["Cold Dead Hands" !]

Great thread BAC !

One experts opinion on all of those fine guns, eliminates a lot of variables from too many opinions.
Should be a big help for those wanting one from that list.
CZ's look like a great value.

I'd like to see you rate all the 1911's, and also compare them to the best in this list.

Best do it soon before the newly re-elected communist Obama administration is talking about banning semi auto guns, and he now knows what you got !

["Cold Dead Hands" !]

Originally Posted by ET.

Shoot, I can do that. Sorry I don't have the pictures though, but here goes...

My Hi-Point is a Jennings clone and a darn good one if you ask me. I like the way it doesn't fit in my hand. But when I compare it to my S&W Sigma I can tell that the Sigma is cheap and built to stay that way. I can't hit the broad side of a barn with it because the 12 lbs. trigger pull requires me to squeeze so hard it ends up aimed at the sky or the guy next to me at the range. He rated it a 4, at least that is how many knuckles I saw coming at me right before I passed out.

So...do I get a sticky also?

Were not talking Custom Guns in this thread.
.....customized by a gang banger.

[25pd]

Great Post ....but where do the Glocks. fall into the Mix ?????

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by 25pd

Great Post ....but where do the Glocks. fall into the Mix ?????

Thanks.

I guess that would depend on your preference. I personally don't shoot Glocks particularly well.

[Rinspeed]

[bac1023]

Very nice, Jeff

I'm glad you like your X-Five.

[Rinspeed]

It's no surprise that you have the X-5 rated so high compared to all those other great pistols. It's truely a magnificent piece.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by Rinspeed

It's no surprise that you have the X-5 rated so high compared to all those other great pistols. It's truely a magnificent piece.

It certainly is.

[aircarver]

The only one of the collection that I own is the P88, and I agree with the rating you gave it.

One gun that I feel would have been worthy of inclusion as a 'range gun' ('cuz it's too big for carry...
is the CZ-97. It's my favorite (range) .45. I shoot it better than my P-220 Sig or my 1911 Colt.

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[bac1023]

Originally Posted by aircarver

The only one of the collection that I own is the P88, and I agree with the rating you gave it.

One gun that I feel would have been worthy of inclusion as a 'range gun' ('cuz it's too big for carry...
is the CZ-97. It's my favorite (range) .45. I shoot it better than my P-220 Sig or my 1911 Colt.

.

I'm actually not even sure I owned my CZ-97 when I posted this. I'll have to check.

That said, it is certainly a very well built and accurate pistol. It it were a bit smaller and lighter, it would have been very popular.

[Pier23]

Sadly, I have none of these....

Originally Posted by bac1023

While a thread like this takes a great deal of time and energy, I thought I'd share my opinions on some higher end range/target pistols, in case somebody is in the market for one. The PMs I gotten over time suggest that there are quite a few people here who appreciate guns like the models in this thread.

Some of these are strictly target/competition pistols, but some others are/were not actually intended for that purpose. However, I feel their overall quality and capabilities make them superb range guns.

While most of these are no longer produced, most are also readily available on the used market. A few of these are still built today, in an age where heavy metal, high quality pistols are fewer and farther between.

I'll also state the obvious and say the following is merely one man's opinion, not fact. I'm going to state some useful facts, such as composition, weight, and action type, but this body of work is based solely on my experience and preferences. Its also limited to my collection, so if your favorite pistol isn't listed, I either don't own it or don't feel it performs in the same class as the others in my hands. Fair enough?

The last thing to mention before starting, is that there are absolutely no 1911s in this test. Many of you know I'm an avid 1911 collector and I've said many times that its my favorite pistol. However, I post plenty about them already. For the sake of this work, they are watching from the sidelines.

The players here are as follows, and I'm going to group them a couple different ways:

First by caliber.


9mm:

Sig X-Five L1
Sig P210-6
Pardini GT-9
S&W PC952
Sphinx Competitor
HK P7M8
Benelli B76
MAB PA-15
Walther P88
Browning HP Competition


40S&W:

HK P7M10
CZ 75 Champion
Beretta 96 Steel I


45ACP:

HK Mark 23
S&W PC945


38 Special:

S&W 52


38 Super:

Tanfoglio Limited



Now by intended purpose.


Race/Competition/Target:

Sig Sauer X-Five L1
Pardini GT-9
Sphinx Competitor
Browning HP Competition
Tanfoglio Limited
S&W 52
CZ 75 Champion


Military/Service:

HK P7M8
Benelli B76
MAB PA-15
Walther P88
HK P7M10
HK Mark 23


Somewhere between:

Sig P210-6
S&W PC952
Beretta 96 Steel I
S&W PC945


Since I'm rating these as range guns, obviously some have a distinct advantage, but I'll get started. All ratings use a 1 to 10 scale, with 10 being the best.

I'll start with 9mms, which is my favorite range caliber.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by Pier23

Sadly, I have none of these....

You have to start somewhere.