[eleven87]

I'm looking for a Glock 10mm for my wife, because that's what she wants. She wants a Glock, for bear protection more than anything else, and the 10mm is the only stock caliber in a Glock I would even consider for the purpose.
After browsing these forum pages, and others, I've come to the conclusion that I'm looking for a 20SF, 20 Gen4, a 29SF or 29 Gen 4. My only other consideration would be a 30 with a conversion kit, because I am a big .45 fan and I've heard that they are the most accurate of the Glocks.
My questions are as follows:
What are the differences between the SF and Gen 4 frames as far as grip size? I know the Gen 4 is more aggressive, and has interchangeable backstraps...
How does the 29 compare to the 20 for shootability (recoil, recovery etc.) Consider that she is not a rank novice but not exactly a proficient shooter. YET.
Would a 29 with a 4.75" ported barrel be an advantage? I've shot a 20, 21, 17 and 19 but never a subcompact in a Glock, so I don't have much to compare with.
Are ported barrel/slides effective? (G20C; Do they even make a G29C?)
This is going to be her gun, so the 30 with conversion kit is probably not going to happen, at least for her... maybe for me in the future.
Please feel free to give me your opinions and experiences... I haven't had much experience at all with 10mm other than a few range sessions with rental guns.
I'm really more interested in comparisons of these guns and personal experiences... pics welcome...
Also bear in mind that I've already tried to steer her towards other options like a big bore revolver or 12 ga. She wants a Glock. Period. And you can bet it's going to end up with pink on it in some fashion or another...

Thanks!

[JAS104]

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[ShallNotBeInfringed]

does her shooting experience include magnum loads? My wife shoots a 9mm with no complaining, but shooting a 10mm makes her grumble.

[eleven87]

Originally Posted by JAS104

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But does that come in PINK?

Originally Posted by ShallNotBeInfringed

does her shooting experience include magnum loads? My wife shoots a 9mm with no complaining, but shooting a 10mm makes her grumble.

A little, enough to know what she's asking for... but I've told her that if this is the route she wants to go, she will need to get used to the round. I have a 9mm for her to practice with but she's going to have to learn to handle the 10mm. She's ok with that, for now... but it's a very good question.

[ShallNotBeInfringed]

Pink can be done, even on a 10mm Glock

[FloridaGun]

Originally Posted by ShallNotBeInfringed

Pink can be done, even on a 10mm Glock

Sackliridge!

[ctious]

That glock needs some hello kitty ones.

[dizmodeus]

Originally Posted by ShallNotBeInfringed

Pink can be done, even on a 10mm Glock

The hello kitty grips are fine, but that white lettering has got to go.

[JAS104]

Originally Posted by ShallNotBeInfringed

Pink can be done, even on a 10mm Glock

Blasphemy! Lol


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[JimIsland]

The G20 is a beast but very easy to shoot from a recoil standpoint if she can handle the thickness.

[FloridaGun]

I mean, just how the F could you neuter the mighty 10!?! No sane human could be capable of this!

[FloridaGun]

Originally Posted by JimIsland

if she can handle the thickness.

[JAS104]

Originally Posted by FloridaGun

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[BicycleDay43]

Depending on how well your wife can handle larger loads (of ammunition of course), a G29 may be a bit too much for your wife. Perhaps take her to a range near you where the option of renting both a 20 and a 29 is available to you. Happy Glocking.

Sent from the bluegrass state using my LG. Have a GLOCKtastic day!

[eleven87]

Originally Posted by eleven87

But does that come in PINK?

I was referring to this...

Originally Posted by JAS104

[eleven87]

Originally Posted by BicycleDay43

Depending on how well your wife can handle larger loads (of ammunition of course), a G29 may be a bit too much for your wife. Perhaps take her to a range near you where the option of renting both a 20 and a 29 is available to you. Happy Glocking.

Unfortunately, where I live now that's out of the question. the nearest actual range is a 4 hour drive... the nearest range that rents, no idea... I do have a friend that has offered to let her try out his 20SF, but no one I know has a 29.
As far as the other posts, the Hello Kitty theme is definitely out... she wants hot pink, no cartoons.

[ShallNotBeInfringed]

OK, how is this?

[countrygun]

From a husband and a 20SF owner I would simply go for the 20 SF. Just tell her that, if she is so dead-set on a Glock 10mm that it is the only one that makes sense.Tell her the round needs the barrel length otherwise she might as well use a G-22. Make it simple on yourself and let her get used to the G 20.

I am sort of going through this with my wife. she has gotten very competent with her 1911-type .45 and wants to try the 10mm. I am going to let her shoot my Witness and G-22 this week and then convince her, since she likes the 1911, about the RIA 10mm and work it into one or two of those.







(husbanding advice included with shooting advice as a courtesy. No guarantees or warranty provided or implied)

[dm1906]

If you have a woman (significant other, whatever) and she wants to shoot, do whatever you have to do to encourage it. She wants her own gun? Get her one. She wants it pink? Get pink. The absolute WORSE thing that will happen, is you'll have another piece in your collection you don't have to explain, while you're shopping for another she'll like. She wants a 10mm? She gets a 10mm. If she doesn't like it, you have another 10mm pistol you don't have to explain. I don't see any problem with that.

