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Old 12-14-2010, 06:11   #21
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Oh, gosh. I was afraid of that. Now I guess I will have to put on my shopping hat and go out there in the cold and get one. Oh, well ... (Tough job, but somebody has to do it, right? ... )

Seriously, thanks, guys, for the value of your experience. Now I am looking forward to a gun which is still light and easy to conceal, still has a great trigger, and is even more comfortable to shoot. I am already impressed with the LCR in .38, and expect to be even more so with the .357!



Oh wait ... uh ... I mean my wife, of course ... I know SHE will be happy with it ...
but ... I hope she will let me shoot it ... if she is in a good mood ...

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Old 12-28-2010, 16:05   #22
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A couple of quick questions.

First, have you had any issues trying to conceal the LCR with the Tamer grips, i.e., difficulty drawing from a pocket or your covering garment clinging to the grip?

Second, for those of you who own both the .38 and .357 LCRs, is there any difference in holster fit? Some of the holster makers I'm interested in getting holsters from only list the .38, but I'm leaning towards the .357.

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Old 12-29-2010, 18:39   #23
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Supersleuth, hope folks here will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the external dimensions are the same for both the .38 and the .357. The only noticeable difference seems to be that the metal part of the .357 frame is steel, where it is aluminum on the .38, making the 4 oz. difference in weight.

For me, I have had no difficulties concealing the Tamer grips when carrying, but usually carry with the laser-grips. The lasergrips are smaller than the Tamers, so they conceal just a little better, I guess. At the same time, they don't absorb recoil quite as well, but they still do a pretty good job with it.

There is a another small, more concealable grip available, included on a .38 model with a better front sight, or (I think) separately from Ruger. I imagine it would also not handle recoil quite as well as the Tamer, but on handling it in the shop it feels like it would still be fairly comfortable to shoot.
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Old 12-29-2010, 23:22   #24
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Thanks, dugo.
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Old 12-30-2010, 01:13   #25
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Eagle now makes a secret service Grip for the Ruger LCR that looks very nice..
http://www.eaglegrips.com/guns/Ruger-LCR-Grips.html
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Old 12-30-2010, 01:49   #26
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If I end up getting the LCR I will definitely be trying a set of those. I had a 642 with the Eagle Secret Service stocks and I really liked them.
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Old 01-01-2011, 21:39   #27
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I front pocket carry my .357 everyday and have minimal printing. I have no problem drawing with the Tamer grips and I use a Tuff Products Pocket-Roo holster that has never failed me. There is an extra pocket in the holster to carry a speed loader strip. But the pocket is too small for .357 ammo but fits .38 as it comes stock. I need to stretch it out or take out some stitching so I can fit in my .357s.
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Old 02-05-2011, 21:59   #28
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I just thought I'd add that the general concensus here is right about both versions. (Like others here I have both)

The .38 is 4 oz lighter at 13.5. It really feels featherweight. The 17.1 oz .357 does feel more hefty, but it's still a light gun. Consider a Glock 26 is 22 oz with empty mag and a Ruger Sp-101 empty with 2.25 in barrel is 25 oz.

The .38 does carry better. Low recoil ammo like non-hot 110-130 gr bullets have only moderate recoil. Hot, light bullets have a little more but are not hard to shoot fast and accuratly. But when you get to 158 +p bullets recoil is more severe and stings a bit. It will slow you down a little shot to shot. It's sweet to carry though!

The .357 has a little extra heft but it's only 2 oz heavier than an alluminum j-frame S&W. But it pays off when you shoot it! Low recoil .38's are a pleasure to shoot. Even the 158 gr +p TMJ Lawman rounds I fired gave only moderate recoil and I could shoot them all day. Not so with the LCR .38.

.357 cartridges were easier to shoot than I thought they would be. Fed hi-shok 125 gr SJHP's painfully smack the hand. Not as bad a Scanduim S&W which risk real hand injury, but they wear you out quick. They slow you down but are just managable with both hands on the gun. But it still hurts. With one hand follow ups are slow. I didn't like them. Big fireball, too.

180 gr .357 Fed hi-shoks SJHP's were easier than the 125's. Less painfull smack, but more push up the arm and more muzzle rise. The muzzle rise becomes the problem and slows down follow ups. Firing them support-side hand only it's laughable the time between rounds, that muzzle really noses up! Doesn't hurt like the 125's though. The 125's shoot low, the 180's high. Sights are regulated for middle weight ammo.

I've had no bullet pull with either gun with any load. I have only used jacket bullets. Both are very accurate. I'd like bigger sights like X/S Big dots. Triggers are nice.

