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Old 02-21-2011, 21:49   #76
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Misses are bad for the soul
Between a slow stage or a stage w/ misses , I'll take the slow stage
Naapektuhan ng miss mga susnod kong stages e, but that's just me
Shooting for A's makes your stages consistent

If you cant move as fast as the athletic guys, well you have to shoot A's AND shoot FASTER than the other guys to be successful
Ang laki kasi ng difference ng splits nyo, doble ng splits nya plus he moves faster
Yes , speed does make a differnce pag ganyan kalaki ang agwat
Pero among the top guys na .5 to a sec lang difference sa time , it's accuracy that will win it
What are your split times sa 25m? Do you even know?
What was your splits a month ago? did it improve today?
forget what the others are doing muna , and concentrate on improving your specific weaknesses

dont worry about talented shooters, once they start winning they stop improving kasi tinatamad
You can catch up
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:38   #77
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muntik nako makapag live fire sa wakas
kaso andun pala si apollo sa range , natakot ako magsasala binalik ko nalang yung baril sa kotse hehe

started dryfiring again
awkward lahat , front sight was all over the place pag double action
slowed everything down , a little slower pa than sobrang bagal
building muscle memory thru very slow reps
Need to build trigger finger strength for the DA trigger
Naduduling ako sa target/frontsight so i just decided to dryfire sa blank wall to focus on sight alignment
Had to remember to hold for 3 sec after pulling trigger
I think i'm right on sked, mga 3 araw pa tinatamad na ulit ako hehe
sana hindi, miss ko na si apollo
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Old 02-26-2011, 17:43   #78
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I was talking about M. Lontoc. Wala pang results so hinde ko pa alam ilang percent difference namin. I think the only way I'm successful at this game is I shoot a lot of A's and I don't miss as much. I know at my speed, if I miss, patay na ko kaagad. Pero binilang namin ni Ans; his 15 seconds advantage amounts to "just" 0.50 seconds per shot. To simplify, I don't think its unrealistic if his splits is 0.25 faster than me sa 20M targets. Pwede kasing 0.25 splits niya, ako close to 0.50. So kalahati na yun, thats a full 7.5 seconds faster than me already sa splits/traverse pa lang yun. Tapos the other 7.5 seconds can be attributed to the 6 shooting positions in the stage. Lamangan lang niya ako ng 1 sec per shooting position, thats almost another 7.5 seconds na ulet un.
Buti nalang may "coach" dito sa BOG hehehe! Although it's supposed to be DVC, parang mas may advantage and speed sa accuracy. Speed can make up for accuracy more than accuracy can make up for speed? What do you think?
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Misses are bad for the soul
Between a slow stage or a stage w/ misses , I'll take the slow stage
Naapektuhan ng miss mga susnod kong stages e, but that's just me
Shooting for A's makes your stages consistent

If you cant move as fast as the athletic guys, well you have to shoot A's AND shoot FASTER than the other guys to be successful
Ang laki kasi ng difference ng splits nyo, doble ng splits nya plus he moves faster
Yes , speed does make a differnce pag ganyan kalaki ang agwat
Pero among the top guys na .5 to a sec lang difference sa time , it's accuracy that will win it
What are your split times sa 25m? Do you even know?
What was your splits a month ago? did it improve today?
forget what the others are doing muna , and concentrate on improving your specific weaknesses

dont worry about talented shooters, once they start winning they stop improving kasi tinatamad
You can catch up
Theres a lot of inputs here, I cant agree more

I hope Allegra will be active again in shooting competitions

My wish is that we BoGs have our days in the range to practice and interact in person, that will be great!

