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Old 06-04-2014, 17:02   #1
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robbed while biking

not me,just found the story.

http://ewn.mobi/news/Local/helmet-ca...2?location=set

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Old 06-04-2014, 17:32   #2
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Dumb criminals didn't notice the 300+$ camera on his head?
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:02   #3
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There were several times during the robbery where the victim may have had sufficient time to pull a gun and open fire. I say may since that is going to depend upon how he would have been carrying and how well he has trained. If he had been open carrying, there is a very good chance the robbery may never have taken place.
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:08   #4
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:20   #5
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If he had been open carrying, there is a very good chance the robbery may never have taken place.
Because, as SGT HATRED said, the robber didn't notice the $300 camera on his head while patting him down, after he stopped, and taking his stuff. A gun on his hip while riding his bike would have clearly made all the difference.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:05   #6
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That's like in Africa. Normal behavior there. People need to carry concealed. That would have ended differently with a trained adversary riding that bike.
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:59   #7
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That's like in Africa. Normal behavior there. People need to carry concealed. That would have ended differently with a trained adversary riding that bike.
Just outside Capetown South Africa - a total s*** hole and one of the most violent places on Earth.

Not sure if being armed would have helped, he was outnumbered 3:1 and its probable that the other two were armed as well, maybe even a gunman or two in the bushes guarding their backs.

The MTB guy was lucky just to stay alive. And the GoPro footage will help catch the thieves.
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Old 06-05-2014, 17:32   #8
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This situation sucks. Guy was running up in an intercept course. Does he need help? What's going on? By the time you were close enough to realize his intentions his gun was out.

Open carrying probably wouldn't have deterred him because from the distance he was running from he may not have even seen that you had a gun till he was already committed to robbing you. You're coming in on a bike too fast for him to shadow you for a bit and size you up, he just went for the next guy he saw basically.

Anyway, this is why you don't ride alone.

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Old 06-05-2014, 20:38   #9
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Cape Town is rough.
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Old 06-05-2014, 21:11   #10
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Because, as SGT HATRED said, the robber didn't notice the $300 camera on his head while patting him down, after he stopped, and taking his stuff. A gun on his hip while riding his bike would have clearly made all the difference.
And that is something we'll never know, isn't it?
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Open carry with a group would have prevented this.
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Old 06-05-2014, 21:26   #12
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Carry Issues

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Old 06-05-2014, 21:45   #13
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I live in Las Vegas. Less than a mile from the Strip and I OC everyday. I ride 2-3 times a week and Metro has never said anything to me.

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Old 06-05-2014, 21:55   #14
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looks like an aware person would have had time to blow their sh-t away.
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Old 06-05-2014, 23:18   #15
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Everyone can win any situation... with 20/20 hindsight.

Not the same thing when it unfolds in real life in real time with no rewind & no do over.

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Old 06-05-2014, 23:52   #16
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The bad guys were looking into the sun. Probably wasn't sure what was on the guys helmet. Probably thought it was something ugly to do with the helmet.
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Old 06-06-2014, 00:25   #17
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Biking alone, in a remote / wilderness area, has a certain risk. Bike in numbers.

Don't bike without equal tools that your enemies may have. In this case, I saw at least one handgun.
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Old 06-06-2014, 00:35   #18
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i agree TBO,fair statement. To me in the clip it appears there was a fair distance between them when the BG came into view. Would not situational awareness be the order of the day? Not to be a cowboy, quite the contrary, but if I see someone approaching me with a weapon , I would assume they mean to harm me. Hindsight is 20/20. I guess growing up in a major east coast city teaches you to be aware of anything within 75 yds.
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:51   #19
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So who in their right mind would not be carrying out in the wilderness. And Africa at that. So much for the bad guys. What about his spot in the food chain. What an idiot.
Sure seemed like a lot of opportunities to pull and shoot to me.
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I live in Las Vegas. Less than a mile from the Strip and I OC everyday. I ride 2-3 times a week and Metro has never said anything to me.

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To be fair, I had to really blow up that picture to see the gun, and that's only because the post indicated the wad one. With that black on black setup, I'll bet most won't notice it, especially while you are moving.
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