 and G22 mags; 9mm conversion barrel and G19/G17 mags.
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11-14-2011, 23:28
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Mountain Man
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Either my Glock 30 or 21.... or my ~60 year old Smith & Wesson K-22 Target pistol.
Hands down that K-22 is the finest pistol I own, insanely accurate, and it is chambered in the ubiquitous .22 LR
On the other hand I love the .45ACP, and Glocks...
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11-15-2011, 09:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Spyder
We agree on all kinds of things, Maine1.
I have often preached on this very subject in other threads. If it is an "event", lets say a solar flare nukes half the globe, then there will be total chaos with a quickness!! The solar flare will destroy most of the electronic devises. This will kill most vehicles, cell phone, iPods, and other such stuff. But more importantly it will kill cash registers, ATM's, refrigeration, water pumps, the National Power Grid... All the planes in the air might crash... all at once. Get the picture? It could be mass chaos... almost like Godzilla stomping thru Tokyo. Everyone in total panic.
You will be on foot, with what ever you have in your pockets, trying to get home. You and everyone else will be thinking one thing, Oh Sh:t, this is IT!!! What am I going to do now? Where are the kids, at school? Where is the spouse, at home or at work? How far away are you, from them, from home? Not too many people think about this stuff before it happens.
You office types, have you ever tried to walk home from work in those dress shoes you got on your feet? What is the weather like on that day?
How far do you drive to work? How long does it take? Now try it on foot...
Yup.
I don't have a .40 S&W barrel. I shoot .40 S&W out of my stock Glock 20 barrel with out any issues. Granted, I don't do it very often, but it can be done.
This is an excellent point. I carry mine, do the rest of you guys and gals carry your's?

I don't know, does this qualify as carry wear? My EDC for more than 10 years.



@ Everyone;
Sometimes it is fun to think about what you would do... You puff out your chest, quare up your jaw, and proclaim; "I'm tough, I could do it..." How many of us live it, every day?
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What do you need to shoot 40 S&W in the Glock 20? Is it reliable?
Could you shoot 357SIG as well?
I know that 40 in my SIG is a piece of cake and has worked perfect for thousands of rounds, but the 10mm magazines are different, the frame is also bigger, how would that work?
FerFAL
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11-15-2011, 11:13
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Location: Kansas City
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Sub Compact XD 9mm for me. I have done all my training with it, I have the most mags for it and by far the most ammo. Not to mention I have multiple carry options with various holsters. By far the pistol in my collection that I am most comfortable with.
I would miss my night sights on my 1911 though...
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11-15-2011, 11:17
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11-15-2011, 11:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fx77
Would choose the colt Python in 357
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Is this you, third from the right??

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11-15-2011, 12:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FerFAL
What do you need to shoot 40 S&W in the Glock 20? Is it reliable?
Could you shoot 357SIG as well?
I know that 40 in my SIG is a piece of cake and has worked perfect for thousands of rounds, but the 10mm magazines are different, the frame is also bigger, how would that work?
FerFAL
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I have done the research, but have no spent the money to do this.
The most reliable setup is to run the standard G20 magazine and get a conversion barrel from a reputable place like KKM or Lone Wolf for 40S&W and 357Sig.
I have been told that you can run 40S&W (10mm Short) in a standard G20 without changing the barrel. Because the 10mm head spaces on the rim, I would not think that this would be 100% reliable. Because the bullet has to jump to the rifling I would not expect it to be as accurate and I wouldn't want to do this on a regular basis for fear of screwing up the 10mm barrel.
I know what you are thinking the magazine should be an issue, but it doesn't appear to be. Because the 357Sig, 40S&W and 10mm all are the same width, the standard mag works.
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11-15-2011, 12:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RWBlue
The most reliable setup is to run the standard G20 magazine and get a conversion barrel from a reputable place like KKM or Lone Wolf for 40S&W and 357Sig.
I have been told that you can run 40S&W (10mm Short) in a standard G20 without changing the barrel. Because the 10mm head spaces on the rim, I would not think that this would be 100% reliable. Because the bullet has to jump to the rifling I would not expect it to be as accurate and I wouldn't want to do this on a regular basis for fear of screwing up the 10mm barrel.
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The issue is not so much the bullet travels before hitting the rifling. Think .38 special in a .357, which is typically very accurate. The issue is that the only thing holding the round in the chamber is the extractor. This could cause reliability issues and cause undo stress on the extractor.
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Originally Posted by RWBlue
I know what you are thinking the magazine should be an issue, but it doesn't appear to be. Because the 357Sig, 40S&W and 10mm all are the same width, the standard mag works.
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The width of the lips should be the same as a .40 (and subsequently .357 sig). This issue is that the magazine is longer front to rear, so care should be taken to ensure all the rounds are set towards the back of the magazine. The other thing that can be done if you reload, make the rounds longer. This is typically what is done in wide body 1911s like the STI, where longer (10mmish) magazines are used. It should not only enhance reliability in the bigger mags, but reduce case pressure somewhat.
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