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Old 07-04-2011, 09:19   #1
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LNL-AP Out of Commission

Just went to celebrate Independence Day with my little guy by reloading some 45acp on the LNL.

After the first couple of rounds this happened

Reloading

Looks like I'm going to have to pack her up and test out the Hornady repair policy. I'm going to have them look at the primer system as well as I've never been able to get it to reliably seat primers.

For those of you who have sent one back I imagine I'll need a RMA# from Hornady and curious to know what you sent it back in.

Happy 4th Gentlemen

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Old 07-04-2011, 09:47   #2
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Will since I do not own a LNL what happened? The only thing I see maybe is the threads are stripped?
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:49   #3
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I hope you have better luck with the priming system then steve did.
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:54   #4
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Just curious how tight did you torque the shell plate? Personally I torque it tight as I can to reduce the flex. I also took the spring out from the spent primer tube to reduce resistance.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:23   #5
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Will since I do not own a LNL what happened? The only thing I see maybe is the threads are stripped?
Indexing key/nub broke. You can see it just left of the shell plate threads.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:36   #6
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Look at the bottom of the picture in the middle. There is like a round circle. Look at 6 to 11 in that circle it looks like maybe a stress crack? Not related to what you are talking about.
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Old 07-04-2011, 13:29   #7
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Stop limp-wristing it.
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Old 07-04-2011, 13:47   #8
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No need to send it in! It is a user replaceable part!

Have Hornady give you the allen wrench and the special tool that protects the brass primer reject tube. These tools come with the ezject upgrade kit. Noted in the video.

I removed mine when I upgraded the ezject assembly. It just sits loose on a keyed shaft.

Here is a video of how to get the part out.

Remove
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr4Ans_bpU4

and put it back together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pE2u...eature=related

Take the time to clean and grease everything before assembly.

Edit: The video is on upgrading to the ezject shell plate but does show the removal of your broken part in the process.
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Just went to celebrate Independence Day with my little guy by reloading some 45acp on the LNL.

After the first couple of rounds this happened

Reloading

Looks like I'm going to have to pack her up and test out the Hornady repair policy. I'm going to have them look at the primer system as well as I've never been able to get it to reliably seat primers.

For those of you who have sent one back I imagine I'll need a RMA# from Hornady and curious to know what you sent it back in.

Happy 4th Gentlemen

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Good luck with it. I sent mine back in a spare box I had laying around. They will send you a RMA and a shipping label so it should be free. The second time I sent it back in the original box and they gave me my money back. That was awesome. That broken part is easy to repair and doesn't need to have the press returned to fix it. Priming is another issue. Not sure they know how to fix it anyway. My 650 seats primers with no drama and half the effort.
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Old 07-04-2011, 15:11   #10
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Look at the bottom of the picture in the middle. There is like a round circle. Look at 6 to 11 in that circle it looks like maybe a stress crack? Not related to what you are talking about.
Thanks Bob. I was so focused on the indexing key I missed that.
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:54   #11
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Called Hornady this morning and got an RMA number. Packaged and will ship today UPS ground as they suggested. They pick up the costs of shipping it back to me.
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I hope you have better luck with the priming system then steve did.
I gave up on trying to get it to work long ago. They told me to send it in but I was going to wait on something else broke before I went to the trouble of sending it in. I don't mind using my Lee hand primer actually to prime. I feel far more confident in using it than the LNL to prime.

I did ask for them to test out the priming system for me to see if it was just me.
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I gave up on trying to get it to work long ago. They told me to send it in but I was going to wait on something else broke before I went to the trouble of sending it in. I don't mind using my Lee hand primer actually to prime. I feel far more confident in using it than the LNL to prime.

I did ask for them to test out the priming system for me to see if it was just me.
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I gave up on trying to get it to work long ago. They told me to send it in but I was going to wait on something else broke before I went to the trouble of sending it in. I don't mind using my Lee hand primer actually to prime. I feel far more confident in using it than the LNL to prime.

I did ask for them to test out the priming system for me to see if it was just me.
Iím like Steve, there is no way I put up with that. Whatís the use of having a progress press if you have to hand prime?
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Old 07-05-2011, 14:28   #15
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Iím like Steve, there is no way I put up with that. Whatís the use of having a progress press if you have to hand prime?
I actually don't mind having to hand prime. When I took into account having to load tubes it almost was a wash to me. I can prime quickly with the Lee Hand Primer. Here is my sequence:

Station 1 Deprime/Resize
Station 2 Expand Die

Run through all my cases

Prime with Lee Hand Primer

Station 4 Powder Throw
Station 5 Bullet Seat

Run through the cases

Finished.