I was in Karingal yesterday instead of lev 2 in Tuy Bat. Will try to post videos later, kung d pa kayo sawa
To date I have 3 matches behind in open, though not big ones
One observation I have is, I still dont trust a red dot on a target as much as I do a front sight.
Whenever I speed up the process of target-sight-shoot, I felt not so comfortable.
I think w/ time and experience, lots of them, will eventually resolve this.
But in doing so, my skills in shooting my std gun whatever level that may be, will also suffer as my time w/ it will be used up in shooting open gun.
My problem really is, I recently discovered I enjoy shooting my std gun much more than my open (notwithstanding its simplier to shoot than a std), so Im not really decided in giving up std for the Open.
Thats my dilemma.
Just this week, When I was preparing for the Tuy match, I decided to shoot in std so I loaded ammo for it. When I was about to leave and everything was in the car, I was having 2nd thoughts and decided to shoot in Open. So I hurriedly loaded ammo for it and exchanged my gears in the car. what a way to be decisive!
At this very moment, I cant decide w/c gun to practice and shoot in upcoming matches.
Thats a big issue for me and its driving me NUTS!
Hope w/ inputs here, I can decide w/c way to go asap.
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Old 02-26-2011, 19:13   #79
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I was talking about M. Lontoc. Wala pang results so hinde ko pa alam ilang percent difference namin. I think the only way I'm successful at this game is I shoot a lot of A's and I don't miss as much. I know at my speed, if I miss, patay na ko kaagad. Pero binilang namin ni Ans; his 15 seconds advantage amounts to "just" 0.50 seconds per shot. To simplify, I don't think its unrealistic if his splits is 0.25 faster than me sa 20M targets. Pwede kasing 0.25 splits niya, ako close to 0.50. So kalahati na yun, thats a full 7.5 seconds faster than me already sa splits/traverse pa lang yun. Tapos the other 7.5 seconds can be attributed to the 6 shooting positions in the stage. Lamangan lang niya ako ng 1 sec per shooting position, thats almost another 7.5 seconds na ulet un.
Buti nalang may "coach" dito sa BOG hehehe! Although it's supposed to be DVC, parang mas may advantage and speed sa accuracy. Speed can make up for accuracy more than accuracy can make up for speed? What do you think?
Ahts, let me share some experiences thats very useful to me til now but Im not that "coach":

After disecting the whole thing and determined what to work on (as you do now), I proceed to work on it as hard as I can. When preparing to practice and during practice, I forget the personality involved and the match situation that went w/ it. I dont even practice w/ an upcomming match in my mind. I can focus better on what Im practicing if those things are out of my mind. If an upcoming match is in my mind during practice, I stop and go home. I know I wont absorb or learn what Im practicing w/ that distraction.

In speed and accuracy, I treat them as one. I know they work in contrast w/ each other. But my job is to find a mix of them that will work to my goal. The sooner I treat them as one the earlier I will find that mix. To others, its speed vs accuracy. To me its speed and accuracy. One is useless without the other. In TGO's words: if you are too slow, it will not matter how accurate you are. Which is which in what situation? Now its your job to find that mix

When in a match, I dont shoot w/ my match ranking in mind (not because Im a hopeless case). Nor how I will compare w/ that shooter. Nor how I will fare w/ my peers' expectations of me. Nor how I will shoot to my own expectations. Sometimes I succumb to these. but 80% of the time I dont. I just focus on what I need to do at that time. I only use these inputs in studying past performances, again as you do now. But it should stop there, no more no less. Some may find this hard to believe or do. But after reading a lot about this phenom, I've thrown away lots of matches in the past from lev 1s to 3s in search for it. Ive gone thru lots and lots of experimenations w/ it and myself. And in the process, I learned a lot how me and my mind works. Once I found it, it was never difficult or complicated to do and never scaped me since. I am able to shoot in the match as I shoot in practice most of the time, so I enjoy the match more. It also removes a lot of match pressure in me. In fact its so simple that I wondered how it scaped me for so long. Just like calling every shot
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Ahts, let me share some experiences thats very useful to me til now but Im not that "coach":

After disecting the whole thing and determined what to work on (as you do now), I proceed to work on it as hard as I can. When preparing to practice and during practice, I forget the personality involved and the match situation that went w/ it. I dont even practice w/ an upcomming match in my mind. I can focus better on what Im practicing if those things are out of my mind. If an upcoming match is in my mind during practice, I stop and go home. I know I wont absorb or learn what Im practicing w/ that distraction.

In speed and accuracy, I treat them as one. I know they work in contrast w/ each other. But my job is to find a mix of them that will work to my goal. The sooner I treat them as one the earlier I will find that mix. To others, its speed vs accuracy. To me its speed and accuracy. One is useless without the other. In TGO's words: if you are too slow, it will not matter how accurate you are. Which is which in what situation? Now its your job to find that mix

When in a match, I dont shoot w/ my match ranking in mind (not because Im a hopeless case). Nor how I will compare w/ that shooter. Nor how I will fare w/ my peers' expectations of me. Nor how I will shoot to my own expectations. Sometimes I succumb to these. but 80% of the time I dont. I just focus on what I need to do at that time. I only use these inputs in studying past performances, again as you do now. But it should stop there, no more no less. Some may find this hard to believe or do. But after reading a lot about this phenom, I've thrown away lots of matches in the past from lev 1s to 3s in search for it. Ive gone thru lots and lots of experimenations w/ it and myself. And in the process, I learned a lot how me and my mind works. Once I found it, it was never difficult or complicated to do and never scaped me since. I am able to shoot in the match as I shoot in practice most of the time, so I enjoy the match more. It also removes a lot of match pressure in me. In fact its so simple that I wondered how it scaped me for so long. Just like calling every shot
I like that a speed AND accuracy

