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06-24-2011, 17:11
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MOΛΩN ΛABÉ
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deal or no deal? AIMPOINT magnifiers - what do you think about this sale
I just saw this today in a utube video. Im thinking of grabbing one, Ive been considering it for some time now. Just wondered what you guys thought about it. I checked out the link it is 50% off and free shipping and a few other goodies he says. KZ Scorpion Pen or something, what ever that is.. lol
Is the twist mount good to go, thumbs up, thumbs down??
Here is the link and the video -
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cross posted thread, here and arf just to get more opinions, thanks
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06-24-2011, 19:05
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It works, but there's a reason LaRue makes a pivot mount.
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06-24-2011, 19:56
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MOΛΩN ΛABÉ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMurphy
It works, but there's a reason LaRue makes a pivot mount.
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you talking about the flip to the side mount? Id like to hear your thoughts/reasons. Seems like it would flop around
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06-24-2011, 20:18
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One downside of a magnifer with a red dot is not only the target enlarged the dot is too. A larger dot obscures more of the target.
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06-24-2011, 22:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reb 56
One downside of a magnifer with a red dot is not only the target enlarged the dot is too. A larger dot obscures more of the target.
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Not entirely true. My g23 eotech magnifier is 3.25x but the eotech red dot still stays at 1 moa. The outside ring apears a little larger but the dot itself stays just a little tiny speck in the view.
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06-24-2011, 22:30
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MOΛΩN ΛABÉ
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I just ordered one - so we shall see..
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06-25-2011, 05:35
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Head Sheepdog
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Pivot mount is spring loaded and cam locked. There's no flopping involved.
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06-25-2011, 08:10
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Do it for the Scorpion Pen!!!
J/K... and the roll mount is far superior to the twist mount.
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06-25-2011, 08:21
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Great, if you have a handy place to stash an expensive piece of glass. I have the pouch taped to my sling at the moment, but it doesn't feel right.
I'll be calling LaRue eventually. The flip to side mount I have on another weapon works fine.
I wouldn't have bought the twist mount if I'd had a chance to handle it first.
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06-25-2011, 09:03
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AAAMAD
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They both have their uses.
If you're going to use NVG's a removable is probably for you.
If you're not, the swing away magnifiers are the heat.
All in your need.
Personally, if I was dropping that kind of cash, I'd just step up and buy the one I like the best, because even at 50% off, if I decide I want the other one later, I'm going to end up spending more in the long run.
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06-25-2011, 16:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reb 56
One downside of a magnifer with a red dot is not only the target enlarged the dot is too. A larger dot obscures more of the target.
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This might confuse some people. Since the dot and target are both magnified, the dot covers the same amount of the target with and without the magnifier.
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06-25-2011, 21:27
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It would be hard for someone who wants a quality magnifier to pass up on this one at 50% off. Aimpoints glass is excellent.
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06-26-2011, 06:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AK_Stick
They both have their uses.
If you're going to use NVG's a removable is probably for you.
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Aaaaaactually, if you're talking about the twist mount, then what appears to be "removable" would leave you with the rail grabber left behind, taking up space, and preventing you from mounting a PVS-14 weapons mount. (unless you have an allen key)
The roll mount IS quick detach like all Larue mounts, leaving nothing behind on your rail.
The roll mount is superior to the twist mount in every way.
I run mine on an FAL carbine too.
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06-26-2011, 06:09
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AAAMAD
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I was talking removing it, so you could get your worn NVG's behind the optic.
But you have a very good point.
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06-26-2011, 07:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AK_Stick
I was talking removing it, so you could get your worn NVG's behind the optic.
But you have a very good point.
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You can't stack an optic, a twist bracket, and a PVS-14 weapons mount on an upper.
You can pop the latch and swing the lever on a roll mount though.
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06-26-2011, 09:52
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AAAMAD
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I meant taking being able to remove the magnifier, so you could get a set of NVG's worn on your head, or helmet behind the optic. Not mounting your NVG's behind your optic.
I wear helmet mounted dual tubes, so if I were choosing a magnifier, I would want something that came completely off, because I don't know if a swing mount would go far enough over to clear my dual tube set up.
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06-26-2011, 11:00
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The pivot mount boths pivots and is QD, so it works either way. You can have the magnifier off the gun in about 3-4 seconds completely, or just pivot it.
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06-26-2011, 11:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AK_Stick
so you could get a set of NVG's worn on your head, or helmet behind the optic.
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Oh... that's not ideal at all.
The PVS-14 mount is only good for the guard tower, and a PITA at that. Really, you need a PEQ-2A or PEQ-15 to effectively use NODs unless you're going to stay in one place.
Back to the topic, there is no reason the twist mount should even exist.
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06-26-2011, 12:06
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AAAMAD
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I concur, however, even in the .mil not everyone who has NVG's has access to PEQ's on their MTOE.
We've got some of the most high speed NVG's available, but we're not issued a single PEQ/PAQ. Absolutely retarded.
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06-26-2011, 13:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AK_Stick
I concur, however, even in the .mil not everyone who has NVG's has access to PEQ's on their MTOE.
We've got some of the most high speed NVG's available, but we're not issued a single PEQ/PAQ. Absolutely retarded.
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1) Your S4 sucks. I could (past tense) make limitless AN/PAQ-4Cs appear anywhere in a few weeks. PEQ-2As in theater are easy b/c TPE warehouses have been exploding since the RDOF and everyone DXed for PEQ-15s in OIF-VIII.
2) You're not likely to ever have to use one anyway. Sucks, but it's the truth.
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06-26-2011, 19:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LUNG-G19
I just saw this today in a utube video. Im thinking of grabbing one, Ive been considering it for some time now. Just wondered what you guys thought about it. I checked out the link it is 50% off and free shipping and a few other goodies he says. KZ Scorpion Pen or something, what ever that is.. lol
Is the twist mount good to go, thumbs up, thumbs down??
Here is the link and the video -
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Either setup will require storage space on your rig if dismounted from the rifle, but flip-to-side can remain mounted but out of the sighting plane until needed, and change of position is instantaneous.
Don't know from what you're starting, or your budget, but another great alternative - also from ****** - is the EOTech XPS2 holosight *and* 3X magnifier with flip-mount for $904. That's the setup I have, and it just flat works.
Thomas
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06-27-2011, 12:24
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MOΛΩN ΛABÉ
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got the tracking info today - should be here soon
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06-28-2011, 09:50
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Not a big ****** fan but that does look like a pretty good deal. For the paper killers out there the twist mount looks like a pretty good option. If you do not need the 3x just take it off and leave it with your gear. When you are ready for distance put it back on.
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06-28-2011, 10:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LUNG-G19
you talking about the flip to the side mount? Id like to hear your thoughts/reasons. Seems like it would flop around
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Clearly you have no experience with LaRue mounts.....
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06-28-2011, 22:43
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MOΛΩN ΛABÉ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captains1911
Clearly you have no experience with LaRue mounts.....
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Clearly your post has nothing to contribute to this thread.. Thanks for the well thought out clarification. I wanted to know why he thought LaRue made a pivot mount. I expected him to come back with a profit comment. And clearly his post, just as yours was a "hey idiot" comment anyway.. Like people are suppose to just wake up in the morning with the tactical knowledge of parts that apparently you have been blessed with.
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