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Old 03-06-2013, 05:24   #10101
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I'll agree with the 2 posts immediately above mine. Wolfe, I'm so sorry...and now my screen is blurry too. I'm so sorry, and please don't forget we all love you!
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:52   #10102
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LW it's great that you were able to visit with SR.

IIRC your friendship began with her ability to be honest with you in a difficult situation. You should probably listen to her now. She has always demonstrated having your best interest in her heart and actions.
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LW it's great that you were able to visit with SR.

IIRC your friendship began with her ability to be honest with you in a difficult situation. You should probably listen to her now. She has always demonstrated having your best interest in her heart and actions.
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I'll agree with the 2 posts immediately above mine. Wolfe, I'm so sorry...and now my screen is blurry too. I'm so sorry, and please don't forget we all love you!
Thank you, my friend.

Mine's bluury again, too. But then it stays that way a lot these days...



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LW it's great that you were able to visit with SR.

IIRC your friendship began with her ability to be honest with you in a difficult situation. You should probably listen to her now. She has always demonstrated having your best interest in her heart and actions.
Your memory is good. I know it's been a while since I posted it, she was the only one at the hospital who'd tell me the truth, that someone I really cared about wasn't going to survive the accident he'd been in. Everyone else there wanted to shine me on with "Oh, there's still hope". We've been friends ever since.

Yes, she looks out for me, just like I've tried to look out for her when I could. I know I posted about her EX elsewhere, and how I got him to leave her alone. She's trying to do the best for me again, and I understand it. I'd be there with her if I could, but her wishes come first.

Another of the promises she dragged out of me was that I'd deal with the guns, instead of just leaving them in storage forever and possible losing them. She also made me promise to make sure I get a fair amount of money for them, instead of letting someone else take them all for a small percent of what they're worth. That doesn't mean I have to sell them individually, I just have to have an idea of their value. I've been combining the inventory I had with the one she had, and am starting to research what a few of them are worth. Bob, you wanted me to start desensitizing myself to guns. I'm not doing it like you had in mind, but I guess I'm doing it anyway. The reason behind it just really sucks.



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Old 03-07-2013, 23:49   #10105
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Damnit ......

Yeah, I've been saying this and some other choice words for a couple years now.
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Lone_Wolfe is there a dealer that you could consign a few at a time with? I've sold a few with the guy who I really like here on consignment. That way I don't have to deal with listing, shipping, FFL etc. but I get the price that I want and he make a few bucks.

Wrench found a Bisley in WI. yesterday, waiting for it to hit the local FFL.
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Bob, you wanted me to start desensitizing myself to guns. I'm not doing it like you had in mind, but I guess I'm doing it anyway. The reason behind it just really sucks.

Yes, it does. It's something you're going to have to deal with, though, so might as well get it done. I think sawgrass has a good idea about putting them up for consignment. They might even meet you at the storage unit and take them away for you so you don't have to haul them. Just be sure they are inventoried.

Even though I'm not posting much right now, I think about and pray for you every day.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:13   #10108
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Yes, it does. It's something you're going to have to deal with, though, so might as well get it done. I think sawgrass has a good idea about putting them up for consignment. They might even meet you at the storage unit and take them away for you so you don't have to haul them. Just be sure they are inventoried.

Even though I'm not posting much right now, I think about and pray for you every day.
I still have hope that some day she will be whole again.
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Old 03-08-2013, 22:08   #10109
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Yes, it does. It's something you're going to have to deal with, though, so might as well get it done. I think sawgrass has a good idea about putting them up for consignment. They might even meet you at the storage unit and take them away for you so you don't have to haul them. Just be sure they are inventoried.

Even though I'm not posting much right now, I think about and pray for you every day.
It would have to be a pretty hefty shop to accommodate your entire collection. If you decide to go this route, be very careful about who knows where they are.

I shot my newly acquired Python today. If you can go back into your mind and remember our conversation about SW 28's, and how that felt to you and SR, LW I think I surpassed it. Hard to believe that a 50 yr old gun can feel so good, but it was exceptional.

I still pray for the day that you and I can shoot a while, grill a good steak and crack open a bottle of something tasty together.

My best and prayers to you and SR.
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Lone_Wolfe is there a dealer that you could consign a few at a time with? I've sold a few with the guy who I really like here on consignment. That way I don't have to deal with listing, shipping, FFL etc. but I get the price that I want and he make a few bucks.

Wrench found a Bisley in WI. yesterday, waiting for it to hit the local FFL.
There's gun stores around me, but none I really know well enough to call them to go look at the guns. I never really got to know any of the ones that are still open. One that I'd have gone to closed in the last few years. Still, that might be the option I have to take.

