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Old 07-25-2012, 15:37   #301
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Excellent choice.

If you decide you want some magpul bits, head to shadez of gray tactical. He is a LEO here and has excellent prices.

You can sell the colt carry handle, handguards, grip and stock and fund magpul replacements almost 1 for 1. You may even make money.

I highly recommend the Magpul MS3 sling with ASAP. I also highly recommend a MOE handguard and scout mount for the light. Cheapest best option for you.
I saw your mention of him earlier so I've bookmarked his site. He has great prices on Magpul and that's where I'll be getting all of my accessories from. I'm gonna go with the MOE handguards, MS3 and Scount mount right away. Maybe put some more coin into magazines and ammo and shoot the piss out of it. I need to find a beginner rifle course nearby and sign up. I'm pretty squared away on the in's and out's of the platform through the dept, but as I said before, twice a year we shoot about 15 rounds and that's it. As others have said, given the events of late, I'd like to be a little better prepared, even though that stuff doesn't happen here...
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Old 07-25-2012, 15:43   #302
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If you have to wait for a tragedy such as this, it's too late. If your Department doesn't have a rifle program, lobby for one. If your Department does have one, by all means, do what it takes to get on the cadre, then train, train, train...
My department has pool guns, one in each patrol car (Bushy's). Our "program" is lame. At least we have them. Being the new guy, I don't have a lot of horsepower but I'm determined to change our policy and get a little more interest in what's going on in the real world.

We are surrounded on all 4 sides by farms and bush. We frequently are out in the sticks with the county and/or the state folks as backup is slim pickens (except in-town). With 17 square miles of rural township, inhabited by unknowns, sovereigns, and of course, the whack-jobs that ARE known to us, it's just a matter of time before someone's fuse pops and the dung will hit the fan. With our weather thus far, the election and a hotbed of local political issues bubbling away, I'm shocked it hasn't yet...
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Old 07-25-2012, 15:43   #303
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I'll be buying my first AR in the next month. Several good choices out there. Looking at the SW mp15 and a colt or bushmaster.


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I'm sure you already know this, but AR's can be extremely addicting. Be prepared to get bit by the black rifle bug.

I plan on building my next one. I'm also wanting to buy one from Bravo Co., I hear they make an outstanding rifle.

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Old 07-25-2012, 15:46   #304
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Is that the sling that came with the rifle?

BTW: thanks for wearing clean socks

I'm waiting to see which magazines mine will ship with. Guess it could be either. The picture on the webpage is with GI (is that correct terminology?) mags but I'm actually hoping for P-Mags.
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Is that the sling that came with the rifle?

BTW: thanks for wearing clean socks

I'm waiting to see which magazines mine will ship with. Guess it could be either. The picture on the webpage is with GI (is that correct terminology?) mags but I'm actually hoping for P-Mags.
Thanks; I actually just noticed the socks in the pic in the Patrol Rifle thread, lol.

Yes, that's the sling that came with it; standard GI type. The only thing I did was take some black electrical tape to it and secure the loose ends and the big loop that ended up in the front. The rear sling swivel is a quick-release type that came with it as well. The only thing I've added so far is a Magpul MOE grip (earlier today; no pics yet). I may add a rail, and probably a flip-up rear sight and Aimpoint PRO at some later point, though.
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Old 07-25-2012, 21:37   #306
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What say you all about "double star" brand. A couple of guys had them and it was suggested to me by them. For some nagging reason I think I've read on here that they are POS?


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Old 07-25-2012, 22:03   #307
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What say you all about "double star" brand. A couple of guys had them and it was suggested to me by them. For some nagging reason I think I've read on here that they are POS?


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My opinion is that they are "acceptable" for what they are...a low end, low price "kit" gun.

Buy a Colt.
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Old 07-25-2012, 22:05   #308
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What say you all about "double star" brand. A couple of guys had them and it was suggested to me by them. For some nagging reason I think I've read on here that they are POS?


If you will be deploying this rifle in the field as LE, I would suggest you stick with one of the big companies. Reliability is important if you want something more than just a hobby gun.

I know times are tight, but seriously, you can get a decent deal on a Colt 6920, a built S&W M&P even less.
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Never had a double star. But, none of the "go fast" tac trainers have ever mentioned them in a positive way to my knowledge.

The "high speed low drag" guys with a lot of experience are always recommending Colt, LMT, and a few others for a reason. A lot of hard use has shown them to hold up really well.

