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Old 07-07-2011, 08:18   #26
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I've been CC'ing Glocks in CBST's for years and have never had an issue. I thought the Fail Zero stuff was supposed to be extremely corrosion resistant. Kinda surprised at that rust issue. Interested to see what they say and do about it.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:40   #27
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Just about everytime I pull my Glocks (23 & 27) from my MTac recently the whole inside of the slide is normally covered with moisture (making no contact with my skin so it must be condensation) and not a hint of rust. That's just crazy. I thought the EXO would be even more durable???
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:53   #28
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FailZero Limited Lifetime Warranty

The FailZero warranty covers products of UCT Arms for failure of the EXOTM surface against chipping, peelingor wear through that prevents the weapon from functioning or for failure of the part. The warranty is of unlimited duration. UCT will recoat the product free of charge including return shipping costs. This warranty does not cover customer abuse at any time. This express limited warranty is the only warranty on this product. This product is sold "as is" and has no implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose. There are no warranties which extend beyond the description on the face hereof.
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Old 07-07-2011, 13:30   #29
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EXO's don't come from glock, they are glocks treated by another company after initial sale. Not that the OP did, but every time I see someone talking about buying an EXO, I wonder if they know they're not buying an "EXO", they're buying a glock with an aftermarket finish. Any time you grind down and refinish, you run a risk. I think the EXO finish looks great. I certainly hope this is an isolated incident.
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Old 07-07-2011, 13:55   #30
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Not being an butthole here by asking... other than looks, what is the purpose of the EXO finish if it makes the Glock finish less durable? I know nothing about EXO so I really am asking a serious question.
I've got Glocks w/ the standard black finish that haven't been nearly as babied as you baby yours, and none of them have done that.

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Old 07-07-2011, 15:07   #31
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That is truly awful. Definitely get it refinished, hopefully they will do the right thing and take care of you. I've never had a Tenifer finished Glock or HE finished HK pistol form rust like that, however...

I use and personally highly recommend Eezox for corrosion protection. For as much as I promote this stuff you would think I had stock in the company. I do not, it just flat out works!

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Old 07-07-2011, 19:52   #32
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I've taken a spill in the Pacific Ocean, only able to clean my G27 the next day w/no rust.
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Old 07-07-2011, 19:59   #33
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The only reason why I actually bought the EXO model was b/c the sales rep at the gun store said that the EXO model was double coated and more durable than the standard model. I was under the impression that EXO finish was nickel boron coated over Glock's standard tenifer finish thus making it more durable. I guess I was wrong... can anyone else verify the validity of this belief?
I will have to try to find it again but there was a interview with one of the guys from failzero and that is exactly what he had said as well. The barrels are done and then somewhat polished. I wear my G19 EXO everyday and it shows no signs at all of any rust.
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Old 07-07-2011, 20:49   #34
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That nickel boron coating should be unable to rust, and the Tenifer treated steel underneath should be really damned resistant. Given those two factors, it seems more likely that something else has gotten onto, or into, the finish on that pistol, and has rusted. Some kind of contaminant got in there during finishing. No doubt they'll refinish without argument.
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:27   #35
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A couple of possibilities:

1) During the surface prep process, metals (beads or steel wool) were used, and the residue from the prep process is actually rusting. I have seen this with both metal oxide beads used to bead blast stainless guns and people using carbon steel wool to polish stainless guns. In both cases, rust resulted.

2) Steel or iron from something else has been embedded into the holster, got transferred to the slide, and is rusting.

I would try to remove the corrosion with a product like G96 or Kroil. I would probably try Kroil as it would let me know if the finish has been perforated as it would get under the finish and remove it from the slide.

If the gun needs to be refinished, I would send it to Robar for NP3. My NP3-finished G29 got caught in a thundershower while being carried in a Sparks VM-2. I was soaked to the skin, carried it the summer heat after the rain, and did not get a chance to remove the gun from the holster for about eight hours. Gun was fine and showed no evidence of the deluge.
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:43   #36
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get some corrosion x

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to make things clear right off of the bat:

1.) i absolutely love my g19 exo and bought it brand new on 18 jun 11
2.) i have put approx 600 rounds through it and thoroughly clean it obsessively after each use
3.) it is my primary off-duty carry weapon that goes with me everywhere i go in my super awesome, super comfortable crossbreed super tuck
4.) when i pulled it out yesterday, this is what i found

It looks like rust but i have no idea how it could be possible. I'm at a loss for words and i'm not sure what i should do as far as trying to clean it w/o possibly making it worse. (i am a hoppe's #9 guy).

