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Old 11-21-2011, 21:34   #81
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last night hours before the end of the gunshow a friend of mine was looking for a specific model of kimber the price is 105k. Our favorite gunstore told him they have stock but have to wait three mos. Hehehe.
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Old 11-21-2011, 22:22   #82
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last night hours before the end of the gunshow a friend of mine was looking for a specific model of kimber the price is 105k. Our favorite gunstore told him they have stock but have to wait three mos. Hehehe.
baka nasa siberia yung stocks nila.
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Old 11-21-2011, 22:26   #83
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hahaha oo nga there was a time na iba iba price ng stores ng items sa gunshow. ngayon halos uniform na prices nila. mukang consigned items na nga ngayon pili ka nalang kung saan mo gusto bilhin.
Parang cartel!
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Old 11-21-2011, 22:28   #84
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Gun shows now are not cheap. That's why I stopped going to the gunshow held here of all times of the year, Holy Thursday to Black Saturday.

A gunstore who does not join the gunshow has their separate gunshow at their place. This is where you can find really good deals.
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Old 11-21-2011, 22:34   #85
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The only store selling 7.62x39 is Twin Pines, at P46/rd... really, their AKs would sell much better if the buyers can afford to feed them. Reloadable. But at least the staff are friendly.

I'm ok with True Weight, they know me as I had some work done before plus I bought some parts in the past.

The phrase of the day is "Excuse me...". Please, a bigger venue next time?
These gun retailers think the 7.62x39 is made of gold. How much more for the 5.45x39.
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Old 11-21-2011, 23:28   #86
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but others would argue, why go back to THAT gun store if panget na din naman ang trato sa atin? which is right. anyway, di na naman ako babalik dun at makakaisa lang sya sa akin! kaya ayaw ko gamitin yung gun na yan at it brings back bad memories! nagmimiss ako pag yan ang gamit ko!

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Exact same experience here...that's why my first gun was a ParaOrd too. Ako naman pag pasok ng store, wala man lang pumansin sa akin din. I had to ask a friend that is a regular from that store to get me prices. I remember a Schuemann AET barrel from them was like 40K more or less. Luckily Armscor became one of the dealers and I was able to get my Edge at a more reasonable/fair price.
Ans remember the milling work you wanted to be done by that same store on your slide? I think the quote was a few thousand, I can't remember the exact figure pero I wanted to make tawad because you really can't accurately quantify milling work since it is more labor intensive than any consumables involved. So I opened my mouth on Ans behalf and made an offer that was lower than what the OWNER quoted. Sagot ng owner: if you want it at that price, then ganon lang din yung trabaho na igagawa ko sa iyo. Call me sensitive but I was a little pissed off. Maybe a more courteous answer would have been better. Makes you wonder, if you pay at his price and he wants to increase his profits, maybe he can do less work on it?

That's why I like buying from Deenoh. No BS, straight to the point, tapos good price pa regardless kung gun show o hinde.
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Old 11-22-2011, 00:53   #87
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Wow I'm glad I am not the one to point out the gripes we commonly share when visiting the gun show. They are really not discounted but the 10% discount they say will just go to the licensing fee etc. Malaki pa rin ang mark-up ng dealers because they don't get the firearms at SRP, mas mababa pa yan for dealer prices. Just rule of thumb try to expect the price at 3X the SRP dahil sa mark-up, taxes and importation costs and FED fees.

Regarding the snooty sellers, it is very common because they don't know p.r. or customer interaction. They are after the sales only just like any business here like buying a car or what have yous. It won't matter if you buy or not because they know they will be the one whom gun buyers would seek. They have this "tanong ka ng tanong di ka naman pala bibili" attitude which is really a no-no when selling. Some buyers are also obnoxious because they have the money to spare. Eto yung mga goon-type looking at mukhang killer na mahilig sa baril at mayabang na meron sila.

Ang maganda lang sana dito next time parang maging one-stop shop na totoong discounted ang mga items para dayuhin ng mamimili. Iba naman ang Shot show kasi it's a showcase of their new products di tulad dito na parang palengke ang dating. I would bet more than 50% who go to gun show are usiseros which I do not see anything wrong kasi nga show eh.

