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Old 08-26-2011, 16:59   #1
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G29 Accuracy vs G20 accuracy

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G29 vs g20, which is more accurate, 25 yards, 50 yards, with red dot , scope etc.....
I gotta make a decision soon, want to hunt vs want to carry the10
much difference in the accuracy dept between the 2?
Sometimes the logic is not what you see in reality when it comes to the G compacts
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Old 08-26-2011, 20:46   #2
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I own a g20sf and Im new to glocks, but I can tell you I became very accurate with it in a very short period of time. Im sorry, I wish I could be of more help, but I dont own a 29, yet...
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Old 08-26-2011, 21:54   #3
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Hi, thank You for the info, I dont one either yet but hope to soon!
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Old 08-26-2011, 22:00   #4
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Hi,
G29 vs g20, which is more accurate, 25 yards, 50 yards, with red dot , scope etc.....
I gotta make a decision soon, want to hunt vs want to carry the10
much difference in the accuracy dept between the 2?
Sometimes the logic is not what you see in reality when it comes to the G compacts
Thank You

If you're going to HUNT a Glock 20 with a 6 inch hunting barrel would be a good thing. Either a Lonewolf aftermarket or a actual Glock factory 6 inch hunting barrel would work. Some States require the 6 inch barrel for hunting.

Both model GLOCKS are very accurate. Good sites, some practice and either weapon would do. You can also install a longer aftermarket barrel on a G29; not quite as long as a standard G20 barrel but real close.

For a backpacking, woods gun my choice would be my Glock 29. For Bore Hunting (etc) I would take my Glock 20 with a 6 inch tube. I really don't see an advantage to a red-dot or scope when hunting Pigs that can outrun my dog.


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Old 08-26-2011, 23:20   #5
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If you're going to HUNT a Glock 20 with a 6 inch hunting barrel would be a good thing. Either a Lonewolf aftermarket or a actual Glock factory 6 inch hunting barrel would work. Some States require the 6 inch barrel for hunting.

Both model GLOCKS are very accurate. Good sites, some practice and either weapon would do. You can also install a longer aftermarket barrel on a G29; not quite as long as a standard G20 barrel but real close.

For a backpacking, woods gun my choice would be my Glock 29. For Bore Hunting (etc) I would take my Glock 20 with a 6 inch tube. I really don't see an advantage to a red-dot or scope when hunting Pigs that can outrun my dog.
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...Both model GLOCKS are very accurate. Good sites, some practice and either weapon would do. You can also install a longer aftermarket barrel on a G29; not quite as long as a standard G20 barrel but real close...

...My backpack special, Glock 29 with stormlake barrel and 15 round mag with sleeve. Really handy package.

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When you have a G-29 "done up" like above, imo you may as well have a G-20 instead and have the slide, (and frame), extend the length of the barrel. The grip's also better on the G-20, with 3 finger grooves, (15 rnd mags are very easily expanded to 17 with an aftermarket floorplate).

I'd like to get a G-29 in the near(ish) future, (for CC, using the factory barrel and 10 rnd mags), but as a more basic and effective 10mm platform, I think the G-20 has the edge.
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Old 08-27-2011, 04:22   #7
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Well Im off to the local gun shops today to see if there are any on hand for a side by side comparison, grip fit ck etc.
Thank You for the Information;

Oceanbob, Nice pistols. I was originally thinking I could get a 29, hunt with it and then use it for carry, but...leaning towards the 20 as a dedicated 10mm hunting pistol. I do beleive from what I have read that the larger G20 may be more accurate than the 29 at longer distances....(not the gun, but the person with the gun accuracy).

I dont have a full size glock. I have large hands so Im thinking either the 20 or 20 sf is fine....I REALLY want a 10mm, cant say why...went through the same thing when I got my 357SIG...

Cant wait to do some reloading and load development for the 10. Also thought about getting the 21 and converting it to 10mm when I wanted to hunt with it, as I have the 45ACP dies already, but from my experience with my G27/G33 and what I have read, conversions have their issues with reliability.

PS where did you get the mag carrier/pack, and do you know of a nice vertical shoulder hoster or chest rig for the 20? SHying away from leather as it will be exposed to the elements often.
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:10   #9
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FWIW, I shot better with the 29 than I did with the 20. Theoretically, the 20 should be more accurate. My groups were tighter with the 29, though. Go figure.
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:25   #10
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I think you will enjoy the Glock 20 and have fun reloading.

I would recommend just getting yourself a used Glock 20 and not spend money on converting a G21. Seriously the $ difference is not much and you would own two complete pistols.

I love my Mag Carriers..I have several (for 10MM, for .45 auto and a mixed carrier with 9mm, .40, 10mm, .45 and .357 SIG that rides forever in my Trunk as a spare grab bag if I'am far from home.

I buy them from Glockstore.com in San Diego. (Online for you is no sales tax)

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Honestly, in stock form, neither will be more accurate than the other, however, it may be EASIER for you to shoot good groups with G20 with stock sights because of the sight radius. With a red-dot, they will be both be equal. There may, of course, be a slight bit more bullet drop at longer ranges with the G29 but if you're shooting long range at game, you will have mapped out the trajectory with either pistol.