In unscientific tests of my own all bullets expanded, even the 180 gr SJHP. (Which is probobly only getting @900 fps from the short barrel) Some 147gr Hydra shoks shed some jacket even, but largely still held together.

My carry loads for both of these guns is the Federal 147 gr +p+ .38 Hydrashok. Shoots to point of aim, penetrates and has a fair chance of expansion with it's @900 fps velocity. Recoil is the heaviest of all the .38's I've fired. Not a big deal in the .357 but it snaps in the .38. Muzzle flash isn't an issue but I haven't fired them in really low light yet.

Sorry for the long post but thats been my experience with these pocket/backup guns. I highly reccomend them!

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Old 03-22-2011, 07:48   #29
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I have at least Ten box's of 147G +P+ 38 Hydra shock. Do you think this is a good defense load for a 2" gun? Have you herd of any shootings with it?
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Old 03-30-2011, 23:10   #30
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I have at least Ten box's of 147G +P+ 38 Hydra shock. Do you think this is a good defense load for a 2" gun? Have you herd of any shootings with it?
I tested it in low light and checked expansion in water jugs.

I like it and keep it in the LCR .38. It expanded fine in my water jug test and hardly shed any jacket peices. It doesn't expand much mind you so it penetrates deep which is exactly what I want.

It does the most recoil of anything I've fired in the LCR .38 but it's not bad.

The only downside to it is it does not use low-flash powder so it makes a medium sized yellow/orange flash at night. Maybe intimidation for the BG getting shot at but bad for your night vision.

I think it's a great load, carry them!

As for shootings it was the load for a few federal agencies so I'm sure it's been in plenty of shootings. It's just a bullet and a handgun bullet at that not Thors hammer so plan accordingly!
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Old 04-09-2011, 19:07   #31
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Does anyone have a Ruger LCR in .357 with the "secret service" grips?

Also, does Criminson Trace make grips for the LCR .357? Anyone have these and like them.

I have a SW 642 with CT grips and like it.

I recently got a LCR .357 and am "grip shopping".

Open to any suggestions or comments.

I pocket carry it in a holster.
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Old 04-09-2011, 19:28   #32
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I traded my LCR .38 last week for a hammerless SP 101. Too snappy for me with +P. I like the extra weight of the SP 101. I also carry a LCP which is point and shoot. The LCR just wasn't working for me. Still a RUGER fan though, and waiting to get my hands on an LC9.
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Old 04-22-2011, 02:21   #33
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Personally, If I trade my LCR in .38 for an LCR in .357, Im gonna carry .357 loads in it for self defense. Doesnt make much sense to me to carry .38 loads in a .357

In a self defense situation, you wont notice recoil or probably even muzzle blast.

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Old 04-22-2011, 14:14   #34
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In a self defense situation, you wont notice recoil or probably even muzzle blast.
Do you think you'd notice it when you are practicing with your carry load?
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:15   #35
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With proper dry fire practice (using a laser) and practicing with lighter. 38's I will be very familiar with the weapon. Then when I train with full magnum loads I can do so more proficiently. Hopefully that means shooting less with full magnum loads.

Magnum loads may not be comfortable, but it is very comforting knowing you have a proven high stopping power load to defend your life with.

Check out some of the videos on youtube, there are a lot of proficient shooters on there that have no problem with the LCR in full power 357 loads.

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Old 04-25-2011, 17:27   #36
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125G JHP were no problem for my Friend and I when we bought ours. We all so tried a few Corbon DPX 357 rounds that were very controllable.
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Old 07-10-2012, 13:35   #37
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I did some testing on follow up shots with the .357 and the .38 and the results are here: http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...5#post19181745
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Old 07-10-2012, 14:32   #38
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Call me a Wuss, boys. The 158s in a SP-101 are barely manageable for me. After I've shot it, my scores go down for a couple of weeks afterwards, with my other guns. It takes a while to get them back where they belong.

I'll try some of the 125s in it. With the Hogue's, it may not be too bad.
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Old 07-10-2012, 15:03   #39
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Call me a Wuss, boys. The 158s in a SP-101 are barely manageable for me. After I've shot it, my scores go down for a couple of weeks afterwards, with my other guns. It takes a while to get them back where they belong.

I'll try some of the 125s in it. With the Hogue's, it may not be too bad.
I don't like 158G. The 125G are better as far as recoil goes. I can shoot hotter loads out of my LCR357 than the SP101. I think it's the Tamer Grips on the LCR that help.
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