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Old 10-05-2010, 11:47   #26
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If want to carry a C model try shooting it in blackness if you can. Then judge for yourself.
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:50   #27
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I carry a G19c. I was browsing google and ran into some other forums. They didnt reccomend carrying the compensated model due to the flash of the muzzle and slide. I really don't feel it's a issue IMO. What do you guys think??
It's not an issue! The supposed flash blinding you at night has pretty much been disproved, but it still has life in the gun world. I suggest you do a shoot in low light to see how it works for you. It doesn't bother me at all.
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:01   #28
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Well, good for you.

I don't even want the CHANCE of that happening, if I have to use the gun in a SD situation.

As I said, I prefer everything go out the front, away from me and towards the bad guy.
I wear my sunglasses at night, so Im good
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:13   #29
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While I don't currently own a G19C, when I did I compared it to a 38 special revolver in low lighting conditions. Guess what, the revolver had more flash coming from the barrel-cylinder gap than the flash coming from the G19's port. This is highly over-rated IMHO.
Thanks for sharing your comparison. I agree it's overated, I just thought it was kinda funny what some of the crazy stuff people were saying on other forums and wanted to see gt's take on it.
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:17   #30
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It's not an issue! The supposed flash blinding you at night has pretty much been disproved, but it still has life in the gun world. I suggest you do a shoot in low light to see how it works for you. It doesn't bother me at all.
Ok, good to hear. I really don't think it's a issue either. It's not like the c models are the only guns that might have a little flash in the dark IMO.
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:29   #31
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Spoken by someone who doesn't understand the physics of porting/compensation and who has never fired one. Compensated models remove muzzle flip, sending recoil straight back into the hand, giving you a faster, more accurate second shot. They make compensators for .22 pistols. Why? Because EVERY caliber fired will generate muzzle flip to some degree.

Actually I have fired a compensated 19 6 times. Speaking for me and only me, a 19 is like a cap gun. I have no need for a compensated barrel.
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Actually I have fired a compensated 19 6 times. Speaking for me and only me, a 19 is like a cap gun. I have no need for a compensated barrel.
Two reasons I picked up the G19c. It's the only model of 19 my dealer had and he gave me a hell of a deal on trade for my 23. I have no issues with the muzzle flash.
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Well, good for you.

I don't even want the CHANCE of that happening, if I have to use the gun in a SD situation.

As I said, I prefer everything go out the front, away from me and towards the bad guy.
right on, to each his own.
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Two reasons I picked up the G19c. It's the only model of 19 my dealer had and he gave me a hell of a deal on trade for my 23. I have no issues with the muzzle flash.
I love the 23 , I have 2 of them , one is an RTF2.
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Old 10-05-2010, 14:07   #35
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I'd buy a non-ported barrel for carry.
You won't notice the flash or noise if you need it, but if you are in a wierd position, like contact shooting, you may notice debris in the eyes. You will not likely practice shooting with the ports pointed towards your face, but the real world can get real ugly.
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You've got a 4.02" barrel. Porting robs you of velocity. Loss of velocity robs you of "mushrooming" capability with HP's.
I guess, if I carried this, that I'd try to use "short barrel" ammo that utilizes faster-burning powder. I'm not a fan of porting but it has its advantages.
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Old 10-05-2010, 14:33   #37
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I thought an aftermarket threaded barrel with a AR birdcage type flash suppressor attached would be novel. Probably a waste of money, but novel. I thought it would look cool on a G27.
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Old 10-05-2010, 14:46   #38
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I don't think so
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Old 10-05-2010, 15:11   #39
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I carry a 23C most of the time and have never had a problem with dirt or materials in the barrel. I have also never been blinded by a huge flash of light. What I have noticed is that the felt recoil is less to me and has helped me to get back on target. I have only positive things to say about the C models one of them being that they are just as reliable and have that special look to them that makes me love the gun.
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Old 10-05-2010, 15:21   #40
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One of my two carry guns is a G39 with a Stock G38 barrel modified with muzzle ports.

Compensation doesn't bother me. Shooting at night, low light, etc...

The ports are forward-angled, so anything not 'going out the front' is actually going forward anyway.

Since I'm left-handed, when shooting from retention I angle the gun away from my body to eliminate the possibility of the ejector port fouling on my shirt; this happens to also eliminate any problem with exhaust gases from the ports, so shooting from retention with compensation is not an issue.
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Old 10-05-2010, 15:51   #41
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You've got a 4.02" barrel. Porting robs you of velocity. Loss of velocity robs you of "mushrooming" capability with HP's.
I guess, if I carried this, that I'd try to use "short barrel" ammo that utilizes faster-burning powder. I'm not a fan of porting but it has its advantages.
Not by much, not enough to even worry about...
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16082982
G17:

1200
1223
1190
1185
1196
1200
1220
1215
1209
1215

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1156
1153
1152
1152
1136
1138
1136
1135
1156
1147

Avg 1146 FPS
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I love the 23 , I have 2 of them , one is an RTF2.
My 23 was a rtf2, I really didn't like the texture. That's one of the reasons I traded it.
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Infiniti, thanks for posting that!!
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My 23 was a rtf2, I really didn't like the texture. That's one of the reasons I traded it.

Iliked it so much I got a 22 RTF and A 21SF RTF2. The 21 is sweet.
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Old 10-05-2010, 17:12   #45
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Old 10-05-2010, 17:14   #46
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Iliked it so much I got a 22 RTF and A 21SF RTF2. The 21 is sweet.
The only thing I didn't like was I had wear a undershirt. If I didn't it would rub me raw. It wasn't something I thought about when I bought it.
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Old 10-05-2010, 17:31   #47
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Can anyone actually refer to a case of a comped Glock putting "debris" into somone's eyes? Unless you align the sights by puttin the bottom of the slide under your chin I would not worry about this. You have a better chance of being hit in the eye by an ejected case out of any autoloader.

If this train of thought continues please make sure that no one is recommended a revolver. A revolver passes more crap than a ported glock with quality ammo. Run jacketed ammo with quality powder (any factory sd ammo) and you will be fine.

I have shot hundreds of rounds from a low hip position out of a 23C and the only difference is that the sound is louder. Slightly twisting the body and holding the pistol sideways with the slide away from your duty belt, jacket and obstructions is being taught by many which then also directs the noise / blast away from you. This was NOT taught due to the comp but to keep the slide from being snagged and causing a failure.
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Old 10-05-2010, 17:39   #48
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I would carry a "C" model Glock .
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Old 10-05-2010, 18:01   #50
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Would I carry one? Yes...As soon as I get around to ordering a 23c I will....Yeah and I know those of us who shoot 9mm aren't men and there's no need to compensate a 9mm etc...But why wouldn't you want whatever caliber you choose to have less recoil? Is it necessary, no....Does it still make a difference...yes...less recoil=value added in my book...just like stippling, weapon mounted lights, and lasers...

I love hearing the stories about the flash slowing down follow up shots and blinding you and this and that...Even when you shoot a non comped pistol at night theres already plenty of muzzle flash if it were to distract you...
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