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Old 11-22-2009, 22:52   #1376
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Old 11-22-2009, 22:53   #1377
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Old 11-22-2009, 22:54   #1378
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Old 11-23-2009, 00:20   #1379
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:33   #1380
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:50   #1381
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Awake yet Miss Lone_? Have a great day!
That's one big cat! Yep, I'm awake. Had to teach a class right after I left the hospital until lunchtime and I just got back from seeing the doc and physical therapy. back my dear.

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You are feeling survivor's guilt for something that shouldn't, IMO, have happened. I know that I am going to say some things that may be unpopular, but it is part of what happened to you.
The day the soldiers said for you two to run for the third truck, I think they should have been running with you, shielding you, while firing at the Afghani's. It makes better sense to me than to yell for two unarmed assets to take off running an expanse where they could be shot. If you are going to feel responsible for Greg's death, then I am going to place responsibility with whoever wasn't covering you. I don't blame them for not wanting to jump into harm's way, but sending a mechanic and a lady computer person to run without physical cover? You are just not responsible, period.
I know that you are spending a lot of time dwelling on these things right now, honey, and I want you to stop replaying it in your mind that you in some way caused Greg's death. You just didn't.
Hi there, I think I need to clear up a couple misconceptions here. First off, everyone was armed at the time. I had my rifle and it was ready to go when I left the MRAP. Also when I first left the vehicle there were no Afghaniís to shoot at. They were hidden behind some rock formations and waited until we were running to pop out and start shooting. Soldiers from each vehicle had gotten out and formed a perimeter around the area, but didnít see anyone so thatís when Greg and I were told to run to cover, then to the other MRAP. I was hit by one of the first rounds fired. It happened so fast I didnít have time to bring my rifle to bear. In a split second I saw AKís, the muzzle flash and then I was on the ground facing back the wrong way. Of course our guys returned fire and they were trading bullets the remainder of the time I was conscious.

No one knowingly sent me out there under fire. Iím not trying to brag or anything because this part makes me feel even worse about it, but the primary mission for that convoy was to move me and the equipment I had to another base. The mechanic, Greg, was hitching a ride to go fix a chopper. I was the last person they wanted to have go down because no one else there or on the remote base knew what to do with the equipment I had.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:30   #1382
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LW,

The biggest problem I had today was I didn't get to kill a big buck. I feel like a spoiled brat after listening to what you guys are all going through, SO THAT I can go hunting, or do whatever I want; totally free.

Thank you so much for your sacrifice and service. Tell your fellow soldiers that there are people back home praying for you, and we are so grateful for your courage. Thanks for ensuring our freedom. Hope you can get home soon!
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The biggest problem I had today was I didn't get to kill a big buck. I feel like a spoiled brat after listening to what you guys are all going through, SO THAT I can go hunting, or do whatever I want; totally free.

Thank you so much for your sacrifice and service. Tell your fellow soldiers that there are people back home praying for you, and we are so grateful for your courage. Thanks for ensuring our freedom. Hope you can get home soon!
dad2thebone I would be bummed too if I spent the day in the woods and had no venison to show for it.

But I do understand what you're saying and I appreciate the kind words. I do and will continue to pass on the prayers of so many of you for everyone over here, be they military or civilian. And Thank You.
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Old 11-23-2009, 15:29   #1384
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Wolfe, that's it. You are this side of a tombstone. You have your life to live. You will find the strength and courage to get through this.

Sending you warm thoughts and positive energy.
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This post was sticking in my mind earlier and it seems so relevant right now. I realize that now and it's sunk in that without a hell of a lot of luck and determination of the part of other, and yes, determination on my part, it wouldn't be this way. These last few days I've been either feeling up and happy, or starting to get really down at times. These mood swings can be pretty extreme sometimes.

Tonight I was walking down a dark road all alone and I started thinking about what itís like to be a member of the Borrowed Time club. I know Iím still sorting it all out in my head. Sometimes itís good, other times not so. Itís a strange and powerful feeling sometimes. There are times I feel a weight of a tremendous responsibility on my shoulders. Other time, like tonight, I just stare in awe at a quarter-moon and realize how close I came to not being able to see that sight. I was walking along feeling what I would describe as close to elation at this second chance Iíve been given/fought for. And then the thought went through my mind, ďYeah, at the cost of a good manís lifeĒ. Try as I might I havenít been able to push that thought out of me head since then. In fact I finished my walk with tears rolling down my face. Iíve been trying to distract myself watching a movie and hanging out on GT a bit, but not having much luck.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:34   #1385
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Geeorge, that cat is beautiful but let's be glad we don't have to feed and clean behind that lion!