Today was day three of carbine instructor school. It was hot as hell and then rained and we kept going. The gun geek in me started watching the failures. Most were lubrication related, and none of them were "tier one" guns. My CLP dripping Colt ran all day, on some strings of fire where the handguards were uncomfortable to hold from the heat.

Anyways, I am rambling. I advise anyone reading the thread and contemplating what brand to buy to save a little longer and buy a good gun like a Colt. The price is not too bad now, and the quality on mine is top notch. I have had an RRA and a S&W and while both are decent, they are not Colts. Buy once, cry once. That little extra feature or attention to detail could save your bacon someday.




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Old 07-25-2012, 22:23   #310
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Thanks to Obama, I'm buying another patrol rifle. Probably another 6920 or maybe a Rainier Arms custom build or RUC. Maybe a Noveske.

Thanks Barry! I'll blame it on you when my wife gets the bill. Tax deductable to boot!
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Oh yeah, so here's mine-- a Colt LE6920 with an Eotech XPS 3-0 and 3x FTS magnifier.

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Oh yeah, so here's mine-- a Colt LE6920 with an Eotech XPS 3-0 and 3x FTS magnifier.

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I think my eyeballs just orgasmed...

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Old 07-26-2012, 05:48   #313
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Buy once, cry once. That little extra feature or attention to detail could save your bacon someday.
I'll echo these words. I'm a rifle newbie and I wanted it done right the first time. I can't remember when prices were this low...okay, as a teen, I worked at a gun store when new H-Bars were selling for $799...but that was a while ago!

Colts can be had for less than a grand, shipped...




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Old 07-26-2012, 07:24   #314
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My department has military surplus rifles issued to about 55 of 260 officers. I just went through the very good school and was issued an older Colt. It is old enough it doesn't have a forward assist. Despite the age it shoots very well.

I have tried for years to get a policy allowing carrying of personally owned rifles. Sadly, the department won't allow it. I understand that anyone who wants to carry their own rifle would need to attend the 3 day school and show the weapon too be quality made. They really have no great reason why we can't carry our own rifles. I guess the older Colt is better than nothing.
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I have tried for years to get a policy allowing carrying of personally owned rifles. Sadly, the department won't allow it. I understand that anyone who wants to carry their own rifle would need to attend the 3 day school and show the weapon too be quality made. They really have no great reason why we can't carry our own rifles. I guess the older Colt is better than nothing.
That is LOP thinking and the kind of thinking that gets cops killed.

It's damn near criminal in this day and age that we have CLEOs so clueless about deployment of rifles (department issued or personally owned) as an appropriate tool for the job, better than shotguns in nearly all cases.
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Is this a patrol rifle or a personally owned rifle.
I'm surprised a department would use the Sporter model.
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Is this a patrol rifle or a personally owned rifle.
I'm surprised a department would use the Sporter model.
There is no difference between the "Sporter" SP6920 and the "Law Enforcement Carbine" LE6920. In fact, I don't believe that the LE6920 is being produced any more. Significantly different than, say, the M&P15 "Sport".
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There is no difference between the "Sporter" SP6920 and the "Law Enforcement Carbine" LE6920. In fact, I don't believe that the LE6920 is being produced any more. Significantly different than, say, the M&P15 "Sport".
I thought the difference was in the barrel used in the Sporter. Although a reliable and fun gun, great for the novice and recreational shooter, the Sporter's barrel heats up quickly and not designed for a heavy fire fight that a LEO's weapon may find itself in.

I may be totally wrong, but that is why I was wondering if this was a personal pictured weapon or an LEO's patrol weapon. As this threads title is "patrol rifle" I assumed there were all issued patrol rifles being shown.
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It would take an insane amount of rounds to fry a barrel out, far beyond the average 3 magazines I see most places require. I have 12 mags with me most of the time, and even if I rock and roll, I'm not sure that would do it.


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I thought the difference was in the barrel used in the Sporter. Although a reliable and fun gun, great for the novice and recreational shooter, the Sporter's barrel heats up quickly and not designed for a heavy fire fight that a LEO's weapon may find itself in.

I may be totally wrong, but that is why I was wondering if this was a personal pictured weapon or an LEO's patrol weapon. As this threads title is "patrol rifle" I assumed there were all issued patrol rifles being shown.
That's a personal weapon. However, the only difference between the LE6920 and SP6920 are the roll marks. Barrels, bolt carrier groups, everything else is identical.
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