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Old 10-22-2011, 20:09   #1
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.40 S&W ammo for those who complain about .40 being too "snappy"

I read posts all the time discussing the fact that .40 S&W recoil is uncomfortable for some folks to shoot. Hornady is now making the perfect practice ammo for people who are new to the .40S&W, or need a lower-recoil round to practice with. Its also great for anyone who wants some quality range ammo to have fun with that does not cost an arm and a leg.

Hornady's 180 grain Steel Match traveling at 950fps is some very soft shooting ammo, and accurate to boot. Handguns magazine just had an article on it which prompted me to buy some to try out. I have never run across any .40S&W (that I didn't load myself) that shot any easier in my GLOCK 23. It was very accurate and well manufactured. The cases aren't re-loadable, but then if you reload, you can already load up any velocity you want.

Note: I shoot full power ammo in my .40 and have no real problem with the recoil level. I also own a Glock 20 in 10mm, and shoot full power loads in it. So, please save any macho lectures that are bubbling up inside some of you for another time. Soft shooting ammo can be fun for the shooting public as well.
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Old 10-22-2011, 20:18   #2
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Old 10-22-2011, 20:54   #3
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nice to know, now maybe my girls will shoot it more than the .38's
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Old 10-22-2011, 21:58   #4
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I plan on using it at the GLOCK Shooting Sports Match in Nov, since I won't be able to recover my brass anyway at that indoor range. The sights track really well with that load. The Handguns magazine article chrono'd that round at 911fps, so it may be going a bit slower than what is listed on Hornady's site.

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Old 10-22-2011, 22:56   #5
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What's it roughly priced at?
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Old 10-22-2011, 23:14   #6
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http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...20HAP%2050/Box

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/prod...ucts_id=121073

Way too expensive for steel cased .40 IMO.

I'll stick to WWB at $36 per 100 and I'll have reloadable brass.

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Old 10-23-2011, 00:00   #7
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Russian cases imported by Hornaday.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:22   #8
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The ableammo site listed above by dkf advertises it at 862 fps.
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Old 10-23-2011, 11:38   #9
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I am not recommending it as the cheapest ammo on the market. It isn't. Its not bargain basement FMJ ball ammo. It is loaded with Hornady's HAP competition hollowpoints which are designed to be accurate, and it is reportedly very consistent, dependable ammo.

I'm saying it is excellent for SOME people because it is accurate, soft recoiling, and not overly expensive.
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Old 10-23-2011, 14:01   #10
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I see it for $22 bucks on CTD. Anyplace have it cheaper? Because by the time I pay shipping...ah well the lowered recoil impulse would sure make me smoother in the three gun shoots...I'll have to give it a try...
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Old 10-23-2011, 19:33   #11
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Federal had a nice load in their American Eagle line that was a 165gr bullet doing 980fps. That was a great load to pick up for competitions if you didn't have any homemade loads cooked up. However, about a year ago they pushed the speed up to 1000fps, and it feels like most other 165gr loads now.
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Old 10-23-2011, 19:38   #12
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Just a thought... I don't know what it's actual velocity might be, but the WWB 165 gr. FMJ load in .40 S&W works well for me in my G-22. It does not seem to have as much recoil as normal 180 gr. loads. That's just my impression. You might want o give it a try.
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Old 10-23-2011, 19:42   #13
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Oh, I don't need any. I reload whatever combo I need for whatever task is at hand. I was just letting others know that this new line is nice shooting ammo.
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Old 10-23-2011, 21:22   #14
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Another good one, and much cheaper, is the Tula 180 grain FMJ. It feels almost like a stout 9mm load; at least the box I shot did.
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Old 10-30-2011, 03:47   #15
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+1 on the Tula 180gr. fmj. It is very soft in recoil. Makes the .40 much more pleasant to shoot.
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Old 10-30-2011, 06:57   #16
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I shoot what is equal to my carry ammo. I do not want have to relearn my carry ammo all over again.
If folks thinks the 40 S&W is too snappy then perhaps they should go to a different caliber.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:06   #17
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Tula made my .40 feel like an airsoft gun
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:19   #18
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Now that I think about it, the Tula may have been even more pleasant to shoot than some of the stouter 9mm loads I've shot. Why? Because, although there was a little more muzzle rise, the recoil felt more like a push than a snap.
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Federal had a nice load in their American Eagle line that was a 165gr bullet doing 980fps. That was a great load to pick up for competitions if you didn't have any homemade loads cooked up. However, about a year ago they pushed the speed up to 1000fps, and it feels like most other 165gr loads now.
I bet they pushed the velocity up to 1000fps+ to make major.

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I shoot what is equal to my carry ammo. I do not want have to relearn my carry ammo all over again.
If folks thinks the 40 S&W is too snappy then perhaps they should go to a different caliber.
I do. I did. .45 GAP or ACP!

Why compromise?
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Old 11-05-2011, 20:09   #21
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I shoot what is equal to my carry ammo. I do not want have to relearn my carry ammo all over again.
If folks thinks the 40 S&W is too snappy then perhaps they should go to a different caliber.
Or perhaps they can do whatever they want to with the .40 caliber, including shooting lower recoiling ammo if they enjoy it. Every day is not Zombie apocalypse day guys....
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Old 11-05-2011, 20:26   #22
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If folks thinks the 40 S&W is too snappy then perhaps they should go to a different caliber.
Or get a gym membership.

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Old 11-07-2011, 14:24   #23
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I do. I did. .45 GAP or ACP!

Why compromise?
You're compromising on velocity. Everything has a trade-off.
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You're compromising on velocity. Everything has a trade-off.
No compromise on velocity is required: compare 180-grain .40 defense loads with standard or +p 185-grain .45 ACP.

That said, I prefer 230-grain loads in .45, gladly "trading off" velocity for mass, while keeping bullet diameter nice and big. However, I don't consider that to be a compromise!
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