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Old 05-22-2011, 16:29   #26
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Obama was looking serious speaking before this influential Jewish lobby group. He knew he wants their supprt when election cometh. The man is postioning himself to be the two term Black president, quite smart.... that of course will depend if the US Jews take the bait.
You meant black-muslim... Didn't you?
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Old 05-22-2011, 16:55   #27
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Old 05-22-2011, 16:55   #28
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...Z6SlSqq0#at=19

This kinda explains the situation very succinctly.

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Old 05-22-2011, 17:04   #29
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Obama needs to stay out of Israels business.
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Old 05-22-2011, 17:05   #30
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Obama plans to revert the US to the original 13 colonies borders.
A friendly suggestion from a long time ally concerning the US problem with illegal immigration:

http://bigpeace.com/dfriedman/2011/0...-1845-borders/
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Old 05-22-2011, 17:08   #31
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Geez glock_19guy1983, take that down. That is the kind of post that can get you a visit and get this forum shut down.
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Pres Obama just emphasized hard before the AIPAC audience this will be the lasting peace everyone should work for. If he does achieve this, his second term might be sealed . The man is a genius , a notch above Pres Clinton.
Yeah, and it not half a day day passed before the Israeli Prime Minister (I can't spell his last name right without looking it up) called Hillary Clinton up and had a heated conversation with her. I'll bet the gist of it was "no effin' way" in diplomatic terms followed by "has he completely wigged out?" Obama had his final answer to that before the PM even entered the country. It ain't going to happen.

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Old 05-22-2011, 17:19   #33
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I don't get why the Israelis should give up on inch of ground. The Palestinians started the war with the intent of destroying Israel, and then recruited the help of many other Arab nations, and then had their asses handed to them. Sounds to me like sour grapes.

Sorry to say, but it'd be akin to handing back the Pacific SW to Mexico because it used to belong to them... but even then, this would be more likely, as we started that war.

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The TOS specifically prohibits you from calling his a lush, an idiot, a mouthbreather, a rabble rouser; in possession of an IQ approaching the maximum number of days in a month.

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Oops -- given what you just said, perhaps I should edit my comment where I suggest that the sort of person to whom you might be referring is dumber than dog dirt...?


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Geez glock_19guy1983, take that down. That is the kind of post that can get you a visit and get this forum shut down.
..... Yeah i forgot about the secret service harrassing that kid over a face book post. Its a shame that the 1st amendment no longer applies to political oppinions...unless you are a democrat anyways.
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..... Yeah i forgot about the secret service harrassing that kid over a face book post. Its a shame that the 1st amendment no longer applies to political oppinions...unless you are a democrat anyways.
Lets be honest, no matter how you feel about someone, the 1st has never covered threats.
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Lets be honest, no matter how you feel about someone, the 1st has never covered threats.
wasnt a threat. I simply said the israelis need to tell barry to stay out of their business. He is not looking to their best interests. He was and I believe still is a muslim. His people want to destroy Israel.
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DVD (Don't vote Democrat) But no one listens and we have this sillyness every few administrations. Sadly, American Jews vote liberalism over loyalty to Israel EVERY TIME. I am not a Jew but I would pick up a rifle and stand with them if they were facing the world alone. God made them some serious promises, and they are STILL "the apple of God's eye". This old Confederate says we had better STOP stabbing them in the back (regardless of who holds the Whitehouse) and deal with their enemies as we should have done decades ago.

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wasnt a threat. I simply said the israelis need to tell barry to stay out of their business. He is not looking to their best interests. He was and I believe still is a muslim. His people want to destroy Israel.
I read it. It could be considered a threat. Because you say it isnt might not be enough to stop unpleasant consequences.

You simply dont wish harm on the POTUS. Even by proxy.
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Zogby Poll... after this BS speach:

75% of American Jews ... Will vote for Barry in 2012.

You figure...

It is a paradox.

The vast majority of American Jew are liberals.
Most liberal in actually take a dim view of democracy.
Most liberals view Biblical events as a myth.
Therefore the Jewish homeland is also a myth.

American Jews will vote for 'The One' again to demonstrate
to thew rest of us how they have thrown off the chains of
racism, bigotry and close mindedness.

They are willing to sacrifice the only democratic state in the
middle east, their religious homeland just to prove it.

One could say this is the ultimate expression of a Self-Loathing Jew.
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Zogby Poll... after this BS speach:

75% of American Jews ... Will vote for Barry in 2012.

You figure...
I don't believe this one bit. I believe Zogby has Arab blood in him.
Oh yes, some will say what has that got to do with the price of eggs.
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It is a paradox.