Anyone experience anything like this specifically on the slide of their exo version pistol? Comments, suggestion???

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Old 07-13-2011, 17:36   #37
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OP, have you heard anything back about what caused this or if someone will take responsibility for fixing it?
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Old 07-23-2011, 16:47   #38
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Old 07-23-2011, 16:54   #39
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I live in Chicago and always wear a t-shirt between my body and the holster to keep it safe and dry from sweat. It's been in the upper 80's here the last few days but not humid at all. A soft toothbrush is a what I was thinking too but I'm not sure if the Hoppes would be considered too abrasive. Any suggestions on a very non-abrasive cleaner???
How do you CCW in IL, let alone Chicago?!?!?!

ETA: NVM, just saw the phrase "off duty" in the OP. Guess some are above the law.
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Old 07-23-2011, 17:00   #40
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How do you CCW in IL, let alone Chicago?!?!?!

ETA: NVM, just saw the phrase "off duty" in the OP. Guess some are above the law.
More then likely there a police officer
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Old 07-23-2011, 17:33   #41
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Wow. That sucks!!!!
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Old 07-23-2011, 18:09   #42
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Tenifer is not a finish, it's the metal treatment underneath the parkerized outer finish.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:34   #43
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OP, have you heard anything back about what caused this or if someone will take responsibility for fixing it?

Sorry for not updating this sooner. I contacted Fail Zero right after I got all of the amazing responses from the GT Community!!! I shared with them all of the things you guys said on this post and also sent them a link as proof. They told me that they were extremely sorry and "every once in a while, there is a bad batch". No further explanation but I got the vibe that I wasn't the only person to have contacted them about this issue.

Long story short, they said to send it back and they would be more than happy to rectify the problem (free of charge ). All in all, very pleased with their exceptional customer service!

In my opinion, still an awesome firearm and although it was slightly disappointing at first, Fail Zero coating it still a plus in my book!
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:39   #44
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How do you CCW in IL, let alone Chicago?!?!?!

ETA: NVM, just saw the phrase "off duty" in the OP. Guess some are above the law.

I am a Law Enforcement Officer but never considered "above the law"... Just a normal human being just like everyone else on this forum with a job that allows me to use a firearm as one of my very many tools needed to complete my everyday job tasks such as protecting and serving people in the state of Illinois!
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Old 07-24-2011, 12:00   #45
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Old 07-24-2011, 12:33   #46
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How do you CCW in IL, let alone Chicago?!?!?!

ETA: NVM, just saw the phrase "off duty" in the OP. Guess some are above the law.
How is it "above the law"? What he is doing is legal. He is acting WITHIN the law.
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Old 09-22-2011, 22:49   #47
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Sorry for not updating this sooner. I contacted Fail Zero right after I got all of the amazing responses from the GT Community!!! I shared with them all of the things you guys said on this post and also sent them a link as proof. They told me that they were extremely sorry and "every once in a while, there is a bad batch". No further explanation but I got the vibe that I wasn't the only person to have contacted them about this issue.

Long story short, they said to send it back and they would be more than happy to rectify the problem (free of charge ). All in all, very pleased with their exceptional customer service!

In my opinion, still an awesome firearm and although it was slightly disappointing at first, Fail Zero coating it still a plus in my book!
So did you send it back and get it refinished? Any rust now? I ask because my next purchase will be an exo/np3/robar/blahblah G19 and I plan on carrying it in a supertuck.
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Old 09-22-2011, 23:15   #48
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Tenifer is a metal treatment underneath the outer finish. Just did some quick Googling and it seems like the EXO finish is supposed to be over the Tenifer treatment. Maybe not the case?
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:24   #49
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I purchased a new EXO G19 and had the rear of the slide tarnish. It happened when I wore the pistol close to my body in a IWB holster that did not have a protective flap. In fact you had to be careful when reholstering or you would get pinched. I contacted EXO and they said send the slide in and they would redo it free of charge. The only thing it would cost is shipping one way. Looks perfect again and I have since switched holsters. No problems so far. I am very pleased with their exceptional customer service!
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:52   #50
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Hmm not had any issues with mine and everyday I'm not on duty its on my hip very odd sir, but ya the EXO finish is over the Tenifer
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