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07-17-2011, 15:41
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Darkangel, what are the specs on that DT beartooth load?
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07-17-2011, 15:57
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I do believe it was a 200gr hardcast Wide Flat Nose gas-checked bullet
1300 fps , 750 ft/lbs
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07-17-2011, 15:57
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Originally Posted by brisk21
I wouldn't mind a Delta Elite, but Id have to have some work done to it. I don't like the way it comes in stock form. Id need a short trigger, beavertail grip safety, different hammer, grips and sights. After all that Id have some serious money involved. Not to mention ammo. Glock 20 is a much more practical decision for me, but either would be a great choice.
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Great point, that's why I have a G20, but I eventually want to get a 1911 in 10mm. Either a DE with the kind of work you mentioned, or a Wilson TE.
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07-17-2011, 16:51
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Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr
I do believe it was a 200gr hardcast Wide Flat Nose gas-checked bullet
1300 fps , 750 ft/lbs
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Sounds like a nice load. Would have to get an aftermarket barrel to fire that one out of the G20.
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07-17-2011, 16:58
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Yes,.....an aftermarket barrel like a Bar-Sto would be outstansing.
I do have a 1988 Delta,......the Double Taps shoot very well.
PS.
Beartooth was a particular bulled Double Tap used for a while.
They no longer use it, they are using the WFNGC now. Must be a hard cast made to their specs
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07-17-2011, 17:05
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I will throw in my .02, which may not even be worth that. I have had my G20 since somewhere around 1998. I have shot everything Black Talons to Blazers and every friend's "recipe" in between. the gun has never failed me with any 10mm load, and I lost track of round count around the 5-6k mark. I haven't shot it much since turning to the 1911, but part of the appeal to me at least was the fact that I could get conversion barrels for it and extend the platform to shoot both .357 sig and .40 sw. I also added an AA .22 conversion kit, and in a very small package, I have four calibers to play with. I will add that I haven't found a .40 round yet that is very reliable, but it reduces the cost of range sessions and I don't/wouldn't carry .40 in it anyway. no issues at all with the other two conversions. all that said, I love the 10mm and would love an STI 2011 one day. I don't think you can make a mistake either way, and I can't bring myself to recommend the G20 over the Delta - especially only having real experience on one side of the argument.
good luck. post pics!
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07-17-2011, 17:50
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I will throw in my .02, which may not even be worth that. I have had my G20 since somewhere around 1998. I have shot everything Black Talons to Blazers and every friend's "recipe" in between. the gun has never failed me with any 10mm load, and I lost track of round count around the 5-6k mark. I haven't shot it much since turning to the 1911, but part of the appeal to me at least was the fact that I could get conversion barrels for it and extend the platform to shoot both .357 sig and .40 sw. I also added an AA .22 conversion kit, and in a very small package, I have four calibers to play with. I will add that I haven't found a .40 round yet that is very reliable, but it reduces the cost of range sessions and I don't/wouldn't carry .40 in it anyway. no issues at all with the other two conversions. all that said, I love the 10mm and would love an STI 2011 one day. I don't think you can make a mistake either way, and I can't bring myself to recommend the G20 over the Delta - especially only having real experience on one side of the argument.
good luck. post pics!
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Good post. I haven't tried any conversion barrels in my G20 yet. I've been threatening to get a 9x25 Dillon barrel for it for years.  I have quite a bit of experience with the Delta Elite. My buddy had a Stainless Gold Cup Match Delta Elite, and it jammed on alot of different rounds. I'm sure it could've been made to be better, with a good smiff's work, but it wasn't as reliable as my G20 by ANY stretch. That being said, I'm still gonna get a 1911 in 10mm and maybe even a Delta Elite, someday in the future.
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07-17-2011, 21:41
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I only have experience with Glock 20SF. Never had aby problems and it likes the hot rounds. If I need it I like the 15 rounds available and another 15 in an extra mag.
