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Old 01-12-2010, 02:04   #1
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Les Baer TRS?? Thoughts?

I am thinking about trading for a slightly used TRS that looks to be in excellent condition. I have several 1911's ranging from a Springfield GI to a Wilson Professional Supergrade so I am familiar with the platform, however, I have never owned a Baer. Any thoughts on the TRS? This specific pistol has been parkerized and is minus the front cocking serations, which I find to be a plus for this pistol. I generally try to avoid the FCS, but I especially don't care for them on the Baer. Any thoughts on this model pistol would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:28   #2
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Great 1911s. I don't own a TRS, but do own a Concept V and SRP.
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:37   #3
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That one is interesting. Also has the flat trigger. Let us know what you think should you purchase it. I definitely want a Baer, but am trying to decide whether I want a TRS or a PII. I'd love a SRP but don't see those often or within range $-wise for me.
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:59   #4
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That one is interesting. Also has the flat trigger. Let us know what you think should you purchase it. I definitely want a Baer, but am trying to decide whether I want a TRS or a PII. I'd love a SRP but don't see those often or within range $-wise for me.
I don't know about the flat trigger.....I have never used one, but it is easy enough to change out if I decide I don't like it.
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That one is interesting. Also has the flat trigger. Let us know what you think should you purchase it. I definitely want a Baer, but am trying to decide whether I want a TRS or a PII. I'd love a SRP but don't see those often or within range $-wise for me.
TRS's trigger is solid, not flat. It's a nice full size 1911.
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:49   #6
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The only thing I might be concerned about is buying a Baer that had been modified by someone other than Baer. The chances are slim but if you ever needed warranty work they might not cover it, just something to consider. Other than that I don't think you'll find a better 1911 in the price range of the TRS.
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TRS's trigger is solid, not flat. It's a nice full size 1911.
The one DRC is looking at has had one put in, probably a 10-8.
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:58   #8
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You have to try it to believe how good the Les Baer 1911's are.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:14   #9
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I own a TRS and a P2. IMHO they are the best 1911s out there. I can't shoot anywhere near what the TRS is capable of shooting. It's a workhorse for sure. It has fed everything I have given it. It hasn't choked on anything. Even during its break-in period it didn't fail. I bought both the Baers used. The P2 had 50 rounds through it and the TRS had about 100 through it. I am selling my Wilson and sticking with the Baers. Get it! You won't be disappointed.
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[IMG]1911 Forums[/IMG]I have a TR Special in a blued finish minus the FCS and really like it. In fact I think its the best 1911 I own. No cheap parts, hand fitting where needed,accurate as heck, and feeds/extracts anything I feed it.

They do not have perfect checkering nor do they have the edges smoothed out as much as some others but they have alot of soul and the fitting is very good.

To me nothing looks as good as a well worn blued or parked gun I just dont like the "baked on super paint" that some companys use.[IMG]1911 Forums[/IMG]
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That one is interesting. Also has the flat trigger. Let us know what you think should you purchase it. I definitely want a Baer, but am trying to decide whether I want a TRS or a PII. I'd love a SRP but don't see those often or within range $-wise for me.
Well, I have reached an agreement and will be doing the trade...Should be interesting. I am hesitant about that 10-8 flat trigger, but that would be simple to fix that if I decide I don't like the trigger. I would just end up replacing it with the correct trigger that came with the pistol when it was new. I will post pics when I get it here.....
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I can't stand those damn flat triggers but everyone that has one speaks very highly of them.
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The one DRC is looking at has had one put in, probably a 10-8.
Thanks, I didn't know this, disregard .
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Well, I have reached an agreement and will be doing the trade...Should be interesting. I am hesitant about that 10-8 flat trigger, but that would be simple to fix that if I decide I don't like the trigger. I would just end up replacing it with the correct trigger that came with the pistol when it was new. I will post pics when I get it here.....
Cool. I'm gonna' pm you later about another pistol I'm looking at.
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Old 01-12-2010, 16:01   #15
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Here are a couple pics of he Baer TRS I am getting. I hope it is alright to post pics of Adam's TRS.
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Looks great. I had a TRS (serial number TRS0098!) and regretably sold it off to fund another project. The TRS is a great 1911 and I am sure you will like it very much. Mine never gave me a problem, other than the bluing wears very fast and is obviously not very rust resistant. I really like the 10-8 flat triggers, and have a number of 10-8 parts on my Springfield Custom.
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If it's possible for a $1500 pistol to be a bargain, the TRS is it. I love the clean look of the slide, and I like parkerizing. The trigger would have to go, but that's easy. Congratulations.
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Nice!