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This happening was not your choice.

It was not your time.

We all have people to which we owe so much. That changed our lives - sometimes at a terrible cost to our benefactor. Rarely is it as clearly evident as during the sacrifices of war. Be at peace. It cannot be changed. You are a gift to us all.
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................ Other time, like tonight, I just stare in awe at a quarter-moon and realize how close I came to not being able to see that sight. I was walking along feeling what I would describe as close to elation at this second chance Iíve been given/fought for. And then the thought went through my mind, ďYeah, at the cost of a good manís lifeĒ. Try as I might I havenít been able to push that thought out of me head since then. In fact I finished my walk with tears rolling down my face. Iíve been trying to distract myself watching a movie and hanging out on GT a bit, but not having much luck.
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This happening was not your choice.

It was not your time.

We all have people to which we owe so much. That changed our lives - sometimes at a terrible cost to our benefactor. Rarely is it as clearly evident as during the sacrifices of war. Be at peace. It cannot be changed. You are a gift to us all.
engineer151515 I read Wolfe's post and was trying to find the words to say this but you did it better than I could. Thank you.

Wolfe I know you can't turn you feelings off on demand and you need to work through this survivor's guilt. This just proves that you are a good person as I have known all along. I would wonder about you if you didn't feel this way. But you have to remember that this was not your choice or your fault. That man made the choice to save you and he knew what could happen. I bet you would have done the same thing.

I for one am very grateful for what he did and I don't think I'm alone in that. I really like having you around. He gave you the second chance that you have finally discovered and he would want you to stare in awe at the moon and feel the euphoric feelings of someone who realized they beat the odds that you did. Face this and talk about it so you can heal. Don't make the mistake of brushing it aside but remember in the end it was not your fault and he would want you to be happy.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:58   #1388
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Wolfe,

I worked in a large hospital for about 10 years. One day I was having
a chat with one of the nurses. The story is too long about how it came
up, but she said "Guilt is a useless emotion."

Considering my southern baptist upbringing, I was stunned by her remark.
So much of what I had been taught as a child was based upon guilt and fear. As an adult and finding my own values and way, the more I thought about it, "Guilt is a useless emotion". I've come to believe she is right.

Knowing and owning ones actions can bring growth. Considering what should have been done differently can bring change to make something
better the next time. Feeling miserable, feeling guilty, doesn't change anything. It brings you down, it makes it harder to heal, it surrounds you
with negativity. There isn't any doubt to anyone, that you would have
reacted differently that day if you would have had the opportunity.

(ok time out, Wolfe, right now right this second, I glanced out the window
and there is a large bald eagle sitting in a tree looking at my house, I
tend to trust these kinds of things as signs of encouragement, this one
is for you)

Wolfe, you know who you are, you know who you have been.
You are still the same woman...the one I've glimpsed here certainly
seems like someone who gives plenty back.

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This happening was not your choice.

It was not your time.

We all have people to which we owe so much. That changed our lives - sometimes at a terrible cost to our benefactor. Rarely is it as clearly evident as during the sacrifices of war. Be at peace. It cannot be changed. You are a gift to us all.

So many posts in here bring tears to my eyes. This one was no exception. No, I never would have chosen this. To me it made so much more sense for him to stay behind cover since I was already injured and he didnít have any way to know if I was even alive. So what could have been just one injured or killed turned into one dead, one injured and could have easily been two killed.

Iím just thinking of all the reasons he shouldnít have done what he did and I canít think of a good reason. Yes I owe him something I can never repay. I know I owe my life to a medic and some doctors and nurses too, but they didnít have to die so I could live. No one should have died for me out there. What makes me so special that anyone should do this? Iím not saying Iím a bad person, in fact I do my best to do the right thing, but Iím not worth someone elseís life.

