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12-28-2012, 15:13
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Originally Posted by rustytxrx
Good Luck, the last few bad guys I recall had full body armor and ARs. Are you guys watching the same news I am?
I think the bad guys have been doing their research and they are coming up with better ideas then the BWP theory.
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In that case i'm going for shot placement, because it wont much matter which pistol cartridge you've got, and crossbreed doesnt seem to have a supertuck to fit my AR
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12-28-2012, 18:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rustytxrx
Good Luck, the last few bad guys I recall had full body armor and ARs. Are you guys watching the same news I am?
I think the bad guys have been doing their research and they are coming up with better ideas then the BWP theory.
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Body armor does not make them invinsible even if they think they are. Unless they can rap their arms, hands, legs and face with kevlar thay can still be stopped.
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12-28-2012, 18:58
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Originally Posted by RichardB
Does anybody know if a 30-30 works against body armor? ( I'm an old guy who still gets spastic at the thought of owning or using an M-16 or variant.)
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Yes, unless the vest is rated for rifle (plate inserts).
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12-28-2012, 19:50
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Uz2, in the playlike world of combat against paper and steel you soon figure out the guys beating you, are out thinking you. They are 5 or 6 moves ahead of you
You might do well at the games.
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12-28-2012, 20:06
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Originally Posted by rustytxrx
Uz2, in the playlike world of combat against paper and steel you soon figure out the guys beating you, are out thinking you. They are 5 or 6 moves ahead of you
You might do well at the games.
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Rusty, I would respond to this but I'm not sure I even know what it means. Sorry, not being rude, just don't know how I should takes this.
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12-28-2012, 22:02
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I'll do a full write up one of these days about this video but I figured I'd share now since the 357 SIG seems to be a hot topic...
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12-28-2012, 22:51
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Edited to include following information.
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Last edited by unit1069; 12-29-2012 at 01:44..
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12-29-2012, 01:42
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Originally Posted by unit1069
The Gold Dot's expansion in this video isn't what it normally produces but who can quibble with the penetration and energy? This, for example.I'm still on the fence with the new clear gel but all-in-all it seems to be the equivalent of accepted test media.
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12-29-2012, 14:34
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I'd bet that ammo is hard to find for the .357SIG.
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12-29-2012, 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
I'd bet that ammo is hard to find for the .357SIG.
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Underwood has it by the case!
The 357 Sig ROCKS! Just like the 357 Magnum but more better...... There is NO way the 9mm +++PPP+++ can compete....
Great read but there is some HUGE ego investment here (mostly by the Facklerites).
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12-30-2012, 09:46
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That would mean that some of us favor the 147s or larger over the faster loads.
I really like the 147s in .357 SIG, esp. in the Glock 33.
This new Double Tap offering seemed plenty powerful out of the Glock 32 a week or so ago.

You can tell that you're shooting a heavier bullet but muzzle blast is lower than the
screaming 115 and 125s.
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12-30-2012, 14:04
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But really, a Corvette is simply a fast Chevett, right? 
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Being a former very disappointed owner of a Chevett, the Chevett was never fast. Now the family has which includes two grown kid, has 2 toyotas, 2 hondas, 1 Infinity, and 1 Accura. The Chevett was the best thing to happen for Japanese car sales.
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12-30-2012, 17:51
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1971 Chevelle SS was pretty much the Wilson Hunter 10mm. If you wanted to go in a striaght line.
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01-01-2013, 09:33
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I got my Underwood. 357 Sig ammo. I'll give you a review in Feb. going to border to hunt pigs.
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01-01-2013, 09:41
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Originally Posted by rustytxrx
I got my Underwood. 357 Sig ammo. I'll give you a review in Feb. going to border to hunt pigs.
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Looking forward to it, Rusty.
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01-01-2013, 13:44
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Originally Posted by clarkstoncz
That would mean that some of us favor the 147s or larger over the faster loads.
I really like the 147s in .357 SIG, esp. in the Glock 33.
This new Double Tap offering seemed plenty powerful out of the Glock 32 a week or so ago.

You can tell that you're shooting a heavier bullet but muzzle blast is lower than the
screaming 115 and 125s.

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That looks like a Glock M32.
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01-01-2013, 14:37
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It is a 32.
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01-01-2013, 15:11
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It is a 32.
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Probably a whole 33 ounces fully loaded. My G17 weighs 32 ounces fully loaded with 115gr bullets.
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01-02-2013, 02:38
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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
I'd bet that ammo is hard to find for the .357SIG.
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my LGS seems to always have availability
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01-02-2013, 11:38
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SCmasterblaster
Is Double Tap accurate in your Glock?
I haven't tried DT yet, but am really tempted.
Thanks.
Frank
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01-03-2013, 00:19
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Originally Posted by .50 cal
my LGS seems to always have availability
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The local Wal-Mart always has a box of WWB 125-grain FMJ available. That's the last round I'd want to have for self-defense in .357sig, unless it was the only one available.
Hmmm... Looks like all the 9mm, .45ACP, and other popular self-defense rounds are gone from the shelves around here.
Thank God I can get that .357sig after all!
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01-03-2013, 07:02
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Originally Posted by Frank V
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Is Double Tap accurate in your Glock?
I haven't tried DT yet, but am really tempted.
Thanks.
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Just so you know, DT has eroded away the respect they once had from their shooters. Their product has been clocking much slower than their advertised velocities. I don't know about their .357 variety but just wanted to give food for thought.
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01-03-2013, 09:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank V
SCmasterblaster
Is Double Tap accurate in your Glock?
I haven't tried DT yet, but am really tempted.
Thanks.
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I haven't fired it yet. I have a G17 only.
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01-03-2013, 16:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uz2bUSMC
Just so you know, DT has eroded away the respect they once had from their shooters. Their product has been clocking much slower than their advertised velocities. I don't know about their .357 variety but just wanted to give food for thought.
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Thanks for the information.
I'll look for more reports on it.
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Ok, you are going to love that G17. They are great weapons.
Frank
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01-04-2013, 08:37
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Originally Posted by Frank V
Thanks for the information.
I'll look for more reports on it.
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Ok, you are going to love that G17. They are great weapons.
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Is it a great weapon. I have shot jackrabbits with it back in 1989 CA. Since then I have used it in countless shooting matches.
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