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05-05-2011, 21:03
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Why so smokey?
I ran a handful of test loads through my gun the other day and I am beginning to wonder if I can find a load that is less smokey.
I have built up loads for 9mm with HS-6, Clays, HP-38, Bullseye and Titegroup and all of them seem smokey to me. The HS-6 is probably the least smokey.
For COAL I have used 1.13 for all the loads and usually load up to 0.1 -0.3 grains less than maximum (in order to keep some safety factor in my loads).
Are my rounds smokey since they are not maximum loads? Or is this just something I need to get used to? Any thoughts?
Billy Ray
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05-05-2011, 21:07
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Bullet type?
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05-05-2011, 21:07
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Most of the smoke comes from the lube on cast bullets. Using jacketed or plated bullets will reduce the smoke.
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05-05-2011, 21:11
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I use Montana Gold 124 FMJ bullets.
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05-05-2011, 21:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy_Ray
I use Montana Gold 124 FMJ bullets.
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I load basically the same bullet with HP-38 and Titegroup. The TG does have a little smoke to it. I wouldn't say excessive. You can definitely tell indoors if shooting double taps.
What is you TG load? I load 4.1 at 1.140 OAL 1100 fps out of my G34 1060 Fps out of my G19
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05-06-2011, 17:50
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Not familiar with Montana Gold but since you say FMJ, I'm assuming no lube. Lubed bullets smoke regardless of powder. I use bullseye(4.7 grains) w/ 115gr 9mm berry's bullets and don't have any smoke. Many powders when loaded at the lighter end smoke. Hope this helps.
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05-07-2011, 05:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxerglocker
I load basically the same bullet with HP-38 and Titegroup. The TG does have a little smoke to it. I wouldn't say excessive. You can definitely tell indoors if shooting double taps.
What is you TG load? I load 4.1 at 1.140 OAL 1100 fps out of my G34 1060 Fps out of my G19
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I was loading 4.2 at 1.13. The smoke was definetly noticed when doing follow up shots indoors.
Billy Ray
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05-07-2011, 10:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy_Ray
I was loading 4.2 at 1.13. The smoke was definetly noticed when doing follow up shots indoors.
Billy Ray
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Lots of smoke with FMJ? If you are running TG at 4.2, and your scale works, lots of smoke not been my experience at 3.8-4.2 with 124gr FMJ. Does it get better, worse or stay the same when shooting? What's the exact diameter of your bullets? Have you shot other FMJ in this gun?
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05-09-2011, 21:07
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Smoke seemed better with same load yesterday at the range. I did some double taps and the smoke did not seem problematic to me.
I still wonder about some of the other mid to high end loads that I have used.
Oh well.
Billy Ray
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05-10-2011, 06:31
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I use unique with a 230grain LRN and smoke my indoor range out. The blokes in the next lane always look over to see what the hell I'm doing. Quite amusing.
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