[DoctaGlockta]

In the past I have fasted for as long as a week. That was no food for a week. I did however drink watered down fruit juice and did 'eat' chicken and beef broth.

I must have had a bad brat or something on Memorial Day so I've been ill the past two days and haven't eaten. I think I'm going to go a week again and see how I do. Any calories I get will be from watered down fruit juice or bullion.

After the week I'm going to hit a SHTF diet of rice, beans and some scraps of meat and vegetables. Will pull the odd 'treat' out of my food stores but I'm going to keep it simple.

I'll keep my daily routine of work and exercising the same to keep my physical activity up.

Might as well see if I can do it now.

Will keep you posted.

If you have done the same or similar let us know.

[cyrsequipment]

Thanks for sharing, if I might ask...

What is your normal caloric intake?

I am debating on doing the same thing, just to use the opportunity to reset my appetite and start eating a lot healthier than I do now.

[rilkil23]

The bad brat part seems horrible but I am interested to see how you do. Energy level, mood, attention span, and so on. Good luck.

[G29Reload]

Yes. earlier this year.

I was gonna pull out 1/12 of my supplies and see if I could last a month.

On a pro-rata basis, i was fine. I was ok on half what I pulled out, for two weeks.

I gave it up and went back to normal at 2 weeks. I know I'll make it cause calorie wise I did fine and wasn't hungry or anything, but there was some monotony.

Monotony I probably won't notice in a real SHTF. It also seemed to be starch heavy, though that's what stores best. I did make some adjustments to my stores.

I do have canned meats, but heavy subsistence on them is only for life and death emergencies. SPAM may be calorie rich but its also fatty, greasy and loaded with nitrates.

I also wanted to go back to eating lots of fresh veggies. Canned will work, but nothing like fresh.

In a true SHTF/TEOTWAWKI, I would still be living like a king. and I have enough.

[DoctaGlockta]

Originally Posted by cyrsequipment

Thanks for sharing, if I might ask...

What is your normal caloric intake?

I am debating on doing the same thing, just to use the opportunity to reset my appetite and start eating a lot healthier than I do now.

I'm not sure of my average caloric intake. If I were to guess it would be 2000-2500 calories. I don't eat breakfast, sometimes a small lunch if any and then a normal dinner. Sometimes a late snack.

I understand your reasoning for wanting to fast. I have used the same in the past. It does flush out your system. Tea has helped out in the past as well.

I recommend you do it. It gives one a far greater appreciation for food as well. After a few days you will be amazed at the reduction in cravings you have and you wonder why you ate so much in the past.

First couple of days are the toughest. Drink fluids, take something for your headaches that you most likely will get. Do the watered down fruit juice thing and the bullion - it will help.

I'm near the end of day two and feel pretty good.

Good luck.

[Dexters]

Several things you should consider during these test:
1 - take vitamins & minerals - that you should do normally
2 - have something available for constipation
3 - be aware of your water intake - don't drink less & don't drink too much you will deplete your electrolytes
4 - salt

[DoctaGlockta]

Originally Posted by G29Reload

Yes. earlier this year.

I was gonna pull out 1/12 of my supplies and see if I could last a month.

On a pro-rata basis, i was fine. I was ok on half what I pulled out, for two weeks.

I gave it up and went back to normal at 2 weeks. I know I'll make it cause calorie wise I did fine and wasn't hungry or anything, but there was some monotony.

Monotony I probably won't notice in a real SHTF. It also seemed to be starch heavy, though that's what stores best. I did make some adjustments to my stores.

I do have canned meats, but heavy subsistence on them is only for life and death emergencies. SPAM may be calorie rich but its also fatty, greasy and loaded with nitrates.

I also wanted to go back to eating lots of fresh veggies. Canned will work, but nothing like fresh.

In a true SHTF/TEOTWAWKI, I would still be living like a king. and I have enough.

Do you mind sharing what caused the monotony and what changes did you make to your stores?

[G29Reload]

Originally Posted by DoctaGlockta

Do you mind sharing what caused the monotony and what changes did you make to your stores?

Probably the leaning towards bulk sizes, and apportioning meal sized lots of said bulk, but more importantly storing it long enough to its coming around again in rotation.

And just that there is an overwhelming variety in my regular daily diet, and practical space considerations prevent me from re-creating that variety in storage.

And that the most brutal, calorie intensive part of the year is the cold, chilly freezing winter when food will mostly be cooked, and that cooking hot meals in the portion of the year I was running the experiment in wasn't big on that. (IE, warmer weather isn't when I'd heat up the kitchen baking biscuits)

That's ok, really because in summer if a SHTF was unfolding, warm weather would give me more freedom of movement to hunt small game and cook it outdoors over a fire, and garden some.