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07-18-2011, 17:56
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Quote:
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Darkangel, what are the specs on that DT beartooth load?
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I'm not Darkangel, .... but DT offers two heavy WFNGC loads, a 200gn & 230gn.
Here's the link to the specs on the 230gn 10mm WFNGC ammo:
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...roducts_id=158
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07-18-2011, 19:37
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What kind of inherent accuracy can be expected with both pistols? Would the Colt and the Glock be considered equals accuracy wise?
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07-18-2011, 19:45
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What kind of inherent accuracy can be expected with both pistols? Would the Colt and the Glock be considered equals accuracy wise?
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In my experience with both, the Delta Elite outshoots the G20. In my hands anyway.
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07-18-2011, 21:22
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i have both. use an extra power recoil spring (at least 26 pounds) with the CDE if youre using real 10mm loads. mine has a nice BTGS so it is quite comfortable to shoot versus the previous stock GS.
my G20 is so damn good all i did was upgrade the recoil spring/rod assy to a 22 pounder.
if "lookin at" was the game my CDE would win, if just for craps and giggles on the range it aint bad either. plus its a Colt and all the pride and "status" of owning one.....like a Harley Davidson thing.....but....
if i had to depend on just one for defense it would be my G20. it handles real 10mm loads better than my CDE.
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07-19-2011, 15:10
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Thanks guys..
agtman, that 230 grain looks like a hard hitter.
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07-19-2011, 17:52
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Glock 20 is the superior weapon.
Delta Elite looks much cooler.
It's all about your priorities.
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07-19-2011, 22:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carguy2244
Glock 20 is the superior weapon.
Delta Elite looks much cooler.
It's all about your priorities.
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I never understand it when people post stupid statements like this.
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07-19-2011, 22:33
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Originally Posted by MD357
I never understand it when people post stupid statements like this.
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pick any of the listed conditions MD..
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07-20-2011, 19:21
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All I can say is that I have Colt Delta Elite and it is an absolute nail driver. I don't shoot it a lot, but I always hit what i'm pointing at.
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07-29-2011, 13:28
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Good luck finding a new Delta Elite....I've been checking for a few months and haven't been able to find one a newly manufactured one. There was one on GunBroker, and after chacking the serial # it was manufactured in 2009, and I stopped bidding after it reached $1,200.00
Buy what you like and what you can afford, because hopefully, your life will never rely on which one you purchased...
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07-29-2011, 13:30
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I just picked up the DE I ordered through my LGS 5 months ago. I bought one NIB off GB as well.
They do seem difficult to find sometimes.
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07-29-2011, 13:59
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I have been thinking a delta would be hard to find. Ah well, this might make my decision a whole lot easier.
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07-29-2011, 20:34
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Originally Posted by Cerebrus
pick any of the listed conditions MD..

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Nice self portrait.
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07-29-2011, 20:37
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I never understand it when people post stupid statements like this.
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You don't have the knowledge to evaluate this statement, so why comment and make yourself look foolish?
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07-29-2011, 20:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carguy2244
Glock 20 is the superior weapon.
Delta Elite looks much cooler.
It's all about your priorities.
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I agree. My G20 has been 100% with any and everything you can put in it. And that's coming from a Delta Elite and 1911 fan. My buddies Delta Elite Gold Cup Match was a jam-o-mattic. Accurate, but unreliable.
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I never understand it when people post stupid statements like this.
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Ditto. Come on MD, you can do better than that.
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07-30-2011, 05:23
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Guys, this has been a great thread and I appreciate all the insight and helpful comments.
Now do me a favor, let's keep the insults and bickering down to a minimum.
Thanks,
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07-30-2011, 06:33
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Guys, this has been a great thread and I appreciate all the insight and helpful comments.
Now do me a favor, let's keep the insults and bickering down to a minimum.
Thanks,
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I haven't seen any insults, but, bickering is gonna happen. We all have our own opinions.
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