May malaking laro ba this weekend?
bakit naka kill mode friday pa lang ang aking mga local shooter friends?
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muntik nako makapag live fire sa wakas
kaso andun pala si apollo sa range , natakot ako magsasala binalik ko nalang yung baril sa kotse hehe

started dryfiring again
awkward lahat , front sight was all over the place pag double action
slowed everything down , a little slower pa than sobrang bagal
building muscle memory thru very slow reps
Need to build trigger finger strength for the DA trigger
Naduduling ako sa target/frontsight so i just decided to dryfire sa blank wall to focus on sight alignment
Had to remember to hold for 3 sec after pulling trigger
I think i'm right on sked, mga 3 araw pa tinatamad na ulit ako hehe
sana hindi, miss ko na si apollo

plus 1 on wall dry fire it help me also to focus on sight alignment.

musta na fafa A, san range kau nagkita ni kuya apol?
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kuya PG cant resist the temptation

Band of Glockers

now i need to ask my gunsmth for the comp i want the small one only, il use my caspian slide for this project btw.

any suggestion po?
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plus 1 on wall dry fire it help me also to focus on sight alignment.

musta na fafa A, san range kau nagkita ni kuya apol?
sa firing range ni kuya louie pards, yung indoor sa sta rosa
baka dun muna ako magpractice
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May malaking laro ba this weekend?
bakit naka kill mode friday pa lang ang aking mga local shooter friends?
meron sir, Gov L. Pineda Cup. Lev 3, Qualifier for WS

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kuya PG cant resist the temptation

Band of Glockers

now i need to ask my gunsmth for the comp i want the small one only, il use my caspian slide for this project btw.

any suggestion po?
kelangan mo ata longer barrel to attach the comp?
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a ok pards, thanks did you shoot sa level 3?
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here are some of my stages in Usec Puno Cup
bahala na po kayo humusga
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPDeVQ-iUDc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlOxI6vXPI
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a ok pards, thanks did you shoot sa level 3?
no sir, this weekend pa yun, march 4-6.

but i might shoot std, Im not really at ease pa sa Open.cannot decide yet
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no sir, this weekend pa yun, march 4-6.

but i might shoot std, Im not really at ease pa sa Open.cannot decide yet
shoot what you'll enjoy then
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shoot what you'll enjoy then
thanks I'll keep that in mind.

kanina practice ako sa range w/ my glock open
pag uwi ko, nag load ako ng ammo for my std .40 gun for that match
after dinner, nag load naman ako ng 9mm maj for my open gun for the same match,
ang gulo talaga!
sino ba maysabi magaling tayo sa decision making?!
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here are some of my stages in Usec Puno Cup
bahala na po kayo humusga
thanks for viewing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVndVU7wcMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPDeVQ-iUDc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlOxI6vXPI
looks good PG. Waht sight are you using?
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Nice shooting Uncle PG !
Ganda itong thread, lot's to learn. I like the "Speed and Accuracy" as opposed to "Speed OR Accuracy", it's a lot better mindset to be shooting with. I've always thought that you compromise accuracy with speed but in fact you can have both. You would just have to be "aware" of where your sights are
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Love this thread.. may mga Valuable insights and advice. Ako... maybe this year.. balik standard na malapit na mabuo bro Ahts i'll post here pag.natapos na...

doing a bit of dry fire with the single stack. Balik training nanaman.. walang rifle shoot kasi eh :(
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Sandy post ka naman ng pics! :D Gawa ka ng new thread hehehe! I'm sure it will look awesome Wala pa akong nakitang baril mo na hinde awesome eh hehehe!!
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fafa A nice to hear your back.

last sat nsa eldrige kami clubshoot heres one of my stages ang boklog sa plato hehehe

http://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n...1298889636.mp4

next sat me practice sa eldrige tropa mga 2-3 pm sama ka fafa A

sir PG yup if merun ka sir, if wala makuha il use my g22-9 barrel have it sleeved by gunsmith to accomodate the comp.

another problem of mine is hoslter tsst tssk di k agad ito naisip
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sir PG gsto kna matapos open glock ko naiingit ako sayu eh.

nice shooting big Bro.

aths musta na
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looks good PG. Waht sight are you using?
CMore STS mounted on slide po.

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You would just have to be "aware" of where your sights are
Thanks Bro.

