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Old 03-05-2010, 20:18   #21
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I didnt think bare lead was suppose to be used in Glocks ?
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Old 03-15-2010, 22:53   #22
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After shooting a 4th batch just to be sure, all of which functioned 100% perfectly, I can now say that I've come up with a target load I'm very happy with.

Any one-fired case, Fed. 100 primer, 5.6g. Winchester SuperField, and Rainier 200g. copper-plated round-nose bullet @ OAL of 1.08". Velocity at 10' is 815FPS from my 37, and pressure is very low. (Lyman's manual starts at 5.9g. for 844FPS at 18100PSI.) With my 37, accuracy is as high as any load I've shot, and recoil is low; this is VERY comfortable to shoot bunches of.

BTW I tried a low-power load with this bullet and LongShot; it proved to be a little slow burning--I could actually feel the action working.

BTW2, I tried and am using these powders because I already had a bunch. If I live long enough to run out of WSF, I'll switch to Universal which I already use in my PD loads with 185 Gold Dots.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:24   #23
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I didnt think bare lead was suppose to be used in Glocks ?
You, sir, are correct.

(And pardon in advance if the explanation below doesn't apply to you. There are many people who only browse GlockTalk, so I like to explain things as fully as possible for those who are looking for answers, but aren't ready to ask questions).

Lead-only bullets in Glocks are a problem because the lead leaves deposits in the polygonal barrel grooves. Eventually, the build-up gets bad enough that you create dangerously high pressures (as there is less and less room for your bullet to travel down the barrel). This can lead to unfortunate and dangerous consequences such as your barrel exploding. Since this normally happens when you're holding your Glock in your hand, it is considered a Bad Thing™.

You can get around this by purchasing an aftermarket barrel with different rifling grooves that don't get fouled with lead. Lone Wolf now sells them for GAP Glocks.

If you're referring to the pics in this thread, those are jacketed bullets. Most bullets have a lead core, surrounded by copper on the outside. For "Full Metal Jacket" (FMJ) bullets, the "Jacket" part is the copper outside. For hollow-points (HP) , you have a partial jacket with an opening in the front to aid in expansion. The pics above show hollow-point bullets after expansion, revealing the lead inner core.

FMJ and HP bullets with lead cores with aren't a problem because the jacket is between the lead and the rifling of the barrel, so you don't have a lead buildup.
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:49   #24
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Anybody use Unique or Red Dot ?
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185 gr Speer GDHP
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Minimum OAL(inches) Bbl Length Primer Powder Charge Weight
grains) Velocity
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1.07 4.5 CCI 500 Unique 7.7 1,009

I used the above data only used Montana gold bullet 185gr JHP and a reduced amount of Unique (7.2 gr). It was my first try at loading the GAP and I used Unique because I have a lot of it around. It shot nice and soft and was accurate as anything else I've shot out of a Glock. I shot it out of a G37 (first time shooting the gun). I also have a S&W model 625 in 45ACP that I plan on trying some 45GAP in. I read some where about another shooter using it in his S&W 45ACP revelover.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:14   #25
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Do you guys use 45 ACP dies adjusted down or do you use 45 GAP dies? Which ones?
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:43   #26
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Do you guys use 45 ACP dies adjusted down or do you use 45 GAP dies? Which ones?
I don't reload, but IIRC, everybody uses .45ACP dies and adjusts them down. I figure, if you reload a lot, and reload both calibers, you might want to get two sets of .45 dies and have one pre-adjusted to the OAL specs for GAP. Or something.
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Old 09-17-2010, 15:03   #27
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I have two sets of Dillon .45 ACP dies, one adjusted for .45 GAP. In fact, Dillon now calls them .45 ACP/GAP dies.
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Old 11-16-2010, 20:29   #28
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Anybody reloading GAP to match gold dot or magtech in 185gr?
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Old 01-18-2011, 17:26   #29
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Anyone have a favorite plinking round recipe they would like to share. I am going to start reloading for my G38 and would like some good plinking options. Thanks for the help.
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Old 01-18-2011, 19:23   #30
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4.7gr bullseye behind a 200gr berry's bullet has become a favorite of mine
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Old 01-18-2011, 20:17   #31
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I also use 4.7gr bullseye behind a 230gr berry's bullet. This is NOT a published load, but works great in MY G37.
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Old 04-02-2011, 09:14   #32
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I bought a actually set of 45gap dies. Did the same with 10mm instead of just adjusting. I have a Lee Pro 1000 so its alot fast for me to just switch out the turret and be on way. No adjusting and checking. For the extra 40 bucks for setup its worth me saving the time in long run.
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:20   #33
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any problems with bulging cases when using the glock barrel?
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Old 09-05-2011, 11:33   #34
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any problems with bulging cases when using the glock barrel?
Nope!
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Old 09-06-2011, 20:38   #35
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230 gr Hornady HAP Handloads?

