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Old 01-22-2015, 14:18   #1
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Thoughts on the M&P 15 Sport

Thinking of making this my first AR. I'm mostly looking for a range/ home defense gun. Frankly if it goes bang when I pull the trigger I'm happy. Not looking for anything over the top. Locally I can find them for a hair over $700 including tax. I know they are going for the low to mid $600 ranges online.

I have been doing a fair amount of reading online about them and the vast majority of reviews look to be very positive. My only concern was lack of a dust cover and forward assist but from what I have read that has not been an issue.

What have your guys experience been like with this rifle?

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Old 01-22-2015, 14:59   #2
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I love my sport. I have a M&P 15T for work, and bought the Sport after going through the S&W armorer course.

When we train on our rifles, I bring the Sport, and run it through the same drills as the *15T (using a cheap TruGlo red dot instead of the Aimpoint), and have had no issues (I actually like shooting it better than the T because it is lighter, without all the accessories).

You may hear some negatives due to the lack of forward assist and dust cover (a deal breaker for some) but it hasn't been an issue for me, and shouldn't be for what you are planning to use it for.

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If it makes you feel better the indentation on the bolt carrier can function as a forward assist. Buy it. I think you will be happy.

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Old 01-22-2015, 15:34   #4
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Buy it and don't worry about the little things.
Both the ejection port cover and the forward assist were there to remedy problems with the original AR design. The forward assist for when dirty brass just had to go into a dirty chamber and the port cover was there because the original AR had a bright, shiny industrial chrome bolt (and we all know what shiny things attract during firefights.)
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Old 01-22-2015, 16:05   #5
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Thanks for the responses fellas. Looks like I'm going to have to make some room in the safe.
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Old 01-22-2015, 16:11   #6
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I picked up the S&W Sport last year as a spare AR to my Bushmaster. My BM has been flawless, and I love it. But, I wanted a spare in case I go to a training class and my main AR goes down, or I bring someone with me when I go shooting, etc.

I've put about 500 rounds through the Sport; a mix of handloads, factory and Wolf steel. No issues. My plan is to keep the Sport a pretty plain Jane rifle, with the exception of adding some type of light source. I did through on the removable carry handle from my BM.
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I don't own a Sport, but I will offer a thought. If you wait for a sale at Palmetto State Armory, you can get what is in my opinion a far better rifle with a mid length gas system vs. carbine length on the Sport, a cold hammer forged chrome-lined barrel and chamber made by FN from machine gun steel, an M16 full auto bolt carrier group, etc for right at the same price as the Sport.
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I don't own a Sport, but I will offer a thought. If you wait for a sale at Palmetto State Armory, you can get what is in my opinion a far better rifle with a mid length gas system vs. carbine length on the Sport, a cold hammer forged chrome-lined barrel and chamber made by FN from machine gun steel, an M16 full auto bolt carrier group, etc for right at the same price as the Sport.

Interesting I'll have to take a look at that as well.
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http://www.bigdaddygun.com/products/...0rd-black.html

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Interesting I'll have to take a look at that as well.
You want the CHF mid length upper.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...upperpper.html

If you wait patiently, you can get a nice complete PSA lower with Magpul furniture for about $169.

Just be patient. You'll be all set.
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Old 01-22-2015, 21:59   #11
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I feel it's a no frills AR-15 that just flat out works, and priced appropriately, and also backed by a manufacturers warranty, which a "budget" build will not have.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:09   #12
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I just got my M&P Sport on Wednesday (my first AR also). I ordered it from grabagun.com for $599, no sales tax, and only $5 shipping! I ordered it on Friday and they shipped it out the very same day. It arrived at my LGS on Wednesday, and Monday was even a holiday. So it was $604 shipped and my LGS charges a flat $30 to do the transfer.
I haven't shot it yet, but it certainly looks and feels impressive. No rattle or play between upper and lower, and the takedown pins push without tools. I have 500 rounds of Wolf Gold just waiting to go!
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I just got my M&P Sport on Wednesday (my first AR also). I ordered it from grabagun.com for $599, no sales tax, and only $5 shipping! I ordered it on Friday and they shipped it out the very same day. It arrived at my LGS on Wednesday, and Monday was even a holiday. So it was $604 shipped and my LGS charges a flat $30 to do the transfer.
I haven't shot it yet, but it certainly looks and feels impressive. No rattle or play between upper and lower, and the takedown pins push without tools. I have 500 rounds of Wolf Gold just waiting to go!
The rattle will come with use. I like the M&P Sport. It comes without useless features like dust cover that doesn't keep out dust and THAT infernal device which gives inexperienced shooters the ability to cramp a bad round into the chamber.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:08   #14
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The only thing I don't love about it is the hand grip (the vertical one at the trigger). For the past 3 years, I have spent a great deal of time shooting my Walther PPQ, which has some of the best ergonomics on any gun anywhere. To go from that to an AR grip feels like I'm holding a chunk of wood. Are there better replacements available?
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To go from that to an AR grip feels like I'm holding a chunk of wood. Are there better replacements available?
You're talking about the most accessorized gun in the world. Of course there are replacements available. Do you have all next week to source through all the available grips?

MagPul, Troy, Tango Down, Ergo, Mission First, Hogue. I'm probably missing at least ten more manufacturers.
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Great rifle, especially for the range. have fun.
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Old 01-23-2015, 13:02   #17
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You're talking about the most accessorized gun in the world. Of course there are replacements available. Do you have all next week to source through all the available grips?

MagPul, Troy, Tango Down, Ergo, Mission First, Hogue. I'm probably missing at least ten more manufacturers.
Nice. I figured as much, but I haven't looked around yet. Any recommendations? Any that seem to fit better than others?
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I just got my M&P Sport on Wednesday (my first AR also). I ordered it from grabagun.com for $599, no sales tax, and only $5 shipping! I ordered it on Friday and they shipped it out the very same day. It arrived at my LGS on Wednesday, and Monday was even a holiday. So it was $604 shipped and my LGS charges a flat $30 to do the transfer.
I haven't shot it yet, but it certainly looks and feels impressive. No rattle or play between upper and lower, and the takedown pins push without tools. I have 500 rounds of Wolf Gold just waiting to go!
I love grabagun! They have been getting a lot of my money the past 2 years! Almost the only place I buy from now.
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The rattle will come with use. I like the M&P Sport. It comes without useless features like dust cover that doesn't keep out dust and THAT infernal device which gives inexperienced shooters the ability to cramp a bad round into the chamber.


OK, maybe not so funny. I figure that's for a do or die situation when your down to the last round in your last mag.
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OK, maybe not so funny. I figure that's for a do or die situation when your down to the last round in your last mag.
I was waiting for someone to follow up on that, but I'm not always very patient

I am still new to AR rifles, but I'm gonna say that with Direct Impingement AR's the chamber can and does become fouled after a few hundred rounds, that's why there is a forward assist. If one round fails to chamber, and that round is ejected manually, and then the second round fails to chamber...... whatcha gonna do?
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