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Old 08-14-2011, 19:07   #1
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Shoot better semi rapid than slow?

I did range quals today and the rangemaster was watching shots, said i hit every round in semi rapid but tended to pull shots in slow fire? Any reason for this, i'd honestly expect to be better shooting slow but had all 5s and 4s semi rapid at same distance.
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Old 08-15-2011, 17:05   #2
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Hmm, usually the opp. When guys start shooting faster, they start pushing shots. What you could be doing is anticipating the shot. Where are your misses going?
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Old 08-15-2011, 17:07   #3
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Misses were usually to the right. Some low, some high. All 25 yards on the DAK sig trigger.
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Old 08-15-2011, 18:48   #4
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I did range quals today and the rangemaster was watching shots, said i hit every round in semi rapid but tended to pull shots in slow fire? Any reason for this, i'd honestly expect to be better shooting slow but had all 5s and 4s semi rapid at same distance.
Some shooting pathologies, like flinching, are basically psychological, not technical, and can get worse the more time you have to think between shots. That's why shooting instructors make up drills that force you to think about something else while shooting slowly.

Not sure if that applies to you.
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:58   #5
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This problem seems more pronounced on the DAO SIG than 1911s or my CZ, So i guess the longer trigger pull may giver more time to flinch.
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:23   #6
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All 25 yards on the DAK sig trigger.
There's your problem right there. I had the same issue with the initial DA pull of the 4566 I was issued with my last department. Long, heavy trigger with no feel of when its going to go bang. I did ok shooting fast, but precision slow fire to the standard I was capable of with a DA revovler, 1911 or Glock was out of the question.

Still qualified expert, but I never really warmed up to the trigger.
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:26   #7
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Slow fire is for target practice. Rapid fire is for defensive work.

I'd rather practice rapid fire. Slow fire (unless I'm shooting a .22 or some other dedicated target pistol is a waste of time.
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Old 08-25-2011, 23:15   #8
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Diesel, I had the opportunity to be able to train down south in Az. and take a shotgun course. On the run moving, nothing got away, even when in transitions from shot to slug or visa versa. But put me down in a prone position and ask me to hit a 10" plate at 100 yds...forget about it. My instructor pulled me off in front of the class, told me to chamber 1 round and snap shot an 8" plate at 80 yds on the word "Mark". He called it, I hit it.

My instructor told me that I 'overthink the problem' but when the pressure's on, it's not a problem to hit 10 ring. I've seen that in everything I do, even beyond the defense world. I dunno...maybe it's a good thing.

Hope that helps a little bit, your mileage may vary.

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Old 08-26-2011, 09:30   #9
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I have shot that way all my life. Basically trained for combat, defense, and LE duty and enjoy that type of shooting best. Never was a good, slow fire target shooter. Decent but not good. Seems when I take slow aim I take too long, the pistol moves around, and the shots do too and I think too much-lol. Now give me semi-rapid or rapid fire on a combat course of fire and I am in my zone. Flash sight picture and let the shots rip as soon as the sight picture is acquired and I shoot ragged holes. Bill
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