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Old 03-28-2011, 17:46   #7026
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Old 03-28-2011, 19:03   #7027
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:50   #7028
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Today he didn't focus on Greg or anything to do with me getting shot and all that stuff. We all got some sad news this morning, Skidoo's brother died shortly before midnight his time zone.

My shrink was more focused on that today and trying to see if I needed to cry about that. I'm sure he'll be back to the usual torment tomorrow.



Yep it does. But you know I've got no beach here.........

Correction: You have beach. You just don't have an ocean.

My doc was due back today, but I didn't see him. He may just not have been around when I went in to see my terrorist. No change the last few nights in my nightmares, but I've been getting very little sleep, especially the last few days. BTW, my terrorist made me cry today. Who wants to chase him around with a bat?

My shrink didn't tear into me bad today, I think he cut me a break because I went in with the news that Skidoo's brother had died just hours before. I really think he had something else up his sleeve, but instead he asked be a bunck of stuff about Skidoo's family and any effect this has on me.

I have an idea what your shrink may do one of these days, but I'm not going to steal his thunder.
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Old 03-29-2011, 15:34   #7029
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Hey!!!!! You quit trying to scare Engineer off! Or are you trying to steal him away?

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How far are you from the pier?

Just a bit more than half a mile.


And does it have a rose garden in the middle of the parking lot? I think I've been there on my bike several years ago.

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Old 03-29-2011, 16:58   #7030
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Oh it's not your guilt that's being questioned here, it's HERS!!!

Just a bit more than half a mile.

That's a nice distance to walk to and from, especially with a swim or hanging out on the pier in between. You game?

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That's what I thought. I was there post Ivan, but I can't remember if it was pre or post Katrina. I'm thinking post, but I remember more of the damage more to the west.


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Correction: You have beach. You just don't have an ocean.

Oh, you hush!

I have an idea what your shrink may do one of these days, but I'm not going to steal his thunder.
Go ahead and say what you think he's going to do to me, it can't be any worse than the things going through my overactive imagination right now. Either way, I'm kind of dreading my next session. He didn't come out and say it, but he just seems like he's got something up that sleeve. Whatever it is, I hope it works.



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Greg did what he did because that's what he was trained to do......save a buddy!


He did what many would have done, what I would have done, what many would have done.
You were spared he was not. It was destiny. You must move on. He is with you every day.
I do not really know you, many do not know you. However, many feel your pain.
Many can understand how you feel. We are here for you. You, like Jack, are an
inspiration for me. You are faced with such physical diversity, EVERY day, but you push on!

I am not a doctor, I am not an educated man. I am "Joe average" I got my degree in
life from the "school of hard knocks!" I see determination, grit and drive in you!
You are a great person, you should not feel guilty for Greg's death. He broke cover
to aid a comrade. Many have done it, many WILL do it.


Bracelets in the making.........promise with all my heart! : hugs:
I don't disagree that Greg did what he was trained to do, or with the fact that he's a hero in more than one sense of the word. I do find myself wondering what he had to be thinking when he waited, then ran out knowing there was an Afghani in real close range still shooting. But I'll always wonder things like that.

Destiny, yeah. I've always believed in that, that some things are predetermined. Or that things happen for a reason. And you're smarter than you think. So many of you inspire me in your own way, inspire me to get better when I'd rather give up.
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Old 03-29-2011, 17:17   #7031
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.....I don't disagree that Greg did what he was trained to do, or with the fact that he's a hero in more than one sense of the word. I do find myself wondering what he had to be thinking when he waited, then ran out knowing there was an Afghani in real close range still shooting. But I'll always wonder things like that.

Destiny, yeah. I've always believed in that, that some things are predetermined. Or that things happen for a reason. And you're smarter than you think. So many of you inspire me in your own way, inspire me to get better when I'd rather give up.

We've had this, "you were spared for a reason" discussion before. The screwed up
part about life is always trying to figure out what the heck the "reason" is.
You're a strong willed Lady, you do not give yourself as much credit as you should.
Yep, you have some medical issues, yep, you have some emotional issues.
Life is all about learning how to deal with all those issues without going crazy!

I'll be looking for that "Shining Star" tonight!
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Nope. Not telling.
Guess I'll find out soon enough.....


Now to try the sleep thing again, damn nightmare was just waiting on me this time.
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Old 03-30-2011, 00:43   #7034
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Now to try the sleep thing again, damn nightmare was just waiting on me this time.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:10   #7035
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Now to try the sleep thing again, damn nightmare was just waiting on me this time.
Wolfe I hope you were able to sleep at least for a little while

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I have some ideas what he might have in mind also. We should know soon enough.

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We've had this, "you were spared for a reason" discussion before. The screwed up
part about life is always trying to figure out what the heck the "reason" is.
You're a strong willed Lady, you do not give yourself as much credit as you should.
Yep, you have some medical issues, yep, you have some emotional issues.
Life is all about learning how to deal with all those issues without going crazy!

