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Old 02-24-2011, 19:12   #1
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New .357 SIG Round from DT

I just received this press release from DT a little while ago.

I'm a big fan of the .357 SIG but I'm a little iffy on this one. I'll need to learn more before I'm jumping in.

The new 357 Sig 80gr. Barnes TAC-XP @ 1725fps!!!

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...roducts_id=510

Similar treatment for the 9mm

The new 9mm 80gr. Barnes TACXP @ 1560fps!!!

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...roducts_id=509
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Old 02-24-2011, 19:34   #2
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Send me some I will chronograph them. I will bet they will not come close to what the factory says. I have chrono'ed 10 mm 45 auto from DT and they all ran 100 to 150 fps slower than they claim. Do a search on DT. I gave up on them. I like buffalo bore. They go the speed what is claimed.

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Old 02-24-2011, 19:59   #3
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I just received this press release from DT a little while ago.

I'm a big fan of the .357 SIG but I'm a little iffy on this one. I'll need to learn more before I'm jumping in.

The new 357 Sig 80gr. Barnes TAC-XP @ 1725fps!!!

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...roducts_id=510

Similar treatment for the 9mm

The new 9mm 80gr. Barnes TACXP @ 1560fps!!!

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...roducts_id=509

What the hell...................I would like to know what the recoil and consistency is like with these rounds. 80 grains
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Old 02-24-2011, 22:15   #4
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That 80-grain bullet sounds way too light for either 9mm or .357sig no matter what the velocity. And what exactly does anybody know about the bullet design? Will it perform at the stated velocity or is it an unknown quantity traveling at a high fps rate?

With so many proven 9mm and .357sig rounds currently available I'd wait to learn more about this particular bullet loaded to that velocity --- if it does reach the advertised velocity.
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Old 02-24-2011, 22:28   #5
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Eh, Not really impressed by the foot-pound numbers.
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Old 02-25-2011, 10:40   #6
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Eh, Not really impressed by the foot-pound numbers.
I agree. The velocity #s too, even if they chrono as advertized. If I really wanted a bullet that doesn't go deep or is highly frangible, I'd probably stick w/something like Glaser, or maybe even a Sierra offering.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:35   #7
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The round should work well for close quarters home SD duty as the description says. With 1600+ fps velocity and the Barnes rep for expansion, overpenetration shouldn't be an issue. I will not be buying it but I can see why some may.

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Old 02-25-2011, 11:37   #8
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Gonna splash when it hits something.
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Old 02-25-2011, 12:57   #9
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Eh, Not really impressed by the foot-pound numbers.
Me neither!

unit1069 asked about what specific bullet we're talking about here. It's a Barnes' solid copper bullet in hollow point form.

1725 fps = 529 ft-lbs

1560 fps = 432 ft-lbs

Big woopee. I also received the email from DT. I see why McNett isn't trying to sell it based on kinetic energy numbers. I'm certainly not impressed.

The velocity looks good till you look at the whole picture.

I also agree with jason.223 where he said; "I will bet they will not come close to what the factory says." The "1725fps" is based on shooting from a 4.25" barreled S&W M&P. I'ld be surprised if they (either the 9 or 357 load) chrono out to within 75fps of that. If so, kinetic energy drops to -

1650 fps = 484 ft-lbs

1485 fps = 392 ft-lbs


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