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04-15-2009, 15:05
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#601
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt86
I played with my buddy's taser a little bit after court and didn't seem to have any trouble turning it on or aiming with my left hand so I will probably wear it left handed draw.
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I've always thought off hand draw should be mandated for tasers.
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04-15-2009, 15:45
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#602
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Originally Posted by Gangrel
I've always thought off hand draw should be mandated for tasers.
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It is for most departments. It gives the department cover if the officer makes that small mistake of killing the guy instead of tazing him. The guy probably deserved it anyway right?
Isn't that the defense the DART officer used who shot the guy in the back while he was handcuffed and on his stomach back a few months ago?
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04-15-2009, 16:23
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#603
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You mean cross draw.
I mean a straight draw with your off hand.
BART carried their tasers on their strong side. Bad idea.
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04-15-2009, 23:14
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#604
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Juris Glocktor
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We have them cross draw on the belt. The brass is not too hot on the idea of the drop leg off side taser holsters yet. Too tactical, they say.
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04-16-2009, 06:41
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#605
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"too tactical" should not be a phrase in modern day policing
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04-16-2009, 08:14
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#606
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Juris Glocktor
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Originally Posted by Gangrel
"too tactical" should not be a phrase in modern day policing
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The admin/brass still can't get used to it. The fight over nylon is still raging for some too. It seems that patrol shouldn't wear nylon, only special units like gangs and such. Sad state of affairs. As long as we do our jobs and don't look sloppy, especially if it helps the comfort level, why not?
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04-16-2009, 09:06
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#607
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CLM Number 294
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Originally Posted by lawman800
The admin/brass still can't get used to it. The fight over nylon is still raging for some too. It seems that patrol shouldn't wear nylon, only special units like gangs and such. Sad state of affairs. As long as we do our jobs and don't look sloppy, especially if it helps the comfort level, why not?
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Are you allowed leather style nylon, like the fake basketweave stuff?
Have you made safety arguments? Nylon can take harsher disinfectants without damage, while leather would get wrecked if you tried to properly decontaminate it after a blood exposure...
Also, nylon is lighter and therefore less likely to cause back injuries.
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04-17-2009, 20:36
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#608
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"First the patrol guys ask for nylon gear...if we give them that the next thing they are going to want is suspenders.....then they will want BDU pants....then listen-only earpieces....next thing you know we have 50 swat officers running around the streets...no, it's basketweave and you'll like it."
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04-17-2009, 21:04
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#609
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Juris Glocktor
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Originally Posted by spdski
Are you allowed leather style nylon, like the fake basketweave stuff?
Have you made safety arguments? Nylon can take harsher disinfectants without damage, while leather would get wrecked if you tried to properly decontaminate it after a blood exposure...
Also, nylon is lighter and therefore less likely to cause back injuries.
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Oh, I don't care really. I wear nylon... those patrol guys are on their own! SUCKAHS!
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04-19-2009, 15:37
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#610
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That mag pouch/cuff idea is pretty cool.
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04-19-2009, 21:45
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#611
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lawman800
The admin/brass still can't get used to it. The fight over nylon is still raging for some too. It seems that patrol shouldn't wear nylon, only special units like gangs and such. Sad state of affairs. As long as we do our jobs and don't look sloppy, especially if it helps the comfort level, why not?
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Yup same here. NO NYLON except for bike units and SWAT.
We too are mandated to have the taser cross drawed. I wore a drop rig on my "weak" thigh for a bit and really liked it until one day a "boss" showed up and hammered me. That was the end of that. IT was way to intimidating according the the powers that be. If they think that's intimidating they should stare down the business end with the laser, but then again P.O.'s are not allowed to carry them either. Go figure
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04-19-2009, 21:49
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#612
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Juris Glocktor
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Originally Posted by sos4364
Yup same here. NO NYLON except for bike units and SWAT.
We too are mandated to have the taser cross drawed. I wore a drop rig on my "weak" thigh for a bit and really liked it until one day a "boss" showed up and hammered me. That was the end of that. IT was way to intimidating according the the powers that be. If they think that's intimidating they should stare down the business end with the laser, but then again P.O.'s are not allowed to carry them either. Go figure
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I hate it when we intimidate those who seek to prey on others.
Isn't there some agency or unit out there that has it in their motto that they intimidate those who seek to oppress others or something like that?
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04-19-2009, 23:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lawman800
I hate it when we intimidate those who seek to prey on others.
Isn't there some agency or unit out there that has it in their motto that they intimidate those who seek to oppress others or something like that?
