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Old 02-02-2013, 12:00   #1
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HS-5, HS-7 and AL-5

I don't recognize these three powders on the burn rate chart can someone tell me who makes these. I am looking in my Lyman Manual 3rd ed. 9mm 115 gr table
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Old 02-02-2013, 13:06   #2
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Hodgdon HS 5 and 7 are no longer in production.
So unless you get some in a trade you won't find any. If you do you need to find an older reloading manual to find data for them. HS3 was the fastest and HS7 was the slowest.
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Old 02-02-2013, 15:16   #3
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I was looking in the 3rd edition of the Lymans Cast Bullet handbook then looked in Lyman 37th edition of their Reloading Manual and they didnt appear..

Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:16   #4
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AL-5 was manufactured by Alcan and is no longer produced. My Speer #7 manual shows loads for it in .38/.357 guns.
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According to freakshow10mm, Longshot is the powder that replaced HS-7.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:27   #6
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I believe meathead is right longshot is the new hs7. You can split the difference and use hs6. The new handloader magazine has a ton of 9mm data Brian Pierce worked up in a kimber 1911 9mm. He uses the hogdon shotshell (hs) line both hs6 and longshot, alliants stuff from unique to power pistol and blue dot as well as the Accurate, VV, and ramshot lines of powders. He gets really good velocity out of that 5 inch tube with the slower powders in 90-147gr bullet weights. All his data is supposedly standard non +p pressures so there's room to go from his data.
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Old 02-04-2013, 13:48   #7
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HS6 is good stuff.
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Tom D,

I have use HS6 for 9mm, 38 special, 357 magnum & 45 ACP loads, it is a medium to slower burning powder (#42 - Hodgdon's burn rate chart). My best results with this powder was with 9mm.

Give this powder a try, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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The new handloader magazine has a ton of 9mm data Brian Pierce worked up in a kimber 1911 9mm.
Would you know what month of the handloader magazine I'll try to find a copy.

I let my subscription expire for what ever reason. its a great mag and I need to renew.
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Tom D,

I have use HS6 for 9mm, 38 special, 357 magnum & 45 ACP loads, it is a medium to slower burning powder (#42 - Hodgdon's burn rate chart). My best results with this powder was with 9mm.

Give this powder a try, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Im going to pick up a pound this week sometime. Ive had a lot of folks recommend it.
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Would you know what month of the handloader magazine I'll try to find a copy.

I let my subscription expire for what ever reason. its a great mag and I need to renew.
Feb 2013, No. 282 its on the website and if you look at the sample pdf it has the whole article. I saved the pdf on my phone.

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Old 02-04-2013, 17:28   #12
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Feb 2013, No. 282 its on the website and if you look at the sample pdf it has the whole article. I saved the pdf on my phone.
Got it thanks for the pointer. Wish it showed some lead loads but still its got a lot of data. i saveed it for sure.
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