Haay naku, pet peeves

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Old 11-22-2011, 02:41   #88
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tataka naman ako sa inyo
ang tagal nyo ng shooter, ang hilig nyo pa rin magpuntang gun show
pang beginner lang yun
kung gusto ko makakita ng magandang baril at mabait na tao, sa firing range ako napunta
Pwede pa makiputok bukod sa himas
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:03   #89
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kaya loyal ako sa isang certain gunstore na yung mismong may ari ang kausap ko.

pag sinabi nila...yun ang nangyayari.
maski nasa las pinas pa sila dun ako pumupunta.

their word is their bond.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:21   #90
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but others would argue, why go back to THAT gun store if panget na din naman ang trato sa atin? which is right.
Non-gunshow experience:
Baguhan lang ako when I had a bad experience with a popular gun store.
Kasama ko yung late uncle ko nun, and he felt worse about it than I did.
Hindi bale na ang details, basta pangit, and my uncle made sure the store
heard about it. I gave the store a second chance, and haven't regretted
it. Dun ko kinuha yung Bersa ko. The way I see it, anyone can have a bad
day (within reason), even gunstore employees.

Also some time back, pero sa gunshow naman:
Another gun store, one of the biggest, basically took my money and lied
to me. After several weeks of claiming "processing delays", they admitted
that they hadn't even filed my application. Binawi ko yung order, but they
still charged me a few hundred pesos as "filing fee" (kahit na they hadn't
filed anything) Funny guys. When I'd first ordered, at the Gunshow, they
even had me choose from a list of serial numbers, which stock was then
exported daw pala to the US, despite my payment. I later gave the store
a second chance, but the experience was just as ...unusual. Much later,
nakausap ko pa ang isa sa mga owners (albeit the one involved with their
Nevada-based operations) who promised he'd look into how their company
could have charged me fees for services never rendered, and I trust things
have improved.



I guess what I'm trying to say is that

1. Gun stores can have an 'off' day (within reason) and giving them a
second chance can be a decision you'll be glad you made.

2. If you get bad service, it's important to let the store know about it,
and properly, otherwise they can't improve.

Yun lang po... and I still visit Gun Shows whenever it's convenient.
Sometimes I wind up buying stuff. At minimum, I get to keep track of
what's new, what's no longer available, and how prices have changed.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:00   #91
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That's why I like buying from Deenoh. No BS, straight to the point, tapos good price pa regardless kung gun show o hinde.
wala pa akong binili kay deenoh, but I can vouch for this :-)
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Parang cartel!

it is a cartel
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:46   #93
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you can get most anything from deenoh kahit hindi gun show good ang service nya. i bought some a while back and need it to be sent to the province. done with out a hitch.
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it is a cartel
wala bang batas against cartels of any sort?
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wala bang batas against cartels of any sort?
sir di sana nakasuhan na petron, shell, caltex
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sir di sana nakasuhan na petron, shell, caltex
Don't forget monopolies in the power, telecom, and media industries.
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May issues ba ang Sig 1911s or yung unang labas? Ang problema kasi US-made na pistols nila kaya may issues yung iba or lemon.
I had a Sig 1911 (Their version of the CCO) which I foolishly sold...it was a great gun, accurate, reliable, and easy to carry. Just needed to raise funds back then, so binitawan ko...
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The only store selling 7.62x39 is Twin Pines, at P46/rd... really, their AKs would sell much better if the buyers can afford to feed them. Reloadable. But at least the staff are friendly.
Actually Atty, I did some research online and the generally accepted line of thinking regarding 7.62x39 is that they're not supposed to be reloaded.

I've fired their Tactical Edge rounds and have experienced keyholing on target boards, and BikeThief's uncle had more than a few case failures! Firearm was unharmed, but the shell ripped apart and opened up like a scroll.
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get the stuff you want from deenoh, if he doesn't have it ask him if he can get it from you. if not better price nya at least better service makukuha nyo. if there's another store owner here in bogs step up and help the guys here to get a fair shake.
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I had a Sig 1911 (Their version of the CCO) which I foolishly sold...it was a great gun, accurate, reliable, and easy to carry. Just needed to raise funds back then, so binitawan ko...
Nice to hear that their 1911s are good. Where did you get it, locally? I'm still doing some research on Sigs' 1911s and found out that their earlier production GSRs had issues. So far okay naman daw yung current. At the current price of 80K pwede na for an imported 1911.

May nakita akong Nighthawk 1911 around 290K+ yata hehe Susmaryosep bibili na lang ako ng branded SMG! They say it is one of the best together with Les Baer and Ed Brown. Siguro kung less than 200k pwede pa.
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