give the flat trigger a chance, you may end up liking it.
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Well, I got the TRS today. I have to say, I am very impressed!! I really like the Parkerizing Job that the Springfield Armory Custom Shop did on it. I detail stripped it and everything looks to be in very nice condition. The pistol is tight, but not overly so. The bushing needs a bushing wrench to get it started, but is not too tight. I played around with the straight trigger and it felt a bit odd. I put a Harrison solid trigger that I had laying around in it. The trigger is nice, clean and crisp. I am very happy with the deal. I will try and get a few rounds through it tomorrow. This is my first Baer, and I am very impressed with this pistol. For a semi-custom that retails under two grand, I would have to say that the fit and feel of the pistol ranks it up there above most of its competitors at that price point. The proof will be when I fire it.......So far, so good. It is a nice solid pistol.
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Cool. I really want a Baer.
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Cool. I really want a Baer.
Id love one also, just not on a Commanche frame.
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Id love one also, just not on a Commanche frame.
To be honest, that's my thought as well. Or send it to a smith for rail mod.
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I got a chance to run several mags through it this morning......I don't know what it is about this pistol, but it just feels good in the hand, is accurate as hell and ate all the ammo I fed it. I am very impressed. I really like this thing so far....Like I said, I can't really explain what it is, but I really like this pistol for what it is.....Looks like a perfect EDC pistol. My CQB may be seeing a little more safe time now....
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drc, here's a post lifted from M1911.org from a very experienced, distinguished member, and it is at least partially responsible for a void I now want to fill:

Why I own Baers
From time to time, a post here will remind/provoke me to revisit my reasons for owning Les Baer pistols. I thought it might help, or provoke, the readership to give some different thought to their own reasons for owning, or contemplating purchase of a Les Baer Pistol.

First, I couldn't possibly care less what is stamped, rolled, etched, engraved on a gun. The fact that my guns say Les Baer Custom, is purely coincidental and of no concern to me whatsoever. That said, at the time I encountered my first Les Baer, there was significant mystique surrounding them. Their extraordinary accuracy, their incredible triggers, the astonishingly singular quality of the parts and materials, the extensive hand fitting, and the extraordinary stable of smiths. It all made for great conversation, none of which mattered to me.

I had been through the "who's who" of supposedly superior 1911 platform pistols. I had been, in one way or another, sorely disappointed. I wanted good accuracy, utter reliability, durability and a great trigger. I sold a Wilson Combat and bought a Les Baer. That gun was a revelation. It balanced more naturally in my hand than any other handgun I'd ever gripped. The POA was natural and effortless. The trigger, simply magnificent. Yeah, the gun was "stupid-tight", but it went bang every single time I pulled that crispy trigger. I cleaned it the first time at around 500rds and then let it go until the slide would literally creep back into battery. It never stoppped. That was 2000rds.

I still have that gun. It's now got nearly 100,000rds through it. A couple years ago, I sent it back to Les to have him look at the breech. He sent me back a test target that measured about 1-1/2"! I've replaced recoil springs, a mainspring, several firing pin springs and a firing pin. The thumbsafety isn't quite as crisp and defined as it once was, but it still never snicks off unexpectedly. The bluing is about 40% gone and all my grip indecies are bare metal. There's rust growing in several places that I can't kill, but keep at bay.

If youre into metalurgy, look at the hardnesses of metals used by Les. Part to part, it's pretty incredible. He runs through CNC bits like water; one of his largest manufacturing expenditures. Barrels are still hard-fit Kart. He uses his own, proprietary landing, which you can't get anywhere else. Of all the Baers I've owned, the only two I've been able to remove the bushing from, without a wrench, are that old gun and my SRP, which is Bear Coated and has about 10k rds through. There's just a slight bit of rotational slide movement in the old gun now. Yet, far less than any other production pistol I've ever checked and less than most customs.

I've had occasion to talk to Les. Quite a bit, actually. I've even sent guns back to him for this and that. He's patently fair. Les knows every molecule of "his" guns; and he does see every one as his gun! If you call, or send a gun back and youre full of dookie, he has no reservations about telling you so. He assumes, that when you buy a Les Baer pistol, you ought to know a thing or two about handguns and not be some nuvo-riche idiot. He doesn't cater to that crowd and has little patience for it. If you have a legitimate, functional, manufacturing issue, he will bend over backwards to make it right. If you're calling about some miniscule cosmetic anomely, get lost.

When I pay $XXXX for a Les Baer pistol, I'm not shackled with paying for your "lifetime warranty". Your shipping, to and from Les Baer, are not factored into my purchase price. When I buy a Les Baer pistol, I do so with the confidence born of many other purchases. I buy for consistency, unmatched quality of function and sheer ruggedness. I understand that I am paying a minimum for such advantages and so, on the out-chance I get something not "just exactly perfect" I know the onus is on me to send it back to be righted. Knowing Les as I do, I trust him implicitly to be both fair and practical in any transaction.

My guns are hammers. They are hard-use tools. I shoot practical "games", teach firearms classes and am on live ranges, with students, 4-6 days a week. A hammer is only as good as it drives a nail. Whether it says Les Baer, Woolworths, or Abercrombe and Fitch on the slide, doesn't matter to me. I buy quality and value. I buy Les Baer.
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drc, here's a post lifted from M1911.org from a very experienced, distinguished member, and it is at least partially responsible for a void I now want to fill:


It's now got nearly 100,000rds through it.
Wow, I didn't think that was humanly or mechanically possible !
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