Winter, you're indoors hunkered down trying to stay warm hence the heavier cooking ration, hot foods. Freezing cold, you're willing to eat about anything.

You would heat up a can of ravioli in winter, in summer, not so much. Same for pasta generally, how much spaghetti do you eat in summer vs winter? Winter, most of it hands down.

Dealing with it, mostly expanding canned veggies. Its so easy to store canned meat and starch, and when you eat them, yea! yummy! I'm full! need nap…

But that's not really healthy…you need greens, veggies. You don't want to survive the apocalypse only to die of colon cancer. That would totally suck.

[Bolster]

I am doing a "lite" version of a test, it entails lunch being "prep" foods. Almost every lunch is lentils and rice, and I'm learning a variety of ways of making them, figuring out what spices & etc to store.

[Stevekozak]

What do you do for employment? I would have to be on vacation to attempt this. I would be crapping my pants the first day of this diet/fast , which would not be conducive to staying employed.

[kirgi08]

Spices folks,make a huge difference.'08.

[G29Reload]

Originally Posted by kirgi08

Spices folks,make a huge difference.'08.

Yeah, but not much.

I stock

garlic powder
crushed red pepper
curry
cumin
salt
pepper
onion powder

by the pound and numerous others.

Didn't change the situation I described. They make life more pleasant, sure, but not game changers. Important to be sure.

[G29Reload]

Originally Posted by Stevekozak

What do you do for employment? .

Home between consulting gigs. Made it easy.

[kirgi08]

Originally Posted by G29Reload

Yeah, but not much.

I stock

garlic powder
crushed red pepper
curry
cumin
salt
pepper
onion powder

by the pound and numerous others.

Didn't change the situation I described. They make life more pleasant, sure, but not game changers. Important to be sure.

How much do you grow.'08.

[Bushflyr]

Not exactly SHTF stores, but we have done 100% locovore weekends. From things that we either grew or were grown in our area and that we can grow. Which is what we'd be eating if the SHTF anyway.

It's extremely light on carbs, no wheat, rice, or beans. Lot of fruit and greens. Tilapia from my pond, papaya (both ripe and green), taro, okinawan sweet potato, beets, chicken (feral, my dog caught it, so I cooked it.) avocado, guava, banana, lemon, lime, tangelo, oranges, watercress. For spices, we have lemon grass, papaya seed, sea salt, a couple different chilis, rosemary, basil, and a couple others I forget.

3 months of food in the closet is fine, but forever food in the garden is better.

Dog caught chicken dinner. (Ferals are pretty scrawny) With Choy Sum, and Okinawan sweet potato. (They really are that purple)

[G29Reload]

Originally Posted by kirgi08

How much do you grow.'08.

Just got the garden started, raised bed.

Onions
Rosemary
Basil
Parsley
Jalapeno Peppers

My biggest canned production is for the basil. I grow a metric s#$load of it, then make it into pesto, pack it in empty mustard and spice jars and freeze it.

Plus I'm doing

Beauregard sweet potatoes (should yield about 60 lbs on the small batch I'm growing)
Fajita Bell peppers (mildly spicy)
Sweet bell peppers
German princess heirloom tomatoes (slicers)
cherry tomatoes
Cucumbers (excess will be pickled)

[cyrsequipment]

Well I started last night as well (although I forgot this morning and had a bit of cheese that I was packing in my kids lunchbox).

I am going to not be as intense as the OP and just drink gatorade (sometimes mixed with fiber powder because my cholesterol is another reason I am doing this), tea and other liquids and multivitamins.

I am not hopeful that I will last too awful long but maybe I can adjust my appetite so that I will be able to resist eating 10,000 calories a day in chips and grease...

[DoctaGlockta]

Originally Posted by cyrsequipment

Well I started last night as well (although I forgot this morning and had a bit of cheese that I was packing in my kids lunchbox).

I am going to not be as intense as the OP and just drink gatorade (sometimes mixed with fiber powder because my cholesterol is another reason I am doing this), tea and other liquids and multivitamins.

I am not hopeful that I will last too awful long but maybe I can adjust my appetite so that I will be able to resist eating 10,000 calories a day in chips and grease...

Good luck.

I'm on the morning of day 3. Little light headed this morning but went for my usual run. I was dragging my ass but I was pushing a running stroller. Still feeling the repercussions of the bad brat on Mem day or perhaps a intestinal bug. No muscle weakness or pain. No hunger pains. And similar to the last time I did this cravings for food are almost non existent. It is amazing how your body reacts to no food. Have lost 6 lbs since the last time I weighed my self before the weekend.