Dito ako nagkakaproblema sa Open ngayon. Being aware of the sights, sa std kasi this is physically seen. Sa open this is mental, makikita ko na lang red dot as it approaches the target. Pag minsan d ko makita sa approach, nagpapanic ako psychologically. But then the red dot eventually appears on target pero nadisturb na konti mindset ko.

Bro, CONGRATS for a very good finish sa MacMac, 9th overall Std div!

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fafa A nice to hear your back.

last sat nsa eldrige kami clubshoot heres one of my stages ang boklog sa plato hehehe

http://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n...1298889636.mp4

next sat me practice sa eldrige tropa mga 2-3 pm sama ka fafa A

sir PG yup if merun ka sir, if wala makuha il use my g22-9 barrel have it sleeved by gunsmith to accomodate the comp.

another problem of mine is hoslter tsst tssk di k agad ito naisip
bro, inggit ako how quickly and lightly you move from position to position. Pareho kayo ni Ahts, nimble and graceful/effortless. Me, pilit ang effort kaya marami kanto as seen by Allegra. But Im working on it.

wala ako longer barrel na.

Sa holster use a CR speed, no problem sa set up mo. Bawas ka konti materials sa area na tatamaan ng base ng mount then slope the upper end of the scallop para di magbind yung bottom edge ng mount sa holster body as you pull the gun up in a draw stroke.
eta: you can see a pic of this holster mod in B&B ent, home of carver mounts.
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fafa A nice to hear your back.

last sat nsa eldrige kami clubshoot heres one of my stages ang boklog sa plato hehehe

http://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n...1298889636.mp4

next sat me practice sa eldrige tropa mga 2-3 pm sama ka fafa A

sir PG yup if merun ka sir, if wala makuha il use my g22-9 barrel have it sleeved by gunsmith to accomodate the comp.

another problem of mine is hoslter tsst tssk di k agad ito naisip
baka nasa mala ako sa sat bro
Pero try ko humabol , magtuturo ba si andrew?
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CMore STS mounted on slide po.



Thanks Bro.

Dito ako nagkakaproblema sa Open ngayon. Being aware of the sights, sa std kasi this is physically seen. Sa open this is mental, makikita ko na lang red dot as it approaches the target. Pag minsan d ko makita sa approach, nagpapanic ako psychologically. But then the red dot eventually appears on target pero nadisturb na konti mindset ko.

Bro, CONGRATS for a very good finish sa MacMac, 9th overall Std div!



bro, inggit ako how quickly and lightly you move from position to position. Pareho kayo ni Ahts, nimble and graceful/effortless. Me, pilit ang effort kaya marami kanto as seen by Allegra. But Im working on it.

wala ako longer barrel na.

Sa holster use a CR speed, no problem sa set up mo. Bawas ka konti materials sa area na tatamaan ng base ng mount then slope the upper end of the scallop para di magbind yung bottom edge ng mount sa holster body as you pull the gun up in a draw stroke.
eta: you can see a pic of this holster mod in B&B ent, home of carver mounts.
Pards, I just based my observation on one video i saw of you
I could be mistaken
you just have to be your own worst critic and take a lot of vids of yourself
Kanto happens in getting in and out of position so you might want to take a look at that . Kung may kanto talaga ang galaw mo.
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Old 02-28-2011, 21:45   #100
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CMore STS mounted on slide po.



Thanks Bro.

Dito ako nagkakaproblema sa Open ngayon. Being aware of the sights, sa std kasi this is physically seen. Sa open this is mental, makikita ko na lang red dot as it approaches the target. Pag minsan d ko makita sa approach, nagpapanic ako psychologically. But then the red dot eventually appears on target pero nadisturb na konti mindset ko.

Bro, CONGRATS for a very good finish sa MacMac, 9th overall Std div!



bro, inggit ako how quickly and lightly you move from position to position. Pareho kayo ni Ahts, nimble and graceful/effortless. Me, pilit ang effort kaya marami kanto as seen by Allegra. But Im working on it.

wala ako longer barrel na.

Sa holster use a CR speed, no problem sa set up mo. Bawas ka konti materials sa area na tatamaan ng base ng mount then slope the upper end of the scallop para di magbind yung bottom edge ng mount sa holster body as you pull the gun up in a draw stroke.
eta: you can see a pic of this holster mod in B&B ent, home of carver mounts.

kuya PG cguro ksi malaki tyan kaya nimble tignan hahaha. i check the b & b sight yup tama ka , then il have to trim some part of my mount sir PG. post ko pagnatapos.

thanks sa inputs
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