Anyone tried loading some of these babies?

http://www.hornady.com/store/45-Cal-.451-230-GR-HAP/

The local Fisherman's Marine was having a sweet sale on these. I liked the 125 grain version that I fed my G34 so much that I sprung for some for the 37. I didn't want it to feel left out.

No GAP data whatsoever in the Hornady manual. I know there have been 230 gr HPs commercially available, but all of the 230 gr recipes that I have been able to find seem to be for round or flat nose-type bullets, so I'm unsure of what the overall case length should be for this round. I'm also hoping to use my supply of Unique powder for this purpose.

Any ideas on where I might find a starting point for this load?

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Old 10-30-2011, 09:46   #36
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I like the following load of .45 GAP for shooting GSSF Heavy Metal Category.

185gr FP Xtreme Plated Bullet
4.35gr Titegroup
Fed Small Pistol Primers
1.065 OAL

200gr FP Xtreme Plated Bullets
4.2gr Titegroup
Fed Small Pistol Primers
1.068 OAL

Both loads shoot great through a G37/38. Soft and accurate.

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Does anyone know what is wrong with the load data on the first page here. I looked at it about three weeks ago and it was a great help. Now its all sorts of funny numbers and letters and I cant understand a thing. I have tried to look at it on another computer to see if perhaps I had a bug but I do not and I think it is the page that is screwy. Is there anyway to fix this as I could really use that load info on MG 185 JHP for the gap load. There is not much out there. Looking for a good clean powder that I wont get my head chopped off for using on the reloading page here. Like I am getting for wanted to use Titegroup. Only wanted to use this because there is data for it. My dies I bought said use Universal, Longshot, HS6, Titegroup, Clays. What would you guys run? I am not looking for a super hot load but one that has some wop and is kinda close to factory. I just bought a powder cop and should be getting it today just for this round since I have the spot for it in my press.
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Does anyone know what is wrong with the load data on the first page here. I looked at it about three weeks ago and it was a great help. Now its all sorts of funny numbers and letters and I cant understand a thing. I have tried to look at it on another computer to see if perhaps I had a bug but I do not and I think it is the page that is screwy. Is there anyway to fix this as I could really use that load info on MG 185 JHP for the gap load. There is not much out there. Looking for a good clean powder that I wont get my head chopped off for using on the reloading page here. Like I am getting for wanted to use Titegroup. Only wanted to use this because there is data for it. My dies I bought said use Universal, Longshot, HS6, Titegroup, Clays. What would you guys run? I am not looking for a super hot load but one that has some wop and is kinda close to factory. I just bought a powder cop and should be getting it today just for this round since I have the spot for it in my press.
Fire Medic's posts certainly do seem to be hosed! I have no idea why. You might try sending him a PM to ask about the data you are interested in.
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Just finished reading my new Lee reloading book. Years ago when I reloaded I only did .38, .357 and 9mm. Never trimmed any cases, just kept reloading and shooting. Is case trimming something I need to worry about with the GAP or do they pretty much stay within spec?
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Just finished reading my new Lee reloading book. Years ago when I reloaded I only did .38, .357 and 9mm. Never trimmed any cases, just kept reloading and shooting. Is case trimming something I need to worry about with the GAP or do they pretty much stay within spec?
Don't bother with trimming straight-walled pistol cases. Relax, reload, shoot and have fun!
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