[rfd339]

Thank you for your time for doing this great review. Being a 40sw fan I really like the write up on the CZ75 Champion .

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by rfd339

Thank you for your time for doing this great review. Being a 40sw fan I really like the write up on the CZ75 Champion .

Glad to hear.

Thank you.

[Quack]

Nice!!!

so i was driving home today and i was listening to a podcast, and thought "hmmm...bac1023 should do a podcast about the different guns he owns"
with 1911's that's about 47 episodes in itself

[jp3975]

Great post.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by Quack

Nice!!!

so i was driving home today and i was listening to a podcast, and thought "hmmm...bac1023 should do a podcast about the different guns he owns"
with 1911's that's about 47 episodes in itself

[gruntmedik]

Very nice review, as usual.


Next review should be along the lines of suitable carpet for handgun pics.

[deadite]

How did I miss this thread? I guess I sorta ignore the stickies.

Nice work BAC! I dig the 38 Special wadcutter calibered Smith!

deadite

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by gruntmedik

Very nice review, as usual.


Next review should be along the lines of suitable carpet for handgun pics.

Thanks!

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by deadite

How did I miss this thread? I guess I sorta ignore the stickies.

Nice work BAC! I dig the 38 Special wadcutter calibered Smith!

deadite

Thanks deadite.

Yeah, the stickies are easy to pass by without even realizing it.

[iconoclast]

Hello bac,

I appreciate the time and effort you placed into your post, as I have considered purchasing a few of the models you have listed.

I would love to hear your opinions on several more models I am still considering, particularly with regard to (listed in general order of my priority)
1. trigger (weight, feel, action)
I consider the CZ Tactical sport the benchmark target pistol trigger and assume your CZ champion has a very similar if not identical trigger action.

2. ergonomics (grip size, angle, trigger distance, balance, weight)
I would likely place the CZ-SPO-1 or SIG 226 X5 Level 1 as the benchmarks in this category.

3. sights

4. recoil and weight


Models I am considering include:

1. Beretta 92 Steel
- now ruled out based upon your description of the trigger.

2. S&W PPC 9mm
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

3. Beretta 92 Combat
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

4. Beretta 92 Target
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

5. Tanfoglio Gold Team Elite 9mm
- in particular I would like to hear your comparisons between this model and the CZ Tactical Sport and Champion.
-I was seriously considering this gun for its factory compensator, ported barrel, and fitted magazine well but eventually passed due to numerous reports of difficult repair and parts availability and very poor customer service.

6. HK USP expert 9mm
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

7. HK USP Elite 9mm
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

8. Glock 17L with Vanek trigger kit
- I already own this, but would like your opinion for comparisons to other models (above).

9. CCF raceframe with g34 or g17L slide
- I already own this, but would like your opinion for comparisons to other models (above).

10. STI Targetmaster, 9mm
- I already essentially ruled this pistol out secondary to its ergonomics, and expensive, limited capacity, and questionably reliable magazines, though I would like to hear your experiences and comparisons


Many thanks for your insight.

SSR

[1911ES]

Excellent work, and super pictures in this very informative, and I'm sure, time consuming Post ....
How many years did it take to accumulate this fine arsenal of pistols ? Again, very cool thread .....

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by 1911ES

Excellent work, and super pictures in this very informative, and I'm sure, time consuming Post ....
How many years did it take to accumulate this fine arsenal of pistols ? Again, very cool thread .....

Thanks for the compliments.

I've been collecting handguns for a long time, but all the pistols in this thread were purchased over the last four years or so.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

Hello bac,

I appreciate the time and effort you placed into your post, as I have considered purchasing a few of the models you have listed.

I would love to hear your opinions on several more models I am still considering, particularly with regard to (listed in general order of my priority)
1. trigger (weight, feel, action)
I consider the CZ Tactical sport the benchmark target pistol trigger and assume your CZ champion has a very similar if not identical trigger action.

2. ergonomics (grip size, angle, trigger distance, balance, weight)
I would likely place the CZ-SPO-1 or SIG 226 X5 Level 1 as the benchmarks in this category.