[DrSticky]

Originally Posted by Bushflyr

Dog caught chicken dinner. (Ferals are pretty scrawny) With Choy Sum, and Okinawan sweet potato. (They really are that purple)

I think this brings up a big ethical question. Did you give your dog some?

[DoctaGlockta]

Originally Posted by Bushflyr

Not exactly SHTF stores, but we have done 100% locovore weekends. From things that we either grew or were grown in our area and that we can grow. Which is what we'd be eating if the SHTF anyway.

It's extremely light on carbs, no wheat, rice, or beans. Lot of fruit and greens. Tilapia from my pond, papaya (both ripe and green), taro, okinawan sweet potato, beets, chicken (feral, my dog caught it, so I cooked it.) avocado, guava, banana, lemon, lime, tangelo, oranges, watercress. For spices, we have lemon grass, papaya seed, sea salt, a couple different chilis, rosemary, basil, and a couple others I forget.

3 months of food in the closet is fine, but forever food in the garden is better.

Dog caught chicken dinner. (Ferals are pretty scrawny) With Choy Sum, and Okinawan sweet potato. (They really are that purple)

Posting a photo like that in a thread where a few guys are going without food for days

Looks delicious btw.

[Bilbo Bagins]

Look up the Survivor Diet.

You eat a small cup sized portion of beans and rice, and add anything you can find or catch. Basically your diet will consist of fish that you caught, if you are lucky any other meat you can find, along with fresh picked fruit & greens. They do it for 40 days but add a weekly "reward" Pig out binge meal.

http://www.survivordietchallenge.com...challenge.html


I did something similar this weekend hiking. I ate mostly Mountain House for dinner, and one breakfast. The other breakfast was 2 packets of Oatmeal and poptarts, with coffee. My lunches were on the move with Cliff bars, jerky, and trail mix.

I try to weigh myself on a regular basis , every morning before I jump in the shower. My first weigh in post trip, after hiking 60 miles up and down mountains, and I actually gained a pound.

[Glock30Eric]

Originally Posted by Bushflyr

Not exactly SHTF stores, but we have done 100% locovore weekends. From things that we either grew or were grown in our area and that we can grow. Which is what we'd be eating if the SHTF anyway.

It's extremely light on carbs, no wheat, rice, or beans. Lot of fruit and greens. Tilapia from my pond, papaya (both ripe and green), taro, okinawan sweet potato, beets, chicken (feral, my dog caught it, so I cooked it.) avocado, guava, banana, lemon, lime, tangelo, oranges, watercress. For spices, we have lemon grass, papaya seed, sea salt, a couple different chilis, rosemary, basil, and a couple others I forget.

3 months of food in the closet is fine, but forever food in the garden is better.

Dog caught chicken dinner. (Ferals are pretty scrawny) With Choy Sum, and Okinawan sweet potato. (They really are that purple)

Cheers! That's the paleo diet!! Yummy!

[Mr.Pliskin]

Whats this rice and beans thing

Breakfast: Pancakes with Brown sugar syrup and re hydrated hash browns

Lunch: noodles and tuna

Dinner: Canned chicken with Parmesan and spices on home made wheat tortillas.

Desert: Rice with with reydrated milk, cinnamon and sugar

I think this SHTF week shouldnt be too hard.

[Bilbo Bagins]

Originally Posted by Mr.Pliskin

Whats this rice and beans thing

Breakfast: Pancakes with Brown sugar syrup and re hydrated hash browns

Lunch: noodles and tuna

Dinner: Canned chicken with Parmesan and spices on home made wheat tortillas.

Desert: Rice with with reydrated milk, cinnamon and sugar

I think this SHTF week shouldnt be too hard.

Some preppers have a hard on for beans and rice, since you can buy it in bulk and store it in a 5 gallon bucket. Like you, I treat it like a supplement not a staple

When its the EOTW and all the preppers are eating there stored beans and rice, life will stink in more ways then one.

[G29Reload]

Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

When its the EOTW and all the preppers are eating there stored beans and rice, life will stink in more ways then one.

Not really. If cooked properly and eaten regularly, that myth dies.

Rice and beans is good way to fill your belly. If it was game on and everyone else is starving, having a plateful of rice and beans would be a tasty relief. All you need is salt or hot sauce, easily storable in quantity. Carb energy, plant protein, easily storable, cheap.

Yes it pays to have more, but its a good mainstay.