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Yes, it does. It's something you're going to have to deal with, though, so might as well get it done. I think sawgrass has a good idea about putting them up for consignment. They might even meet you at the storage unit and take them away for you so you don't have to haul them. Just be sure they are inventoried.

Even though I'm not posting much right now, I think about and pray for you every day.
More than you know. I'm traveling right now to do a couple things she asked of me that I just think are best handled in person. Today Montgomery, tomorrow Knoxville. I should only be there a couple of days. I know something's important to her when she asks if I can do it in spite of knowing how bad flying hurts me. But it's the least I can do after all she's done for me.

Thank you for that. I've missed your sense of humor and wisdom around here.



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I still have hope that some day she will be whole again.
If you're referring to wanting to be around guns again, I don't see that happening.

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Old 03-08-2013, 22:21   #10111
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More wuss that trooper, I think.

I made it home just a bit ago, managed to get my flight moved up to today. Had to pay $150 to do that, but hotel and food would have cost that had I stayed in Knoxville. I would have, but don't know anyone I could have gotten ahold of on short notice, and didn't want to just sit in a hotel room. So I'm home, listening to my chest scream about the flying, and crying in my beer. Only one more quick trip on her behalf, I'm doing that one in the next couple weeks I think. Thank you for the prayers and good thoughts and messages.
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More wuss that trooper, I think.

I made it home just a bit ago, managed to get my flight moved up to today. Had to pay $150 to do that, but hotel and food would have cost that had I stayed in Knoxville. I would have, but don't know anyone I could have gotten ahold of on short notice, and didn't want to just sit in a hotel room. So I'm home, listening to my chest scream about the flying, and crying in my beer. Only one more quick trip on her behalf, I'm doing that one in the next couple weeks I think. Thank you for the prayers and good thoughts and messages.
Maybe you can share what you're doing some day?
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Just personal messages and deliveries to some people she cares about, but who couldn't travel to Illinois right now, and might not be able to in time. I won't give the specifics beyond that. I'm honored that she trusted me to handle this, instead of asking one of her daughters.
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It's great that you are able to do this for her.

I hope you get some rest before the next round.
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More wuss that trooper, I think.

I made it home just a bit ago, managed to get my flight moved up to today. Had to pay $150 to do that, but hotel and food would have cost that had I stayed in Knoxville. I would have, but don't know anyone I could have gotten ahold of on short notice, and didn't want to just sit in a hotel room. So I'm home, listening to my chest scream about the flying, and crying in my beer. Only one more quick trip on her behalf, I'm doing that one in the next couple weeks I think. Thank you for the prayers and good thoughts and messages.
If I hadn't been at drill, that's only a few hours' drive from me.
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Just personal messages and deliveries to some people she cares about, but who couldn't travel to Illinois right now, and might not be able to in time. I won't give the specifics beyond that. I'm honored that she trusted me to handle this, instead of asking one of her daughters.
That is amazing.
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I hope you get some rest before the next round.
I am, too. These last couple years of watching and not being able to do a damn thing besides offer friendship and words of comfort are hard to takr. As small of a thing as this was, it took away the helpless feeling for at least a few days. I needed that. Yeah, selfish I know, I got no excuse.



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If I hadn't been at drill, that's only a few hours' drive from me.
I'd love to have met up with you. Or some other GT'ers, and had a nice little GTG, but I didn't plan the trip very well for that. :( Maybe next time I get up that way.





I'm still around, folks, just got a lot on my mind. Yeah, I know, you've heard that before. Some of the same old crap, with more stuff added on. I need to think it through a bit more before I try to post. I tried to talk privately to a friend last night, and things came out all wrong. I don't want to do that again, I need some clarity here.
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wolfe,

i think it's safe to speak for everyone here.

no one will judge if you mis speak. pretty sure we all get it. we love you, mis statements or not, and we want to be here for you.

off my mushy soapbox.
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:04   #10120
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wolfe,

i think it's safe to speak for everyone here.

no one will judge if you mis speak. pretty sure we all get it. we love you, mis statements or not, and we want to be here for you.

off my mushy soapbox.
I concur...I will not hold anything against you, as I know you have so much going on that your words might not truly express what you mean for them to. We would rather hear from you and get a message that we need to ask for clarification, than to not get anything from you and worry about you. I know losing your friends hurts, believe me please, I've lost some very dear friends...3 of them in one night...please talk to us if you need help, we are here for you!
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LW: we haven't spoken in eons *pout*

Do you Skype? I've never used it, but w/help from kiddo and from you, I would think I could get it installed and functional.