I'll be looking for that "Shining Star" tonight! :
feewrenchbndr you may be too late on the going crazy part.

I think we all want to know the reason something like this happens to us but you have seen a part of the reason and I suspect the rest of your life will be more of that same. I think you will do a lot of good in the world even if not in the expected way. Just look how much good you are doing for others even in here.

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I don't disagree that Greg did what he was trained to do, or with the fact that he's a hero in more than one sense of the word. I do find myself wondering what he had to be thinking when he waited, then ran out knowing there was an Afghani in real close range still shooting. But I'll always wonder things like that.

Destiny, yeah. I've always believed in that, that some things are predetermined. Or that things happen for a reason. And you're smarter than you think. So many of you inspire me in your own way, inspire me to get better when I'd rather give up.
I would bet that he was thinking something like that if he did not try to help you that you would die out there and he could not live with himself if he allowed that to happen. He knew the risks and obviously felt the reward outweighed the risk he was taking.

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Hey!!!!! You quit trying to scare Engineer off! :: Or are you trying to steal him away?

My doc was due back today, but I didn't see him. He may just not have been around when I went in to see my terrorist. No change the last few nights in my nightmares, but I've been getting very little sleep, especially the last few days. BTW, my terrorist made me cry today. Who wants to chase him around with a bat?

My shrink didn't tear into me bad today, I think he cut me a break because I went in with the news that Skidoo's brother had died just hours before. I really think he had something else up his sleeve, but instead he asked be a bunck of stuff about Skidoo's family and any effect this has on me.

He asked how I found out (his sister's FB page), had I met the brother (yes), how many times (once). When did we meet (when I flew to WV in September), where did we meet (at the airport, then all of them that came to meet me went out to dinner). Why did they all want to meet me like that (because I sent the police to Skidoo's house when he had his stroke). Did I think he was a good person (yes), did they seem like a close family (very), are they anything like my family (night and day), would I trade my family for one like that (I think so), plus a bunch more stuff that I can't think of now. He also asked me to pass along his condolences to the family and friends.
What will you do if I do steal him away? You have no guns so shooting me would be out of the question. I can outrun you also.

I would happily chase your terrorist and even your shrink around with a bat if they were not trying to help you. Sometimes the cure is painful.

Did your shrink not already know all this stuff he asked you? I thought you talked to him about all of this back when it happened? Or did he say more than you posted?
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Wolfe I hope you were able to sleep at least for a little while

I think we all want to know the reason something like this happens to us but you have seen a part of the reason and I suspect the rest of your life will be more of that same. I think you will do a lot of good in the world even if not in the expected way. Just look how much good you are doing for others even in here.

I would bet that he was thinking something like that if he did not try to help you that you would die out there and he could not live with himself if he allowed that to happen. He knew the risks and obviously felt the reward outweighed the risk he was taking.

What will you do if I do steal him away? You have no guns so shooting me would be out of the question. I can outrun you also.: tongueout:

I would happily chase your terrorist and even your shrink around with a bat if they were not trying to help you. Sometimes the cure is painful.

Did your shrink not already know all this stuff he asked you? I thought you talked to him about all of this back when it happened? Or did he say more than you posted?
If you steal him away from me I'll find some other way to deal with you. I'm you know...

I got a couple hours sleep last night, I'm hoping for more tonight. I took my meds a while ago, waiting for them to do what they're paid to do.

You're probably right about him thinking I'd die out there and he was right about that. I just have to shake my head in awe that he had the stones to run out when there was someone right nearby shooting at him. Like I've said, I like to think I'd have done the same think, but I might have been too scared to move.

If you won't go after my terrorist would you at least take the bat to my shrink?

He knows all that, I think he just wanted to be sure I wasn't hiding anything from myself. That's the way he's said it before, hiding something from myself. He seemed most concerned that I found out from his sister's facebook post.



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Nope. Not telling.
So I suppose you want me to tell you what the bastard did to me today.....

He dragged the bench in again, had me lay back down on it as close to the way I did then that I could. Then he got behind the rocks (his desk) again and told me this time I had to call out to Greg and ask him to come help me because I'd die if he didn't.

Well, I couldn't do it. Every time I tried to make myself say that all that came out was "Stay down!", or similar. He kept trying to get me to ask Greg for help and when I couldn't say it like I meant it he finally said "So you really want Greg to let you die? Have you forgotten that someone else that you care about will die too because of your choice?"

Bastard!
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Veteran's Perspective

I don't know if this post will be good or bad for you LW, but my intent is to offer another perspective in that you are a member of a distinguished club. I admit to taking this from another forum and am will to do time for it if necessary because I believe it is important - well, to me at least.

