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Old 07-15-2014, 22:02   #1
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Digital Powder Scales

I'd like to get a reliable consistent scale without spending more than about $125.

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Old 07-15-2014, 22:31   #2
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I'd like to get a reliable consistent scale without spending more than about $125.

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You should be able to get either the Dillon or an RCBS (705 or 750 I think) are both at the top of that price point and are good scales.


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Old 07-16-2014, 07:08   #3
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The Dillon Eliminator is, by all accounts, an excellent beam scale. I don't have one...

The Dillon D'Terminator is an excellent digital scale but you need to add about $30 to your budget (plus shipping). I do have the D'Terminator and I use it all the time. It's great!

ETA: The optional protective case for the D'Terminator isn't really optional.

You will also need check weights:
http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSe...=check+weights

The weight(s) that come with the scale are used to calibrate the scale at mid-scale and full scale (or just full scale). Check weights are used to check the scale in the region of interest - a few grains in the case of pistol loads.

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Old 07-16-2014, 10:25   #4
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$119. Brought to you by the same people who make the Dillon Scale is the rumor.

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http://www.cedhk.com/shop/products/C...nic-Scale.html
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Old 07-16-2014, 10:41   #5
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$119. Brought to you by the same people who make the Dillon Scale is the rumor.

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http://www.cedhk.com/shop/products/C...nic-Scale.html
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Important: Due to the wide range of unit weights and capacity, this digital scale is not designed for slow precise powder trickling.


I wouldn't overlook the utility of the wind screen on the Dillon and they seem to have gone out of their way to deal with static issues. True, I don't always use the wind screen (if I can keep air motion down) but it's a nice feature.

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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/145...ProductFinding

This one is generally pretty well reviewed and will fall within your budget.
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Old 07-16-2014, 13:21   #7
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I have a Dillon (D-terminator) that is a few years old, and I highly recommend it. I've never has an issue with function or accuracy/repeatability. I haven't priced them lately, but they should be close to your price point.
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The Dillon, the RCBS, the larger Hornady. I would trust nothing cheaper.
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I wouldn't overlook the utility of the wind screen on the Dillon and they seem to have gone out of their way to deal with static issues. True, I don't always use the wind screen (if I can keep air motion down) but it's a nice feature.

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It will work for trickling. If you look at the gram resolution it has a lot more resolution then needed once it's converted to Grains. BUT, it's not designed for that. It's the same scale as the Dillon inside. Dillon isn't really designed for that either. If you want one to hook up to a trickler buy the RCBS. Not the Dillon or the others.
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Old 07-16-2014, 15:55   #10
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I've had a Hornady LNL bench scale for about 6 months now and its worked great. It does need the 15 minute warm up time Hornady recommends. They also put 3 feet on it so you have to use 2 hands when pushing buttons or you flip it up. I found some rubber tape and made 2 more feet and can calibrate it with one hand now.
If you want cheap I've had a MTM mini digital scale that was $30 from Midway for a couple of years now that has been spot on when compared to a Lyman M5 beam. When it starts to wander just pop in a fresh battery and it's GTG!
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I have the Dillon Terminator now going on about 6 years and find it to be spot on (even when on batteries). Since it's so reliable as checked against my Eliminator every now and then that pretty much just stick with the digital. Go blue, you won't re great it!
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If you want cheap I've had a MTM mini digital scale that was $30 from Midway for a couple of years now that has been spot on when compared to a Lyman M5 beam. When it starts to wander just pop in a fresh battery and it's GTG!
And exactly how will you know when that is?? Unless yo uare checking zero every time you way a charge. No, the cheap scales are crap, should NEVER be trusted for measuring pistol powders. It only takes one mistake with something like Clays or TG to ruin your day.
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And exactly how will you know when that is?? Unless yo uare checking zero every time you way a charge. No, the cheap scales are crap, should NEVER be trusted for measuring pistol powders. It only takes one mistake with something like Clays or TG to ruin your day.
Drop a charge on the pan and the digital readout will drift up a tenth or two and then drift back down, but it is still reading accurately. Check that charge on the beam scale and it weighs what the digital said it did. Put in a new battery and the digital readout stops drifting.
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:58   #15
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rangerhgm "I'd like to get a reliable consistent scale without spending more than about $125."

If your mind is set on a digital scale these guys have listed some very nice models. However if you would like a superb balance beam scale - let me recommend the RCBS 10-10 scale.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/415...ProductFinding

I know it's a bit more money then you posted but it is one of those scale you buy once and pass down to your kids.

Might be worth a look.
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rangerhgm "I'd like to get a reliable consistent scale without spending more than about $125."

If your mind is set on a digital scale these guys have listed some very nice models. However if you would like a superb balance beam scale - let me recommend the RCBS 10-10 scale.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/415...ProductFinding

I know it's a bit more money then you posted but it is one of those scale you buy once and pass down to your kids.

Might be worth a look.
I couldn't agree more. I broke one of the pivots off the beam on my 1010, totally my fault, RCBS sent me a whole new scale.

Always reliable, never a doubt what my charge/bullet/case weighs...

I have owned quite a few digital scales, a few a lot more expensive than your budget and they all went south sooner or later, so I don't fool around with them anymore.

If I was dead set on getting a digital scale, I would only get either a Dillon or RCBS. Enough credible people on these boards think enough of them to use them that it may be worth a try, but only if you are dead set on a digital.

For me, I am RCBS 1010 for the duration.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:12   #17
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I already had a cheap (about $20) digital scale and now also have the Lee bar scale that came with my Lee press.

I know my cheap digital isn't always accurate because, while setting up my press, I've been using the same case to measure the powder dropped using both the the powder disks and the charge bar. When I use the tare function to weigh the empty case, one time it shows 68.8 and the next time it will show 68.2 (or .4)

I've used both of them, but decided I wanted a "good" digital is because you can get a measurement much quicker.
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I prefer the digital over the beam scale. I have a cheap beam scale that came with my first RCBS kit ('82 or so) but it seems so slow and clubby compared to the digital. OTOH, as I trickle charges, I can see the arm move. That's actually better than waiting for a digit to change and then wondering whether you are right at the weight or as much as a round-off error from some other weight. But I still prefer the digital.

I wouldn't trust ANY scale without verifying it with check weights.

Fred pointed out that he doesn't favor any of the 'cheap' digital scales and I don't favor any scale that wasn't designed for loading. I don't know anything about Hornady's offerings but they are probably quite good. I have the RCBS ChargeMaster (dispenser plus digital scale) and the Dillon D'Terminator. I trust both of them. I wouldn't be happy with anything else.

You just can't afford a screw-up with fast pistol powders. Maybe there's a little more slack for rifle loads but I still try to get +- 0.1gr even with 50gr charges. For rifle loads, I dispense the charge with the ChargeMaster and then verify it with the D'Terminator. I'm pretty serious about consistent loads. For pistol, not so much. I check the powder measure before I start and a couple of rounds later. Other than that, I depend on the consistency of the Dillon powder measure. That and I don't do max loads.

Someone else mentioned above that scales are forever. That's true! Presses may come and go as volume and caliber requirements change. The scale remains forever. It might as well be a good one.

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If I had to do it again, would go with the BrianEnos.com Pro-digital Scale. 50 gram capacity (770 grains) and is accurate to .02 grains! It carries a LIFETIME manufactures warranty.
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My Dillon Terminator (made by CED) is accurate to .01 grains. I check it regularly with a set of Lyman check weights.
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