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Old 02-06-2015, 17:10   #1
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PA Permit Holder Victim Fatally Shoots Toy Gun-Wielding Suspect

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POLICE: ATTEMPTED ROBBERY VICTIM FATALLY SHOOTS TOY GUN-WIELDING SUSPECT IN UPPER DARBY
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Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:18PM

UPPER DARBY, Pa. (WPVI) -- Police say a man fatally shot a pellet gun-wielding suspect during an attempted robbery in Upper Darby.

The incident occurred around 2:00 p.m. Wednesday in Cobbs Creek Park near the 6700 block of Church Lane.

Sources say the suspected robber has been identified as 18-year-old Tyler Williams of West Philadelphia.

Investigators say a 67-year-old man was walking on a path when the suspect ran up and demanded cash.

"He hears somebody running behind him. As he turns around, he sees a masked man with a gun pointed at him saying, 'Give it up, give me all you got," said Supt. Michael Chitwood, Upper Darby Township Police.

However the intended victim grabbed the suspect's gun.

During the struggle, police say the victim pulled out his own weapon and fired one shot striking the attempted robber in the head, killing him.

The victim does have a concealed weapons permit.
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Old 02-06-2015, 17:19   #2
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Police: Attempted Robbery Victim Shoots, Kills Alleged Suspect In Upper Darby
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“Guy pulled what he thought was a real gun on him, demanded his money and there was a struggle, a fight for the gun, and he pulled his gun out and shot the guy,” said Superintendent Chitwood.

Police say the robbery suspect who ended up fatally shot in the head is 18-year-old Tyler Williams from West Philadelphia.

He had no prior criminal history and was carrying a metal pellet gun that looked like a semi-automatic pistol, according to police.

“Dealt with the family last night, and obviously it’s an 18-year-old son that’s dead, but they were very cooperative,” said Chitwood.

The victim didn’t want to talk to Eyewitness News today but Chitwood says he feels sad.

“He was very remorseful and wish it hadn’t happened and I and other detectives told him you did nothing wrong,” said Chitwood.

People in the community agree.

“It was self defense so I can understand it.”
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Old 02-06-2015, 17:32   #3
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Something about playing stupid games?
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You don't want to mess with the old guys. Most of them have been through the **** and they aren't going to take any **** from some punk.
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Never pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he will kill you.
What an idiot 18 year of p.o.s.
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Something about playing stupid games?
And about bringing a toy gun to a gun fight.
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You don't want to mess with the old guys. Most of them have been through the **** and they aren't going to take any **** from some punk.
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Old 02-07-2015, 18:51   #8
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ActionNews6 actually got the victim and suspect labeled correctly! I think I need to sit down. Glad the victim was armed and able to defend himself. A pellet gun is a gun and a properly placed shot by dumb luck or precision aim can be deadly. Armed robber shot in self defense. Perfect outcome.
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Old 02-07-2015, 19:04   #9
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Well, he asked him to "Give it up, give me all you got," and so the old man let him have it.
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Something about playing stupid games?

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Old 02-07-2015, 20:21   #11
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Like we all say, don't mess with the Old Guys. We are ARMED.
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Often old guys get to being old by being at least as or (alot) more intelligent than those around them.
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If it looks like a gun it deserves a serious response.

Good for the old man.

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Often old guys get to being old by being at least as or (alot) more intelligent than those around them.
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The kid got what he deserved. Leave us senior citizens alone!
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And about bringing a toy gun to a gun fight.

It wasn't a toy, it was a pellet gun. Depending on the make/model pellet guns can potentially be lethal.

From my perspective, the victim can justifiably claim that he was in fear for his life, EVEN IF he knew it was a pellet gun.
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He had no prior criminal history and was carrying a metal pellet gun that looked like a semi-automatic pistol, according to police.
Nice, stopped a future criminal career, protected the public from his new choice of profession, and did so at the least cost to the tax payers. Fantastic job.
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It wasn't a toy, it was a pellet gun. Depending on the make/model pellet guns can potentially be lethal.

From my perspective, the victim can justifiably claim that he was in fear for his life, EVEN IF he knew it was a pellet gun.
Pellet guns can penetrate a person's neck quite easily.
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I know this area quite well and its bad.. right on the border of phila..
infact the first upper darby cop was killed close by the same place 13 years ago..

glad the old guy came out ahead.
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