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Old 02-04-2013, 11:46   #26
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Hmm...the article leaves me confused.

How long was Deputy Cole in pursuit of Asher?
About 2 minutes.

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Were his lights and sirens activated? Did the deputy call in a pursuit?
No and no.

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My biggest question; what did the "protective sweep" entail?
Armed breaking and entering, vandalization, and burglary. There were a raft of other crimes committed as well. My favorite being manufacturing an SBR.

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According to the article is sounds like Asher ignored the deputy's attempt to
initiate a traffic stop. Once home, Asher further ignored the deputy's commands
and entered his home. IMO, the deputy would have been right in pursing the man
into this home, detaining him and securing the scene. Apparently, the protective
sweep went beyond "plain view doctrine" and into the relm of a search
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He didn't attempt to initiate a traffic stop.

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I'll admit I'm stretching here trying to find a reasonable explaination why things turned out the way they did. There jsut isn't enough info...
They had over 5 years to come up with a reasonable explaination for what they did and they couldn't.

I had retired LEOs working security at the Federal court house come up to me and my attorney and say that they had never been asahmed to be a cop before, but after what they had seen, they wanted to apologize on behalf of good cops.

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Old 02-04-2013, 11:50   #27
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Cause as we all know, when the person being charged with a crime or chased is speaking........he's the only one speaking the truth, no?
In this case that was shown to be true over and over and over.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:52   #28
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Not much of an article - if they were arresting the guy, a protective sweep was legal, but it may have gone farther than the law allows. Here, that case would have been an arrest and a protective sweep of the immeidate area around him would be perfectly legal under federal/constitutional law.
Nope. Not anymore. Time for you to do some reading up.

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Coincidentally, I have made exactly the same arrest...of my police chief's 2 nephews...who refused to stop and tried to go in their house after I tried t stop one of them for speeding. I also got sued in federal court, but they both lost blood and had hospital visits and I won the lawsuit. I got sued for beating them, not for the search.
Delightful.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:55   #29
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Sounds like he tried to do a speeding stop, it escalated into a failure to yield and a resisting arrest.
Sounds to me like Cole didn't do a speeding stop, and escalated what should have been a mundane thing into a Federal case.

I told him to arrest me over and over.

Cole has a history of pulling his weapon on children. The youngest I know of was a 7 year old girl. He failed a pscyh exam about 2 years ago, so they pulled him from the road, then a year later they put him back out again. He also murdered an old woman on her porch for "failing to obey my lawful commands" in 2008.

The dude's a ****ing winner any way you slice it.
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Old 02-09-2013, 17:35   #30
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Good to hear. The sad part is that the taxpayer will ultimately have to pay for some dumb cops mistake. What should happen is the Leo's involved should have to pay, or every cop in the department.
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Old 02-10-2013, 17:21   #31
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And you would be wrong. The video contradicts your supposition.
My apologies but I fat fingered that response. What was meant was that you were probably quite unaware due to the kids acting crazy in the car. Withe movies, music, playing etc... It gets crazy in a car load of kids.
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Old 02-11-2013, 17:45   #32
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My apologies but I fat fingered that response. What was meant was that you were probably quite unaware due to the kids acting crazy in the car. Withe movies, music, playing etc... It gets crazy in a car load of kids.
Nope. Just me in the truck. The guy was never behind me. There wasn't anything to not be aware of.

Don't forget, this guy was pulled from the road for failing a psych eveal after assaulting a guy for no rerason in the guy's house. He ain't all there.
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