My wife shoots because she "wants" to. She carries, because she wants to. It didn't start out that way. She never objected to my shooting hobby (habit). She married a cop, so it was no surprise to her. One day I said, "you should have your own gun, and shoot with us." She said, OK, sounds like fun." It was all downhill from there. Her pistol isn't pink, her choice (at 4-11 and 100 pounds, you need all the seriousness you can find, her words). All of her accessories are, though. Gloves, muffs, mag loader (UpLula comes in pink, get one), caps and T-shirts (mostly pink camo, of course). ANYTHING to keep her interested. She is enjoying it, and so am I. When you ask, "what do you want to do today?", and her reply is, "let's go shoot", you'll realize there aren't many more sexy things she could say (sexist, maybe, but it is what it is). Her CCW is up for renewal this year, and the time came to sign her up for the course. CA doesn't require a "shooting" course, so 4 hours of classroom is all it takes. Our local instructor recently retired, so I had to go shopping. She had a choice, shoot or not shoot. Her response, "Are you kidding? Shoot!" We're working up to our 3rd decade together. That was sexy.

Now, another take on the "pink" thing. I have occasionally considered "pink" for my carry guns. Imagine being in a situation, having to draw on someone. Chances are, it won't be trivial. You're the BG, and some dude you don't know draws a pistol on you. No surprise, but it will require a response from the BG. Imagine, a pink pistol. THAT's a distraction, which often requires several seconds to process. A pink pistol may not even register as a threat, guard goes down, threat over, by whatever means. Machismo is only relevant to the living. Would I do it? I seriously doubt it, but the concept is worthy of consideration.

[ModGlock17]

Originally Posted by eleven87

Unfortunately, where I live now that's out of the question. the nearest actual range is a 4 hour drive... .

What is your surrounding like? Do you live in bear country? or you just have little bears raiding your trash bins?

I love the 10mm, but I think it's important to understand its limitation. Don't get mother grizzly mad with a 10mm. If a 10mm pierced her inside and she's got 30 sec to live, she can do a lot of damage to you in that 30 sec.

[eleven87]

Originally Posted by ModGlock17

What is your surrounding like? Do you live in bear country? or you just have little bears raiding your trash bins?

I love the 10mm, but I think it's important to understand its limitation. Don't get mother grizzly mad with a 10mm. If a 10mm pierced her inside and she's got 30 sec to live, she can do a lot of damage to you in that 30 sec.

Yes, I live smack in the middle of 375 million acres of bear country... and while I do understand the limitations of 10mm, not to mention my beloved .44 Mag, I also feel that a 10mm in her hands is much more effective than anything else locked in the trunk or even in the closet. If this is what she wants, and this is what it is going to take to get her to carry, then like dm1906 said, I'll do everything in my power to accommodate her.
As far as the 10mm goes, a lot of people are starting to carry the caliber up here in the woods, even some govt. agencies. There are a few good loads available, Buffalo Bore, etc. that give it a pretty good edge. It is not my first choice, but is a good choice. I've lived up here long enough to know the limitations of any caliber against an angry bear, but it is better to have and not need it than to not have it and be lunch. My personal preference would
be that she carried the Marlin 45-70 but that's not going to happen, even if it were pink.
Countrygun's advice is sound, as far as sticking with the 20SF... I don't think she really cares which model she gets, anyways... the 29 idea was mine, thinking in terms of versatility when it comes to carry options... more for going to town than anything.

dm1906, you think like me... I agree 100%. She wants the gun, and has never really expressed much interest in the past, so yes, I'm going to jump all over it and get her exactly what she wants. I never thought I'd buy another one, but she wants a Glock, so I'm buying a Glock. She wants a pink gun, so she gets a pink gun. No questions asked. Except, maybe, "How pink do you want it?"
It definitely is sexy when your wife expresses an interest in the things that you're into.

[UnitBob]

If it doesn't need to be concealed, get the G20SF or 4th Gen G20. You might even consider a 6" barrel for it. That adds a bit of velocity to it.

[eleven87]

Originally Posted by UnitBob

If it doesn't need to be concealed, get the G20SF or 4th Gen G20. You might even consider a 6" barrel for it. That adds a bit of velocity to it.

For bush use it doesn't need to be concealed at all, although I would feel better if she had something she could bring to town with her. Maybe once she gets used to carrying in the woods she'll feel more comfortable carrying in town. At that time I can find her something more appropriate.
Which leads me to this question:
Gen 3 20sf or Gen 4 20?
Do they still make the 20c? Is the ported model worth finding?
My dad's bear gun is a 629 with a 2 3/4" ported barrel, and I do notice a difference shooting it, but is it that noticeable in a 10mm auto?

[calmfab]

Go to town, find a gun dealer and make your wife handle both the 29 and 20. the 20, even in the sf configuration can feel like a "little canon" if your wife has small hands. Even for me, I have pretty large hands, and I feel it's huge.
Physical limitations should first determine which gun is adapted for her.

[ShallNotBeInfringed]

Some of us are familiar with Yankee Marshal on You Tube. He has purchased, then resold a Glock 29, at least 6 times. He buys one, and shoots it, and sells it. Repeat.

Some of us learn from our mistakes, some of us learn from the trials and tribulations of others, and some of us never learn.

Glock 29 Update: Sixth Time's The Charm - YouTube

Glock 29 Update: Sixth Time's The Charm - YouTube