Vietnam Veterans...Welcome Home!

March 30, 2011 was officially proclaimed, by Congress, as "Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans Day"....

Soooo...to all my Brothers, the forgotten generation, who never got a hug, a handshake, a Thank You...to them I say Welcome Home Brother...To those that made the ultimate sacrifice, may you rest in peace...To those that were surely left behind, You will never be forgotten!!!

WELCOME HOME VIETNAM VETERANS

Some words from a fellow Vietnam Vet ....

ANOTHER TIME, ANOTHER PLACE, ANOTHER WAR

We are old men now, graying, grandparents,
those of us who are still alive.

We are black and white and yellow and red
and every shade in between
We are crippled, some in body, some in mind,
all in soul
We bled and we died and we came home where
we bled and died some more
We came home to an indifferent
and uncaring nation
And we left more than blood
in a far and distant land

We are old men now, graying, grandparents
those of us who are still alive

We watch our sons, our daughters return
from yet another far and distant land
We watch and weep, weep bitter tears
for a generation, a youth lost
But also tears of joy, tears for a nation,
a new beginning, tears for yellow ribbons
on the Central Boulevards of Hometown, USA
It was a long time coming, our welcome home
Through misty, half-closed eyes, we remember,
and imagine, imagine we see our own names,
just a faint imprint, a ghost-like image,
but our own names on those signs
We see the names and the ribbons
on the Central Boulevards of Hometown, USA
and we remember another time,
another place, another war.

We are old men now, graying, grandparents
those of us who are still alive.

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So I suppose you want me to tell you what the bastard did to me today.....

He dragged the bench in again, had me lay back down on it as close to the way I did then that I could. Then he got behind the rocks (his desk) again and told me this time I had to call out to Greg and ask him to come help me because I'd die if he didn't.

Well, I couldn't do it. Every time I tried to make myself say that all that came out was "Stay down!", or similar. He kept trying to get me to ask Greg for help and when I couldn't say it like I meant it he finally said "So you really want Greg to let you die? Have you forgotten that someone else that you care about will die too because of your choice?"

Bastard!
Well, that still wasn't it, but I'll bet that made you think.
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Well, that still wasn't it, but I'll bet that made you think.
Still wasn't what? What you thought my shrink was going to do?

Made me think, yeah. Made me scream and cry even more.

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Still wasn't what? What you thought my shrink was going to do?

Made me think, yeah. Made me scream and cry even more.

Bastard.
I'm so sorry you have to go through all this.
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Still wasn't what? What you thought my shrink was going to do?

Made me think, yeah. Made me scream and cry even more.

Bastard.
I'm sorry. I know it's painful for you.
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Still wasn't what? What you thought my shrink was going to do?

Made me think, yeah. Made me scream and cry even more.

Bastard.
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I'm so sorry you have to go through all this.

Wolfe, I'm sorry too. I am glad that this shrink is getting through to you though. All of what you are feeling is part of healing.

Magnus, maybe you should post a pic of your new baby here for LW.
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.......So I suppose you want me to tell you what the bastard did to me today.....

He dragged the bench in again, had me lay back down on it as close to the way I did then that I could. Then he got behind the rocks (his desk) again and told me this time I had to call out to Greg and ask him to come help me because I'd die if he didn't.

Well, I couldn't do it. Every time I tried to make myself say that all that came out was "Stay down!", or similar. He kept trying to get me to ask Greg for help and when I couldn't say it like I meant it he finally said "So you really want Greg to let you die? Have you forgotten that someone else that you care about will die too because of your choice?"

Bastard!
I hate to say it, but your Shrink is a smart cookie!
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Magnus2131 that dog is so cute!

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Wolfe I agree with both of them. This is an example of having to make you feel pain in order to help you heal.

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I can tell that it was also. How are you feeling today? Was BobInTX right about it making you think?
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Magnus if the Vikings stay in MN, I'll look for Lil Annie some clothes. How many pounds is she? She is so cute.
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I wish there was something I could do, something I could give, some way to bargain with God to help you through this. I pray...and I know he will answer my prayers. The hardest part is, it's in his own time...we have to be patient. It's not easy to be patient when you see how much your friend is hurting, how much she suffers.

I would give ANYTHING, EVERYTHING to make you whole again. I don't think I'm alone in that either.

I'm crying, it hurts me to know you couldn't call out for help knowing it would save your life and that of skiddoo too. Please realize, your life has meaning...worth...you are WORTH IT to your friends!
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I got nothing. You and your friends who lost their lives are all heroes. Somewhere in your heart of hearts, you've got to know that.
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Magnus if the Vikings stay in MN, I'll look for Lil Annie some clothes. How many pounds is she? She is so cute.
Good question, she will be 6 months old April 7. She is very tiny, guess I'll have to weigh her.
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