I've shot really really nice groups with a G29 / Ghost Rocket / Heinie sights at 25 yards and I've shot a really nice 50y group with a bone stock G20... so, YMMV. Practice will be more important that any other part of the puzzle. Most pistols will outshoot their owners even in stock form.
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Hi, thank You for the input, No large cap mags in my state, 10 rnd.
I will ck out the glock store.
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Assuming everything else is the same, there is absolutely *0* difference in the accuracy between the G29 and G20.

There is a slight advantage to the G20 in that there are scope mounts available for it - and there are no quality mounts available for the G29 (based on my search for them over the last couple of years). Also, the sight radius is longer on the G20 which makes it easier to line up the two sights - this does not matter if you have a jpoint sight mounted and the Jpoint will provide a superior sight picture of the target.

You can mount a J-point sight to the rear sight dovetail of either. Your holster must accommodate this.

Ammo makes a great difference in accuracy and precision (which are two different terms with two different definitions by the way) - and DOES affect both based on its propensity to be tuned to a specific length and type of the barrel.


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G29 vs g20, which is more accurate, 25 yards, 50 yards, with red dot , scope etc.....
I gotta make a decision soon, want to hunt vs want to carry the10
much difference in the accuracy dept between the 2?
Sometimes the logic is not what you see in reality when it comes to the G compacts
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There may, of course, be a slight bit more bullet drop at longer ranges with the G29 but if you're shooting long range at game, you will have mapped out the trajectory with either pistol.
Most pistols will outshoot their owners even in stock form.
I was out shooting some loads on my 10mm Glocks (G20 and G29). With the Chrony already set up, I shot some factory loads using the KelTec Sub2k.

10mm Nosler 180gr HollowP with 9.2gr LongShot:
On Glock 29: Ave 1,100fps std 18.5 Energy 484 ft-lbs 3"group@15yrd
On Glock 20: 1,271fps 14.1 646 ft-lbs 2"group@15yrd

9mm 115 gr Federal on Sub2K: 1431fps std 9.1 Energy 523 ft-lbs
9mm 115gr Georgia Arm Sub2K: 1357 15.1 470
0.5" groups at 20yrds
(a little lizard poked out on top of a wooden ledge at the range, raised its head and flared its red gill, bobbling up and down. It was about 18yrds out, about a foot below my paper target next to the bush. I can't help but picked it up clean with one shot).

What is interesting to note: the long barreled Sub2K (16") is more efficient toward more bullet energy than the short barreled (stock) Glock 29 10mm, where the same 10mm loading rounds did fairly well on the Glock20 6" LWD!

I really like my G29 and will continue to carry it, but I think it is wise to quantitatively understand its limitation and adjust your strategy correspondingly.

Comparing apples & oranges? Yes, but not in the big picture. Although it fits in a laptop case, the Sub2K is not a waistband gun. The G29 is highly concealable, accurate for SD. However, I would recommend a StormLake extended barrel 4.6" to better convert powder energy.

I'd look at it this way. The purpose of my G29 is to buy me time so I can get to my G20.
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I've shot several sub-2" groups at 25 yards, rested, with both of my prior G29's with Ghost Rocket trigger, stock barrel and Heinie Straight Eight night sights. Its accuracy rivaled all of my other full-sized pistols. Honestly, its all about what you're comfortable shooting and have practiced with. Also, I never noticed a single bit of accuracy improvement with aftermarket barrels in Glocks with the exception of one: my gunsmith fitted BarSto on my G20. Wow.

I'm considering a Barsto in my G20SF when I get it.... or, I might just go with a black LW, std length, as my Fusion is my main hunting pistol.
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Hi, thank You for the input, No large cap mags in my state, 10 rnd.
I will ck out the glock store.
I really appreciate the advice!
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Lee...what State do you live in?...

Just wondering. Here in Californistan we can own preban hi caps, no problem and rebuild them as the years go by.

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I've shot several sub-2" groups at 25 yards, rested, with both of my prior G29's with Ghost Rocket trigger, stock barrel and Heinie Straight Eight night sights. Its accuracy rivaled all of my other full-sized pistols. Honestly, its all about what you're comfortable shooting and have practiced with. Also, I never noticed a single bit of accuracy improvement with aftermarket barrels in Glocks with the exception of one: my gunsmith fitted BarSto on my G20. Wow.

I'm considering a Barsto in my G20SF when I get it.... or, I might just go with a black LW, std length, as my Fusion is my main hunting pistol.
Do you have an MGSL installed in your guns? I notice significant improvement after I installed it.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...851754&page=13
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I think you will enjoy the Glock 20 and have fun reloading.

I would recommend just getting yourself a used Glock 20 and not spend money on converting a G21. Seriously the $ difference is not much and you would own two complete pistols.

I love my Mag Carriers..I have several (for 10MM, for .45 auto and a mixed carrier with 9mm, .40, 10mm, .45 and .357 SIG that rides forever in my Trunk as a spare grab bag if I'am far from home.

I buy them from Glockstore.com in San Diego. (Online for you is no sales tax)

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Do you have an MGSL installed in your guns? I notice significant improvement after I installed it.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...851754&page=13
No, however, I'm intrigued....
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Hi, well, I went and did it, My local gunshop is ordering me a G20, through the LEO (Glock Armorers) discount. Not certain how long it will take, but great price, great shop. Thank You for all of the information.
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