3. sights

4. recoil and weight


Models I am considering include:

1. Beretta 92 Steel
- now ruled out based upon your description of the trigger.

2. S&W PPC 9mm
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

3. Beretta 92 Combat
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

4. Beretta 92 Target
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

5. Tanfoglio Gold Team Elite 9mm
- in particular I would like to hear your comparisons between this model and the CZ Tactical Sport and Champion.
-I was seriously considering this gun for its factory compensator, ported barrel, and fitted magazine well but eventually passed due to numerous reports of difficult repair and parts availability and very poor customer service.

6. HK USP expert 9mm
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

7. HK USP Elite 9mm
- likely ruled out as it is no longer available from the factory.

8. Glock 17L with Vanek trigger kit
- I already own this, but would like your opinion for comparisons to other models (above).

9. CCF raceframe with g34 or g17L slide
- I already own this, but would like your opinion for comparisons to other models (above).

10. STI Targetmaster, 9mm
- I already essentially ruled this pistol out secondary to its ergonomics, and expensive, limited capacity, and questionably reliable magazines, though I would like to hear your experiences and comparisons


Many thanks for your insight.

SSR

Wow, let's see.

For starters, I do believe the CZ TS and Champion have identical triggers, though CZ claims the Champion has more hand fitting in the building process. Either way, they both have outstanding triggers. Since the Champion is gone now, the Tactical Sport is pretty much CZ's top pistol.

The Smith PPC-9 is for all intents and purposes, a double stack 952.

The Tanfoglio triggers are very nice. I have the Limited, which has the same trigger as the Gold series. That said, its not as light or crisp as the Champion's trigger.

I don't have any experience with the Vanek trigger kit, so I can't comment.

As far as the STI is concerned, I don't feel its quite up to the quality level as some of these target pistols. I do love the 1911 trigger, but for the price of some of these pistols, you can get a better 1911 then the Targetmaster.

Thge USP Expert and Elites are nice pistols, but I don't feel they have triggers on par with some of these SAO models.

The Berettas are also very nice, but I'd take the Steel model over the Target or Combat.

FWIW, I would not rule out a pistol just because its no longer in production.

Hope this helps somewhat.

[iconoclast]

Once again bac,

Thanks for your time and effort.

Your opinions on the Beretta Steel, SW PPC 9, Tanfoglio, and STI are particularly helpful - I suppose I can put those issues to rest and keep my eyes open for a nice PPC 9 and/or CZ champion (it seems someone recently purchased the last one on the continent ).


Good luck and happy collecting.


SSR

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

Once again bac,

Thanks for your time and effort.

Your opinions on the Beretta Steel, SW PPC 9, Tanfoglio, and STI are particularly helpful - I suppose I can put those issues to rest and keep my eyes open for a nice PPC 9 and/or CZ champion (it seems someone recently purchased the last one on the continent ).


Good luck and happy collecting.


SSR

Thanks.

Glad you liked the report.

[Tactical black]

Great review Brian I can't believe I missed this thread so far I can't wait to see your 1911 buyers guide.

[awtCZ]

Originally Posted by Tactical black

Great review Brian I can't believe I missed this thread so far I can't wait to see your 1911 buyers guide.

You're welcome for the heads up!

[Tactical black]

Originally Posted by awtCZ

You're welcome for the heads up!

Thanks man

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by Tactical black

Great review Brian I can't believe I missed this thread so far I can't wait to see your 1911 buyers guide.

Thanks.

Yeah, I need to get working on that at some point.

[Rinspeed]

Originally Posted by bac1023

Thanks.

Yeah, I need to get working on that at some point.

Let me know when you want to start.

[dne752]

Originally Posted by bac1023

That's an idea, Berto.

I don't think I've ever posted a revolver test on this forum.

I have some nice wheelguns, but not nearly the variety like I have with autos.

A Colt, Ruger, S&W and anything else you've got tucked away "shootout" of the .357 caliber would be interesting. No raceguns or performance center gun, maybe replacement grips and small DIY tweeks.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by Rinspeed

Let me know when you want to start.

[Chonny]

This thread is an absolute sham. Not one damn 1911 in the entire review.

Just kidding.

I would really love to get a P226 X Five.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by Chonny

This thread is an absolute sham. Not one damn 1911 in the entire review.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by Chonny

I would really love to get a P226 X Five.

You wouldn't be disappointed.