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Old 12-10-2010, 14:19   #1
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BATFE approved bumpfire stock

Found this on another forum, haven't seen it posted here yet so I figured I'd share. Interesting, but not worth $300 to me.

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Old 12-10-2010, 14:36   #2
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Looks like the BATF deemed it illegal?

All you need is a rubber band, the post office ones are great. for holding mail of course.
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Old 12-10-2010, 14:40   #3
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$319, ouch and i thought magpul charged a arm and a leg
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Old 12-10-2010, 15:13   #4
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Looks like the BATF deemed it illegal?
They deemed Akins stock (for Ruger 10/22) illegal after approving it initially. This thing is different. With Akins all you need is to press the trigger. This thing doesn't have any moving parts, in addition to pressing the trigger you need to apply forward pressure on a forearm- the job that was done by a spring in Akins.

Itís a toy, and it doesnít look to be ambidextrous, but I like the ďselectorĒ feature which locks the rifle to the stock and allows for some practical use.
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:04   #5
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FA wanabes! Other then wasting ammo and looking cool whats the point! I see the AFT outlawing that as well a soon a some FA wanabe gangters kills some one using it!
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Old 12-11-2010, 04:29   #6
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They deemed Akins stock (for Ruger 10/22) illegal after approving it initially.........
My apologies,........need to work on reading comprehension.
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Old 12-11-2010, 06:06   #7
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I would buy one just for shiats and giggles if it wasnt insanely expensive....
But it would be fun to try....
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Old 12-11-2010, 08:52   #8
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I go through too much ammo in semi auto as it is.
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Old 12-11-2010, 15:56   #9
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I go through too much ammo in semi auto as it is.
I was going to say the same thing!!! Thats all I need is something that will make me spend even more money on ammo. It would be fun for a few days but trust me if you are not rich or dont have an ammo sponsor... f/a gets old real quick. .30 Think...cents a shot!

Plus didnt the Atkins stock get reniged by the BATFE a few years ago? Whats to stop them from renigging on this stock? No one got grandfathered so they all lost like $800 to $1000 on the Atkins deal I think? That being said I guess $300 aint bad?

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I was going to say the same thing!!! Thats all I need is something that will make me spend even more money on ammo. It would be fun for a few days but trust me if you are not rich or dont have an ammo sponsor... f/a gets old real quick. .30 Think...cents a shot!

Plus didnt the Atkins stock get reniged by the BATFE a few years ago? Whats to stop them from renigging on this stock? No one got grandfathered so they all lost like $800 to $1000 on the Atkins deal I think? That being said I guess $300 aint bad?
Even if you shoot Wolf it's about $6 for a 30 round magazine. On FA a 30 round magazine lasts a couple of seconds.

Only way I would shoot a full auto is if it was a .22LR.
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Old 12-11-2010, 18:46   #11
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Why not just bumpfire normally if you are into turning money into 2 seconds of smoke and noise?

Full auto is fun but not $319 worth of fun. A tax stamp is $200... for the real thing... just sayin...
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Plus didnt the Atkins stock get reniged by the BATFE a few years ago? Whats to stop them from renigging on this stock?
Just to be anal it's Akins, not Atkins. The diet is still legal per ATF There's more work required from the shooter to make this gizmo function so it might survive.

When ATF banned Akins Accelerator they requested the customers and manufacturer to surrender the springs, not the whole thing. They never outlawed the stock itself and this is precisely what the gizmo in question is: Akins minus the spring.
Hereís what I donít understand. If the receiver recoils within this stock-grip assembly what is it exactly that houses the safety spring plunger?

By the way. The Akinís saga is A) an example of dangers stemming from an unbridled government and B) the reason the elitist NRA wipes are not going to see a single red cent from me.
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Full auto is fun but not $319 worth of fun. A tax stamp is $200... for the real thing... just sayin...
Yeah, just $200 stamp...plus just another $15K for the thing itself... just sayin
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Old 12-11-2010, 19:07   #14
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Yeah, just $200 stamp...plus just another $15K for the thing itself... just sayin
Except in New York State, then it's just NO FRIGGIN' WAY you can have full auto, PERIOD.
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Yeah, just $200 stamp...plus just another $15K for the thing itself... just sayin
If you are going to play the full auto game... $15,000 is but a start. Ask the happy people at Knob Creek how much they spend to feed their habit?
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:32   #16
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Yeah, just $200 stamp...plus just another $15K for the thing itself... just sayin
EXACTLY.... What good is the ability to legally own FA when the other stupid law (no mfg of FA weapons for civilian use) is in place? Unless you have enough $$ to be able to throw down $15-20k on a weapon... Which is not many of us "normal" folk.. Bullshiat plain and simple..
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Old 12-12-2010, 13:37   #17
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Here’s what I don’t understand. If the receiver recoils within this stock-grip assembly what is it exactly that houses the safety spring plunger?
Been wondering that myself. Suppose you could tap the hole for a small set screw and shorten the spring, but I can't figure any other options out.

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Old 12-12-2010, 18:23   #18
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Full auto is fun but not $319 worth of fun. A tax stamp is $200... for the real thing... just sayin...
True, but the registered M16 to go with that tax stamp is a "extra" 13 grand ish...

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True, but the registered M16 to go with that tax stamp is a "extra" 13 grand ish...

A case of ammo is about $300+ per 1,000 for 5.56 and at full auto... you'll be blowing away a case every hour easy with generous rest periods between mag changes.

Anyway, I am just saying, those guys at Knob Creek certainly don't mind it and that's what it takes to play the full auto game.
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Old 12-16-2010, 17:08   #20
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Heck, I hardly even shoot my centerfire guns anymore what with ammo prices being so high. Sure as heck not going to spend $300+ to make it easier to waste more ammo.
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