Works for me as I usually only get a half an hour or so at a time to use the press and I always lock up primers/powder when I'm done.
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I actually don't mind having to hand prime. When I took into account having to load tubes it almost was a wash to me. I can prime quickly with the Lee Hand Primer. Here is my sequence:

Station 1 Deprime/Resize
Station 2 Expand Die

Run through all my cases

Prime with Lee Hand Primer

Station 4 Powder Throw
Station 5 Bullet Seat

Run through the cases

Finished.

Works for me as I usually only get a half an hour or so at a time to use the press and I always lock up primers/powder when I'm done.
I can fill a DILLON primer tube pretty quickly. WAY quicker then pulling the handle twice for every round. Hornady's primer tubes suck. Get the Dillon or take a razor blade to the hornady and loosen it up a lot. It's way to tight.
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I actually don't mind having to hand prime. When I took into account having to load tubes it almost was a wash to me. I can prime quickly with the Lee Hand Primer.
This stuff kills me. Its is just as good as the other brand as long as I hand prime. I am not going to make any excuses for any manufacture because I bought there stuff. Just the opposite. You sell me a lemon and I am going to tell anyone who will listen that your piece of junk is bad and they should not buy it.
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Old 07-05-2011, 18:58   #18
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It was a lemon. Hornady offered to fix it but he didnt want to send it back just yet. How it that Hornady's fault? Not all LnLs suffer from priming issues.
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This stuff kills me. Its is just as good as the other brand as long as I hand prime. I am not going to make any excuses for any manufacture because I bought there stuff. Just the opposite. You sell me a lemon and I am going to tell anyone who will listen that your piece of junk is bad and they should not buy it.
It seems some peoples expectations when spending their money on choosing and buying a press is not as high as others. I would love for Horandy to come to a conclusion to fixing their QC issues, particularly the priming system. I'd like to get one as a secondary press for oddball calibers down the road. I won't lie my main reason being the price point. I want to know it works out the box though.
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Old 07-05-2011, 20:06   #20
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This stuff kills me. Its is just as good as the other brand as long as I hand prime. I am not going to make any excuses for any manufacture because I bought there stuff. Just the opposite. You sell me a lemon and I am going to tell anyone who will listen that your piece of junk is bad and they should not buy it.
Red I've never stated anywhere that the LNL-AP is better than a Dillon of the same specs. At the time I bought it because of the price point, free bullets, and economical caliber changes.

There are many on this board whose LNL's prime flawlessly. Mine does not. I'm willing to accept that my problems may not involve the press at all but the operator trying to use it - that would be me. I'm not like many on here who think because their reloads FTF that they had 'bad primers' or 'a bad bullet' or 'a bad gun'. 99% of the time if something doesn't go right in reloading it is probably user error.

That being said I've never bashed Hornady nor did I intend this to become a Hornady LNL bashing thread. I would not argue with anyone that said a Dillon is a better press. It should be - it costs more.

The press is on it's merry way to Nebraska. If those guys in the shop can get the thing to prime consistently then great - I have a chance to as well. If they don't I'm not going to get my **** in a knot over it. I bought it knowing its limitations and that some have had trouble with the priming system.

I'm glad I bought the press. It has brought me joy in the time I have used it. What else was I going to buy for that price point a Loadmaster or Pro1000?
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Old 07-05-2011, 20:15   #21
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I can't even count how many uneventful rounds I've made with my LNL-AP. No priming issues whatsoever.
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I truly hope you get it back working properly. The LnL priming setup is pretty basic. Not a lot for you to screw up. I wouldn't blame yourself. Only tip I have heard that is not fairly intuitive is unscrewing the blast shield a little.
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I can't even count how many uneventful rounds I've made with my LNL-AP. No priming issues whatsoever.
Ditto that.
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Hate to hear this for you. Sucks. I'm sure they'll make it right.

I've loaded at least 12k rounds with no issue. Well, after the first twenty or so. I bent the primer shuttle cam by forcing it. Hornady sent one even after I told them what happened. Keep it clean, keep it lubed and keep it tight.

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Hate to hear this for you. Sucks. I'm sure they'll make it right.

I've loaded at least 12k rounds with no issue. Well, after the first twenty or so. I bent the primer shuttle cam by forcing it. Hornady sent one even after I told them what happened. Keep it clean, keep it lubed and keep it tight.
I've bent a cam too and they were great in sending me a new one. They also have sent new primer shuttles, springs both shell plate and primer, shims for dies that would pop out and anything else I've had a problem with.
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