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"We intimidate those who intimidate others" Its a California Agency, I think LAPD.
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04-20-2009, 00:09
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Juris Glocktor
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Originally Posted by 02Mineralgraygt
"We intimidate those who intimidate others" Its a California Agency, I think LAPD.
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Not very likely to be LAPD... more like "We cater to those who hate us because our traitorous mayor and the Consent Decree say so".
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04-20-2009, 18:12
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Originally Posted by lawman800
Not very likely to be LAPD... more like "We cater to those who hate us because our traitorous mayor and the Consent Decree say so".
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The cops in the anti-gang unit in Los Angeles' Rampart division had a motto: "We intimidate those who intimidate others." They worked the city's most violent neighborhoods, met firepower with firepower and succeeded in bringing gang-related crimes down 60% from 1992 to 1999.
Taken from this article - http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...-88806,00.html
Not sure how much truth there is in that article, but Lt. Col. Dave Grossman also mentions that it came from a California Agency in this excerpt
http://www.killology.com/sheep_dog.htm
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04-20-2009, 21:06
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#616
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Juris Glocktor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 02Mineralgraygt
The cops in the anti-gang unit in Los Angeles' Rampart division had a motto: "We intimidate those who intimidate others." They worked the city's most violent neighborhoods, met firepower with firepower and succeeded in bringing gang-related crimes down 60% from 1992 to 1999.
Taken from this article - http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...-88806,00.html
Not sure how much truth there is in that article, but Lt. Col. Dave Grossman also mentions that it came from a California Agency in this excerpt
http://www.killology.com/sheep_dog.htm
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We all know how well that CRASH unit worked out for LAPD and how cozy it got them with the Feds.
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04-26-2009, 15:11
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#617
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How do ya like them apples?
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04-26-2009, 16:13
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#618
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Juris Glocktor
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Originally Posted by yapper
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You got it on backwards. The katana is carried crossdraw along with the wakizashi.
I carry my lightsaber right behind my holster, clipped on the key holder. Good thing it came with a keyring. It's in the shop getting the plasma generator serviced.
Double mag pouch (pointed toward center)
ASP holder
Radio case
Double cuff case
OC holder
Ultra Stinger loop
Silent key holder
M6004 Safariland (G21/M6)
Digital tape recorder
Latex gloves
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04-26-2009, 16:20
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CLM Number 185
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How much was the holster? I have been looking for such a holster for my Springfield Operator.
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04-26-2009, 17:03
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#620
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It's just a 6280.
Looks like the going rate is about $135 is "real" Safariland leather and $85 in fine-tac or STX basketweave.
Safariland is now making a 6360 (ALS) for a railed 1911 with a tac light, and it is running about $107 in fine tac or stx basketweave.
I will probably be unloading my 6280s on the GT forums in the near future since i just got a 6360 for the 1911.
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04-26-2009, 17:42
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My dept doesn't let us keep our weapon light mounted. i have to carry mine in a separate pouch. It's BS.
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04-26-2009, 18:11
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#622
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Juris Glocktor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yapper
My dept doesn't let us keep our weapon light mounted. i have to carry mine in a separate pouch. It's BS.
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Suffolk County?
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04-26-2009, 18:14
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CLM Number 185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBigBR
It's just a 6280.
Looks like the going rate is about $135 is "real" Safariland leather and $85 in fine-tac or STX basketweave.
Safariland is now making a 6360 (ALS) for a railed 1911 with a tac light, and it is running about $107 in fine tac or stx basketweave.
I will probably be unloading my 6280s on the GT forums in the near future since i just got a 6360 for the 1911.
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Is that holster Leather? If so, put me down for "first dibs" if/when you decide to sell it. If your Kimber TLE/RL II fits in it, my Springfield Operator should drop right in with a TLR-2 on it.
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04-26-2009, 21:00
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#624
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Oink Oink
Join Date: May 2005
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This thread needs a bump for my newly acquired taser
From left to right:
Double mag pouch
Taser x26
Portaclip for my Moto Radio
Open top cuff case
Asp
Sig P229 Holster
Open top cuff case
Open top OC case
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04-26-2009, 21:03
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#625
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Juris Glocktor
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt86
This thread needs a bump for my newly acquired taser
From left to right:
Double mag pouch
Taser x26
Portaclip for my Moto Radio
Open top cuff case
Asp
Sig P229 Holster
Open top cuff case
Open top OC case |
That's a lot of empty real estate!
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