The vast majority of American Jew are liberals.
Most liberal in actually take a dim view of democracy.
Most liberals view Biblical events as a myth.
Therefore the Jewish homeland is also a myth.

American Jews will vote for 'The One' again to demonstrate
to thew rest of us how they have thrown off the chains of
racism, bigotry and close mindedness.

They are willing to sacrifice the only democratic state in the
middle east, their religious homeland just to prove it.

One could say this is the ultimate expression of a Self-Loathing Jew.
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I understand you are trying to figure it out but you make some pretty far fetched leaps.

If you want some real simple (and broad) reasons why (mostly secular) Jews vote the way they do, liberal.

1. It is a habit. There was a time, not that long ago, the "Democrats" did a lot of things seen as good. "Liberal" used to mean a social issue far more than the insane socialistic economic issue it has morphed into. Most of us would vote for the likes of a JFK today (he is more "conservative" than a lot of the RINOs we have)

2. Just like the "left" has been (seen as) taken over by some outlandish economic policy folks, the "Right" has been (seen as) taken over by some outlandish moralising fundamental Christians. Do you think that would be very appealing to Jews?


So, you have a Left that is for liberal social policy (which a lot of Jews, and all other kinds of people like) and is for some downright communistic economic policies (which a lot of people, even Jews dont like.)

And you have a Right that is for some reasonable economic policies (that a lot of people, including Jews do like) and some anachronistic desire to have moralistic legislation, often Christian centered. (which a lot of Jews, and all kinds of other people DONT like. )

So, just like so many people here bich about....(Libertarian) they would love some fiscal conservatism and social liberalism. Be tight with the money and let me be free. Seriously, a lot of us like the sound of that.

So, when it comes time to vote, a lot of us hold our noses and vote Republican. Well guess what, a lot of Jews hold their noses and vote Democrat. Considering all the Jewish people have been through, I dont blame them for wanting to ensure social liberalism.

It is not that hard to understand. It is just not the result many of us would like.

It should also be noted, that as a trend, ( a slow one but a trend all the same) Jews are voting more conservative and Religious Jews (very few of them) tend to trend conservative as a whole.
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Most liberal in actually take a dim view of democracy.
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Just as a technical note....most people, if they really understood what a democracy is (we are not one and the founders whole mission was to make sure we were NOT one) they would take a dim view of it as well.

There is an old expression that sums it up far better than I can. They say Benjamin Franklin said it but that is contested.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
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I'd be pretty happy if we had zero interaction with anyone in the region, including Israel. I don't give a damn about their borders, not my business. I don't care if Israel eradicates their neighbors, or vice versa. Tardbama should worry about more important things.

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. It is a habit. There was a time, not that long ago, the "Democrats" did a lot of things seen as good.
I really cant buy that. There was a time not that long ago when almost all southern white males voted democrat too. We broke that habit pretty quickly.
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I really cant buy that. There was a time not that long ago when almost all southern white males voted democrat too. We broke that habit pretty quickly.
Not true at all. You are missing something called a "demographic shift."

For one, plenty of "white males" still vote democrat....and, it is pretty much still the same kinds of "white males" (farmers, labor, union workers...) So you didnt break any habit. What did happen is "white males" started to shift from "Farmers, Labor, union workers..." to more white collar work, which tends to vote more conservative.
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Not true at all. You are missing something called a "demographic shift."

For one, plenty of "white males" still vote democrat....and, it is pretty much still the same kinds of "white males" (farmers, labor, union workers...) So you didnt break any habit. What did happen is "white males" started to shift from "Farmers, Labor, union workers..." to more white collar work, which tends to vote more conservative.
I cant speak for other areas of the south but for my little corner of heaven it is Mostly sweet potato farmers and cattle ranchers. There is very little industry here. What is here is non union. I grew up raising cattle and watching my dad vote republican. Most of my friends are either farmers or blue collar workers. Most everyone is a sportsman here and they ALL vote conservative on a national level. Some of the local elections sherrif, mayor, aldermen, and county supervisors people still vote democrat but thats because they know the person and even still the ones that run democrat in the local elections vote republican in the national ones.
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I cant speak for other areas of the south but for my little corner of heaven it is Mostly sweet potato farmers and cattle ranchers. There is very little industry here. What is here is non union. I grew up raising cattle and watching my dad vote republican. Most of my friends are either farmers or blue collar workers. Most everyone is a sportsman here and they ALL vote conservative on a national level. Some of the local elections sherrif, mayor, aldermen, and county supervisors people still vote democrat but thats because they know the person and even still the ones that run democrat in the local elections vote republican in the national ones.
An anecdote doesnt change the math.
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