You referred to me as gift to you all. Many times in recent months Iíve thought of you in here as Godís gift to me. I think I got the better end of that deal.

Sawgrass, I need to think about your post. I donít get how guilt could be useless if it was to stop you from doing wrong or make you want to make a wrong right. Maybe itíll make sense in the morning after I get some sleepÖ
Till then, good night everyone!
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Old 11-24-2009, 21:34   #1392
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This happening was not your choice.

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We all have people to which we owe so much. That changed our lives - sometimes at a terrible cost to our benefactor. Rarely is it as clearly evident as during the sacrifices of war. Be at peace. It cannot be changed. You are a gift to us all.
I'm with Silent Runner, I was trying to find the right words to say to Wolfe and then you said this and nailed it. You are always such a sturdy, stable and comforting person here and are so appreciated here. I love the way you talk to Wolfe and set her mind at ease.
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Old 11-24-2009, 22:10   #1393
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Gentle ones for when you wake up my dear.
Oh thank you, sweetheart. Danged rain today is making those gentle ones so appealing right now.
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Wolfe please take these words to heart. You are here for a reason and that reason has to be something better than to hurt like you do now.

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I missed you call but got your voicemail. I hope the rains rolls out of there soon. Have you been cuddling a hot water bottle much today?
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Wolfe please take these words to heart. You are here for a reason and that reason has to be something better than to hurt like you do now.


I missed you call but got your voicemail. I hope the rains rolls out of there soon. Have you been cuddling a hot water bottle much today?

I'm doing my best. I sure hope there's another reason.

Yep, I've been up close and personal with a hot water bottle and towel as much as I could today. It does help. The rain quit but it's cold and damp now.
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I'm with Silent Runner, I was trying to find the right words to say to Wolfe and then you said this and nailed it. You are always such a sturdy, stable and comforting person here and are so appreciated here. I love the way you talk to Wolfe and set her mind at ease.
There are so many of you here that I really think are put here to say something I need to hear at that moment, be it kind and comforting or sometimes rather tough like some other posts in here. Sometimes it's not what I want, but maybe it's what I need instead. My mind has a long way to go to be at ease, but I keep hoping someday.


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Wolfe,

I worked in a large hospital for about 10 years. One day I was having
a chat with one of the nurses. The story is too long about how it came
up, but she said "Guilt is a useless emotion."

Considering my southern baptist upbringing, I was stunned by her remark.
So much of what I had been taught as a child was based upon guilt and fear. As an adult and finding my own values and way, the more I thought about it, "Guilt is a useless emotion". I've come to believe she is right.

Knowing and owning ones actions can bring growth. Considering what should have been done differently can bring change to make something
better the next time. Feeling miserable, feeling guilty, doesn't change anything. It brings you down, it makes it harder to heal, it surrounds you
with negativity. There isn't any doubt to anyone, that you would have
reacted differently that day if you would have had the opportunity.

(ok time out, Wolfe, right now right this second, I glanced out the window
and there is a large bald eagle sitting in a tree looking at my house, I
tend to trust these kinds of things as signs of encouragement, this one
is for you)

Wolfe, you know who you are, you know who you have been.
You are still the same woman...the one I've glimpsed here certainly
seems like someone who gives plenty back.

Sawgrass
Sawgrass, Iím having trouble getting my pre-sentient lizard brain around this one. Is it not a guilty conscious that would cause someone to right a wrong, or not to commit that wrong in the first place? I can see where continued guilt after youíve atoned for your sin would be bad for you, but it would seem like a person would also lack a conscience. I know I donít fall into that category, I feel really bad about doing someone wrong until I at least go apologize. Maybe what youíre trying to say is continued feeling guilty when thereís nothing I can do to change or atone? I know that nothing I can ever do would bring Greg back, or I would have already done it. There is no way to atone either..

Just trying to get my sleepless at 2AM brain around your messageÖ

It wouldnít be right to take if I didnít also give back. Like when I take so much from you here, I hope I give some back too, somehow.
The eagleÖ.. If thatís a sign for then Iíll sure take it. The symbol of our country. It makes me think of an old song I like about watching someone fly.


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janice6, I do think that's the case. I can only hope that when it's time for me to do what I was kept here to do that I can succeed in that mission.
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