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Old 06-28-2011, 11:43   #41
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Sherman was/still is a hero for bringing that war to a swift end, we need a Sherman in A-stan
So are you saying that you support Terrorism?
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:45   #42
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No. Now days we call it total war. You do what you have to do to win.
So are you saying that you support Terrorism?
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:51   #43
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So are you saying that you support Terrorism?


LOL! Wow. That's got to be the biggest stretch I've ever seen on this forum, and there have been some mighty impressive ones.

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Old 06-28-2011, 11:53   #44
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Terrorism:
The use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

Deliberately targeting or disregarding the safety of non-combatants (civilians)...

That is exactly what Lincoln and his Generals did to the South.

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Nope. Sounds like a pretty good definition of terrorism to me.

It was just a very humorous stretch in my opinion.
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:02   #46
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So are you saying that you support Terrorism?
You are definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed. Read it again. If you still have difficulty with my post ask your guidance counselor to explain it to you.

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And tell us what the south did to Lawrence

shoe's on the other foot now lol
If I could got back in time I'd issue Shermans troupes each a bic lighter
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War is hell, truly. "Terrorism" is just a touchy emotional term some use to make one side look better or worse than the other, when both sides will do whatever it takes to win. The word has no meaning to me.
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:20   #49
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Terrorism:
The use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

Deliberately targeting or disregarding the safety of non-combatants (civilians)...

That is exactly what Lincoln and his Generals did to the South.

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Possessing slaves was terrorism too.
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War is hell, truly. "Terrorism" is just a touchy emotional term some use to make one side look better or worse than the other, when both sides will do whatever it takes to win. The word has no meaning to me.
Wow, thanks for telling all of us how you feel about the US servicemen who have fought and died fighting the war against "Terrorism" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Possessing slaves was terrorism too.
So you are saying that the fact that the Northern/Union States had slavery for 89 years, including after the Civil War was over makes them terrorists.

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So you are saying that the fact that the Northern/Union States had slavery for 89 years, including after the Civil War was over makes them terrorists.
The slave traders and owners used techniques that were inhuman.

Very few of the almost 4 million slaves in the US, remained slaves after the CW.

The slavery apologists, such as yourself, always want to point to exceptions as a means to distract folks from the horrors of the southern slavery institution.

What Sherman did to the South pales in comparison to the atrocities committed in the South regarding slaves, not to mention Confederates like Bill Anderson's deeds.
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:59   #53
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Terrorism:
The use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

Deliberately targeting or disregarding the safety of non-combatants (civilians)...

That is exactly what Lincoln and his Generals did to the South.

Any questions?
Morgan's raiders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan's_Raid

strike fear in the civilian population of several Northern states

raiders' propensity for procuring personal goods from local stores and houses

Yea, sounds like terrorism to me.
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Old 06-28-2011, 13:03   #54
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Wow, thanks for telling all of us how you feel about the US servicemen who have fought and died fighting the war against "Terrorism" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
As one of those servicemen, you're welcome
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Wow, thanks for telling all of us how you feel about the US servicemen who have fought and died fighting the war against "Terrorism" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
After you accuse all of the North of being terrorists. Hypocrite.
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Old 06-28-2011, 13:09   #56
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The slave traders and owners used techniques that were inhuman.
The USA had slavery for 89 years.

The Confederate States of America had slavery for 4 years.

Not one slave ever came to the US on a Confederate ship.

They all came here on USA ships and European countries ships.

Many people, even so called 'historians', like to say that the Civil War ended slavery.

After the war was over there was still slavery in the Union/Northern states.

Owning slaves was legal and protected by the United States Supreme Court... Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

Abraham Lincoln married into a prominent slave owning family (Todds).

Lincoln's own family were slave owners (Mordecai Lincoln).

Lincoln, as a lawyer, went to court and argued to have a runaway female slave, and her children, returned to their slave owner. (Matson slave case).

Union General Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner.
Union General Don Carlos Buell was a slave owner.

Martin Van Buren, the 8th President of the US, from New York, was a slave owner.

William Penn, famous Pennsylvanian was a slave owner.

Benjamin Franklin from Pennsylvania was a slave owner and slave trader.

Hero of the American Revolution, John Hancock from Massachusetts, was a slave owner and slave trader.

There was slavery in the North for 200 years, starting when they were colonies and lasting until after the Civil War was over.

Why didn't the Union states free their slaves before they invaded the South?
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Wow, thanks for telling all of us how you feel about the US servicemen who have fought and died fighting the war against "Terrorism" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It is a poorly named war.

Beyond that, I think we are going after the people that need killing.
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As one of those servicemen, you're welcome
Thank you for your service.

I'm sure you would have fought for the Confederacy against the Northern invasion of tyranny.

No other time in our history has the US armed forces fought against freedom and independence.
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This thread really did turn into the slavery debate... someone said it would, and I thought "no thats silly, that doesn't have anything to do with the article". Turns out I was wrong :/

Natty, my point is that "terrorism" is just a propaganda term. All combat is pretty terrorizing, no matter the conflict or the reasons for it.
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