Wanna? :::::gentle hugs::::::

(or, there's the plain old cell phone method.. )
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wolfe,

i think it's safe to speak for everyone here.

no one will judge if you mis speak. pretty sure we all get it. we love you, mis statements or not, and we want to be here for you.

off my mushy soapbox.
Thank you. You guys really have been, and it's appreciated.



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I concur...I will not hold anything against you, as I know you have so much going on that your words might not truly express what you mean for them to. We would rather hear from you and get a message that we need to ask for clarification, than to not get anything from you and worry about you. I know losing your friends hurts, believe me please, I've lost some very dear friends...3 of them in one night...please talk to us if you need help, we are here for you!
I think it's not so much you holding it against me I was thinking about, as just plain not understanding something I word so badly.

Right now, I'm just angry. Angry that I'm losing another friend, angry that there's so much I can't do anymore, angry that I'm so afraid of so much these days. On that last, I think I've reached a "That does it!" point. I think I'm more afraid of not having a gun if I need one than I am of them in general. AK-47's not included. A couple days ago I was walking from my outbuilding to my house about 100' away. A big, aggressive Pit Bull came running at me, barking like mad. He stopped about 30' away, growling, barking, and digging the ground like an angry bull. If I'd had a gun, I would have drawn it. Not fired it, but been ready. As it was, I stayed facing the dog and backed around the corner of my house. Then I went inside to change my pants! I've been carrying a walking stick in my yard since then.

Even before that I was thinking about a lot ot things, including some things Silent_Runner and I talked about while I was visiting her. She made some good points about how I've lost more than the physical ability to do a lot of things, I've lost the mental ability, too. She wasn't referring to just the fuzzy head and cognitive issues I have now, but the effects of the PTSD and events have had on me. I used to feel a lot more like I could take care of myself than I do now, some of that's based in reality, some is just perception. One part of that is that when I used to carry a gun most all of the time, it gave me a sense of being responsible for my own safety. It didn't make me think I was invincible or anything like that, just that I had a better chance to get away if something went very wrong than I do now.

There's really a lot more to it than that, like not being able to drive very far, walk very long, etc. That's just what's taking up most of my thoughts right now because I've been working on the inventory spreadsheets of the guns left in storage that I now have to dispose of. I'll post more once I get some clearer thoughts in my head. Thanks for listening.



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LW: we haven't spoken in eons *pout*

Do you Skype? I've never used it, but w/help from kiddo and from you, I would think I could get it installed and functional.

Wanna? :::::gentle hugs::::::

(or, there's the plain old cell phone method.. )
No, no Skype of anything like that. Just plain old email and this here. So how you been? I've missed you.
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Lone-Wolfe if you go back to some of your previous posts, well...there have been a few that needed reading more than once. Then read ^^^^^, you are getting better, despite the additional cancer treatment.

You are a very strong person, and you have proven that over and over. Not only are you strong but you put Jeff and now SR before your own needs. You are a good person.

I wish you would have had a gun in the restaurant and for the dog. Obviously you would not have fired it in either case. I completely appreciate and respect your comment about taking responsibility for yourself. That's why I carry. You are working through this and you'll know when it's time when it gets there.

Please give my best to SR. You both remain in my thoughts and prayers.
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Lone-Wolfe if you go back to some of your previous posts, well...there have been a few that needed reading more than once. Then read ^^^^^, you are getting better, despite the additional cancer treatment.

You are a very strong person, and you have proven that over and over. Not only are you strong but you put Jeff and now SR before your own needs. You are a good person.

I wish you would have had a gun in the restaurant and for the dog. Obviously you would not have fired it in either case. I completely appreciate and respect your comment about taking responsibility for yourself. That's why I carry. You are working through this and you'll know when it's time when it gets there.

Please give my best to SR. You both remain in my thoughts and prayers.
I'm not sure what you mean about some needing reading more than once.

I'm an OK person, just lucky to have friends like her and Jeff. With her gone, I'll just have the one RL friend left. I gave your best through her daugher, and was asked to thank you and everyone for the thoughts and prayers.

I was damn sure wishing I had a gun both times, too. That dog came running into my yard again today, but this time I was on my front porch and ducked back inside the house in time. There's a whole lot more to what I'm thinking, I'm just having trouble putting it into words. I feel like some of my freedom was taken from me. I don't mean like constitutional or legal freedom, I mean it on a more personal level.
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It's time for you to write your book.

Well, you've already started the outline. Right here.
Don't forget to add photographs.
The internet also presents the option of personal publishing.
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