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Old 08-14-2011, 03:24   #1
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Gun crimes drop at Virginia bars and restaurants

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2...est-ar-1237278

and after all that bellowing and bellyaching about how VA would have drunken shootouts daily.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:08   #2
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Not surprising.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:16   #3
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http://www.facebook.com/bradycampaign?sk=wall&filter=1

have fun. This is the Brady bunches facebook page. Like it (i know, disgusting) and you can post all you want.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:16   #4
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I'm shocked, shocked to hear this....
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:34   #5
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And all this time I thought having a firearm within 100 feet of an open alcoholic beverage caused everyone in the room to start shooting at each other...
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:56   #6
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http://www.facebook.com/bradycampaign?sk=wall&filter=1

have fun. This is the Brady bunches facebook page. Like it (i know, disgusting) and you can post all you want.

as if just visiting facebook wasn't infuriating enough, let's go read the idiotic posts on the brady page!
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:59   #7
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Darn....who'd a thunked it???
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:04   #8
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Been legal to carry in a bar and drink for years here in Oregon. Has not been a problem, nor has it been a problem in any other state that allows it. Much ado about nothing.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:23   #9
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A pro-gun person visiting the Brady Facebook page is an agonizing exercise in masochism. By the way I think these buffoons are now against the Mini-14, after "protecting" it in the Clinton AWB.
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Old 08-14-2011, 13:02   #10
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The Brady idiots weren't protecting anything. Their stated mission is the complete ban of civilian firearm ownership. The only reason they would have "protected" any firearm from being banned is because it made them look "reasonable" and like they were compromising, to help them get the larger ban passed.

Make no mistake, their ultimate goal is the disarmament of the American people.
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Old 08-14-2011, 13:25   #11
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I am not surprised.
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Old 08-15-2011, 15:40   #12
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Not surprising since there are no bars in Virginia.
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:10   #13
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Not surprising since there are no bars in Virginia.
meaning they are all technically classified as "restaurants"?

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Old 08-18-2011, 09:42   #14
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Wish they would pass that law in Florida. Felt naked having to go to Ybor of all places to see my buddy perform at the Improv and not be able to carry.
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:49   #15
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Makes sense
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It would be nice if NC took note of the result.
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:07   #17
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meaning they are all technically classified as "restaurants"?
This goes back to when liquor by the drink was made legal in Virginia. State law has permitted sale of liquor by the drink only since 1968. The restaurants and entertainment industry lobbied for that change in the 1960's, eliminating the "brown bag" requirement that customers join a "private club" and bring their own bottle to the restaurant in order to enjoy a drink before a meal. A license for onsite consumption requires the establishment to have equipment and capability to serve a meal. Here is a link to the definitions...http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...00+cod+4.1-100
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It would be nice if NC took note of the result.
Va gun law changes are the result of a lot of lobbying and grass roots work by gun owners in the state..Mostly lead by the VCDL.

If you don't like something about your states gun laws you have to work hard to change them.
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IIRC, you still can't drink and carry in VA. All the law allows is to CC in a restaurant that serves alcohol, and you can't be in the bar section. Or did they allow that too...

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Establishments. They're required to serve food along with drinks.

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IIRC, you still can't drink and carry in VA. All the law allows is to CC in a restaurant that serves alcohol, and you can't be in the bar section. Or did they allow that too...
Open carrying, you can drink. Carrying concealed, no. You can sit anywhere you want.
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va gun law changes are the result of a lot of lobbying and grass roots work by gun owners in the state..mostly lead by the vcdl.

If you don't like something about your states gun laws you have to work hard to change them.
amen!!!!!!!!!
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No kidding. Interesting. Thanks for the clarification.
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amen!!!!!!!!!
It took a lot of hard work to get this law changed. We've been fighting for it since va went shall issue in 1995.

I've spent the last several nights putting up 200 signs in support of a very progun candidate in a primary election.

Now is the time to be working hard to get these laws.changed.
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Has not been a big problem in New Hampshire. We do have shootings outside of bars every so often in Manchester which is our largest city.
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Open carrying, you can drink. Carrying concealed, no. You can sit anywhere you want.
I still fail to see the sense in that one.
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