California gen 4 question? - Page 2

TRX450R_Racer · 02-16-2010, 05:59

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Originally Posted by bentbiker

Your high temp today was 28? Ours had the numbers transposed -- 82. Not trying to convince you of anything -- just answering your question.

Yea well you can come to South Florida and have the best of both worlds. Great climate and the first state to become a shall issue state!!!

BadAndy · 02-16-2010, 10:19

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Originally Posted by GLOCK MONSTER

i asked the same question from 2 local gunshop owners here in san francisco , and the both had said the same thing that there iz a ban hold on them due to the double coil spring . But of the store owners had contacted a glock rep. And said that it waz goin through some court issues and that the gen 4 should be available in california somewhere late april or in may hopefully .

Off topic but is really that difficult to use the correct letter in those words? You used "s" in several other words so your "s" key obviously works.

GLOCK MONSTER · 02-16-2010, 11:58

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Originally Posted by badandy

off topic but is really that difficult to use the correct letter in those words? You used "s" in several other words so your "s" key obviously works.

daaaaaam didn`t know that the majority of people up in here iz like the forum police !!! So what if i like 2 use "z" on some wordz i use ! Whatz gonna happen i`ma get banned for puttin "z" on some wordz i use ? Daaaam yall people are killin me !

BadAndy · 02-16-2010, 12:45

You won't get banned but it's hard to take someone serious that intentionally misspells words. It makes you look illiterate.

Bowtie · 02-16-2010, 13:08

People might take you more serious if you lose the ebonics.

Giggity-Giggity · 02-16-2010, 13:19

Just picked one up in my local shop...in TX.

LORD have mercy on Kali.

Thrillhouse700 · 02-16-2010, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Bowtie

Things were screwed up before the governator took over..

He sure didn't help.

Bowtie · 02-16-2010, 21:51

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Originally Posted by Thrillhouse700

He sure didn't help.

Thats for damn sure..

KaTooM · 02-16-2010, 21:56

Well it was 80F today and the Glock Gen 4 is not on the Roster...

It's a love hate thing...

Glock rep(just gossip) at the shot show said they have submitted an example of the gen 4 for the roster.

Bobshouse · 02-16-2010, 22:36

The thing I don't understand about the California "approved" roster is, why or how do the guns turn "unapproved" after 2 years and fall off the roster? Do they go sour like milk or what?

Surely it couldn't be a money thing, cause I know our government here cares about our health and wellbeing.

bentbiker · 02-17-2010, 00:15

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Originally Posted by Bobshouse

The thing I don't understand about the California "approved" roster is, why or how do the guns turn "unapproved" after 2 years and fall off the roster?

They don't. The Gen3 G17/22 are approved because they were tested before the requirement for a magazine safety. If the DOJ doesn't accept Glock's petition to consider the Gen4 the same gun, then it has to meet the new criteria. In that case, the Gen4 couldn't be sold in CA but the Gen3 wouldn't be "unapproved".

Bobshouse · 02-17-2010, 06:53

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Originally Posted by bentbiker

They don't. The Gen3 G17/22 are approved because they were tested before the requirement for a magazine safety. If the DOJ doesn't accept Glock's petition to consider the Gen4 the same gun, then it has to meet the new criteria. In that case, the Gen4 couldn't be sold in CA but the Gen3 wouldn't be "unapproved".

Yes it would...it would fall off the roster on it's expiration date, unless Glock forks up the cash to have it "retested" and "rerostered"...

Larry V · 02-17-2010, 07:37

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Originally Posted by bentbiker

Your high temp today was 28? Ours had the numbers transposed -- 82. Not trying to convince you of anything -- just answering your question.

I hate the cold , I will admit that, But Gun laws,High taxes, Illegal Immagration, ect. , No thanks, I'll stay here and freeze i guess!!!

richie3888 · 07-14-2010, 16:07

It seems like the gen 4 will never get here

tx787 · 07-14-2010, 17:21

It never will because new guns for the CA roster must have magazine disconnect locks (sometimes called safeties).

MB-G17 · 02-09-2012, 16:13

The best store in the bay area I've been to is Canyon Sports in Martinez. Very friendly staff and impressive inventory. I just bought a Glock from them and be coming back often.
http://www.canyon-sports.com/

Aquagear · 02-09-2012, 16:39

I used to live in California, I now reside in Sparks Nevada. It is amazing how things change when you cross that imaginary line they call the border, it is a different world up here.

F106 Fan · 02-09-2012, 16:41

The reason that the Gen 4s can't come in is that they lack the magazine disconnect. Simple as that. Neither can the XDm although the XD was listed before the disconnect requirement so it's ok.

Guns that were previously approved can stay approved. All the manufacturer has to do is pay the renewal fee. If this wasn't the case, all the 1911's would have dropped off long ago. Obviously, they haven't. I just picked up my Sig 1911 today.

However, I did note that a few hundred guns dropped off the list at the end of 2011. There's a list that shows up when you Google for 'california approved firearms':
http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

Look at the link on the bottom of the page for the guns that are no longer approved.

It is worth using Google to look for 'single shot exemption'. You will find, among other links:
http://www.directactionsolutions.net...n-explanation/

I think there is a lawsuit wandering around challenging the idea that the state can require special features or declare guns unsafe after they have been accepted by the BATFE. I have only heard rumors and I don't know anything about it. CalGuns.net might know more.

Richard

zerotonothing · 02-09-2012, 16:55

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Originally Posted by TRX450R_Racer

Why aren't they legal in CA?

Because everything that "they" don't want you to have is illegal in California.

FourXFour · 02-09-2012, 17:10

Plenty of gen 4 Glocks are legal to purchase through the single shot exemption. You may pay a premium for the hassle, but it is worth it to some.

Try Valkyrie Arms in Milpitas. They are one of the cooler gun shops in the bay area. They manufacture their own lowers and have a pretty good AK smith in house.

Glock Authority · 02-09-2012, 22:02

I know I live in a pretty pathetic state, but California takes the cake. The only thing that state has going for it anymore is the weather.

Bowtie · 02-09-2012, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Glock Authority

I know I live in a pretty pathetic state, but California takes the cake. The only thing that state has going for it anymore is the weather.

I'm not going to point fingers but there are states in the US that have it worse..

Glock Authority · 02-09-2012, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Bowtie

I'm not going to point fingers but there are states in the US that have it worse..

I agree with you 100%. I was born in CA and actually I think it is Gods country, but it is getting pretty ridiculous with all the BS laws, let alone the cost to live there.

21/4life · 02-09-2012, 22:20

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Originally Posted by Thrillhouse700

Yeah like how our state is bankrupt and how the terminator destroyed a once awesome place to live. I'm tempted more and more everyday to take off to AZ. Closer to the River and Glamis, yet still close enough to visit friends and family.

Its the liberal legislature that is killing this State, and now we have Moonbeam who wants yo raise taxes again.

No magazine disconnect no Kali approval! Gen 3 is better anyway.

Bowtie · 02-09-2012, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Glock Authority

I agree with you 100%. I was born in CA and actually I think it is Gods country, but it is getting pretty ridiculous with all the BS laws, let alone the cost to live there.

I agree with you...But even our crazy gun laws aren't as bad as some..Don't even get me started on the cost to live here..Its insane.