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Old 06-28-2011, 07:04   #21
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and the occasional heart attack among overweight baby boomers who are trying, despite their huge girths and hardened arteries, to portray fit, young soldiers.
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:10   #22
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I dislike the tone and language of the article. Because the author is tired of the civil war, he is detracting reenactors? I don't really understand his overall point here. Reenactors are doing the leg work of teaching the average American about the civil war. I am fresh out of school (kind of) and I can tell you that students learn nothing from class. Going to reenactments and talking to the guys is how people learn. Some of what the author said is just plain incorrect. I've been reenacting for about 13 years in 2 states with probably 5 different units, confederate and union, and there have never been lotteries or any pre-planning of "who dies first" or when or how. I've also never heard a reenacter try to correct someone by saying they are a "living historian". I've heard people use that term before, but no reenactor I have ever met would be against being called a "reenactor". Also I dont know what spectators have "paid a hefty fee" to gain entry, but every reenactment I've been to has been on public land.

I also dislike how the author brings up slavery. Maybe he forgets that free blacks serving in the confederate army were paid the same as whites, and that blacks in the union army were paid 1/3 the salary of whites and that the famous "buffalo soldiers" weren't paid at all. Or that the north had slavery until the 13th amendment AFTER the war was over.

Like most authors about most things, this guy needs to get his facts straight. Also he should appreciate the efforts of those who share his passion for history and who put their time and effort into this hobby, which includes educating people. This guy gets paid to talk to scholars about things they probably already know on some level. Reenactors are volunteers who take time and money away from their lives to talk to average joe blow from the street about the Civil War.

This article is an opinionated joke.
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Outstanding post!

The author of that article is, like most professional journalists, ill informed (at BEST) about what he wrote about.
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Even worse are irrelevant writers who reenact journalism and fail miserably at it.
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:14   #23
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:17   #24
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I think reenactors are harmless and can serve a good purpose. That is, until they start trying to justify slavery by pointing out that some northern states had them, or how well some Blacks were treated in the South.
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:18   #25
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Yeah. I just read about a living history wild west re-enactment where one of the participants decided to use live ammo. Shot some tourists.

How's that for realism?
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:44   #26
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Yeah. I just read about a living history wild west re-enactment where one of the participants decided to use live ammo. Shot some tourists.

How's that for realism?
So you are against reenactments because someone got stupid?

I guess we should take away the guns from everyone who CCWs because there have been more than a few ADs.

And I guess we should stop all gun shows because two idiots were able to fire not one but TWO rounds in a gun show a couple weeks ago.

And I guess we should stop cops from having guns because of the stupidity down in New Orleans.
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:30   #27
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I dislike the tone and language of the article. Because the author is tired of the civil war, he is detracting reenactors? I don't really understand his overall point here. Reenactors are doing the leg work of teaching the average American about the civil war. I am fresh out of school (kind of) and I can tell you that students learn nothing from class. Going to reenactments and talking to the guys is how people learn. Some of what the author said is just plain incorrect. I've been reenacting for about 13 years in 2 states with probably 5 different units, confederate and union, and there have never been lotteries or any pre-planning of "who dies first" or when or how. I've also never heard a reenacter try to correct someone by saying they are a "living historian". I've heard people use that term before, but no reenactor I have ever met would be against being called a "reenactor". Also I dont know what spectators have "paid a hefty fee" to gain entry, but every reenactment I've been to has been on public land.

I also dislike how the author brings up slavery. Maybe he forgets that free blacks serving in the confederate army were paid the same as whites, and that blacks in the union army were paid 1/3 the salary of whites and that the famous "buffalo soldiers" weren't paid at all. Or that the north had slavery until the 13th amendment AFTER the war was over.

Like most authors about most things, this guy needs to get his facts straight. Also he should appreciate the efforts of those who share his passion for history and who put their time and effort into this hobby, which includes educating people. This guy gets paid to talk to scholars about things they probably already know on some level. Reenactors are volunteers who take time and money away from their lives to talk to average joe blow from the street about the Civil War.

This article is an opinionated joke.
I totally agree. I could only get a little over half way through reading the article before I gave up on it. Seems like meeting the author would be a real downer.
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:38   #28
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Outstanding post!

The author of that article is, like most professional journalists, ill informed (at BEST) about what he wrote about.
Actually the author isn't a professional journalist, he is a professor of Civil War History at Western Kentucky University.


Since he is nothing more than an ivory tower academic it makes sense that he talks out of his *** and belittles regular folk LOL.
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I was a hardcore reenactor, our reenactments were never public events, always done on pvt land no spectators Our uniforms were exact replicas museum grade, not like mainstream reenactors
to get into the reenactment you better be wearing all the correct stuff they will search you down to your underwear which better be hand sewn period correct
it's a whole different animal then the reenactments the public sees
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:41   #30
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:59   #31
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Well if everything you guys know about the Civil War you learn from reenactments then you are in serious trouble. Actually I don't know why folks are so concerned about slavery after all, according to Michelle Bachmann:
"But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States."
So obviously there was no slavery then! If you don't agree with history, just rewrite it! Problem solved!
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:19   #32
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So where do the Yankees reenact Sherman's army going through the South?

Burning down barns, houses, towns, entire cities. Waging war upon civilians and kidnapping women, pillaging, looting, stealing everything they could get their hands on and destroying the rest.

This is what helped win Lincoln's war.

Now days we call it Terrorism.
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:19   #33
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I dislike the tone and language of the article. Because the author is tired of the civil war, he is detracting reenactors?
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Denigrating others because the author doesn't share their interests is bs.

I agree with all the above posts.

As I said in an earlier post, it seems there's an awful lot of folks now a days that apparently feel just because they don't like something.....they are sent from on high with a duty to ensure no one else does it either.

How come it, that when one person of a particular slant is against something, it must be banned/done away with........ for the "good of us all"?
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:21   #34
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Burning down barns, houses, towns, entire cities. Waging war upon civilians and kidnapping women, pillaging, looting, stealing everything they could get their hands on and destroying the rest.
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So where do the Yankees reenact Sherman's army going through the South?


This is what helped win Lincoln's war.

Now days we call it Terrorism.
No. Now days we call it total war. You do what you have to do to win.
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So where do the Yankees reenact Sherman's army going through the South?

Burning down barns, houses, towns, entire cities. Waging war upon civilians and kidnapping women, pillaging, looting, stealing everything they could get their hands on and destroying the rest.

This is what helped win Lincoln's war.

Now days we call it Terrorism.
Sherman was/still is a hero for bringing that war to a swift end, we need a Sherman in A-stan
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So where do the Yankees reenact Sherman's army going through the South?

Burning down barns, houses, towns, entire cities. Waging war upon civilians and kidnapping women, pillaging, looting, stealing everything they could get their hands on and destroying the rest.

This is what helped win Lincoln's war.

Now days we call it Terrorism.
Do you ever have a positive thought? Or do you spend every waking hour mourning the demise of the CSA?
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Sherman was/still is a hero for bringing that war to a swift end, we need a Sherman in A-stan
How could you even apply the concept of Total War in A-stan?
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Do you ever have a positive thought? Or do you spend every waking hour mourning the demise of the CSA?
So are you saying that you support Terrorism?
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