[bac1023]

Originally Posted by ilgunguygt

I can see what he is saying that it appears to not be much special, but sometimes being uncommon is enough.

If there is demand, yes. Rare means nothing from a value standpoint without demand.

I have some extremely rare handguns that aren't worth any more today than when they were built.

[R0CKETMAN]

Originally Posted by ilgunguygt

It does not surprise me, usually when a guy has in sig line that he owns 10 glocks he isnt going to appreciate something like a 1911. Usually the statement is made "I could buy three glocks for the price of that!"

Agreed....right on....bet he's never even held a 1911

[faawrenchbndr]

Enough of the bull**** smack talk,......go **** somewhere else!

[machinegun74]

Im thinking of selling my Pro Operator, just because I dont shoot it much.

Im at the point in my life where Im not a collector anymore. I think, dang thats a lot of reloading components sitting there I could be running through the stuff I do shoot.

Id hate to have to make those choices on a large collection of "not your run of the mill" factory stuff.

[glock2740]

You're right on Rocketman.

[brianfede]

Originally Posted by jrs93accord

Offense taken. Do not insult what you do not know and do not own.

I don't think he was trying to insult you at all. I was actually interested in your answer on the worth of the firearm and why you thought it could fetch a certain price if you sold it. I have no idea if the gun is worth $500 or $5000. I am, probably like others on this forum, just trying to educate myself about different 1911's etc. and the only way to do that is to ask questions.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by brianfede

I don't think he was trying to insult you at all. I was actually interested in your answer on the worth of the firearm and why you thought it could fetch a certain price if you sold it. I have no idea if the gun is worth $500 or $5000. I am, probably like others on this forum, just trying to educate myself about different 1911's etc. and the only way to do that is to ask questions.

I think what James is saying is that he doesn't want to sell it by mentioning that price.

I can't comment, because I never held one. Stainless autos of any kind built in the 1980's were notorious for galling and poor fitting. Stainless steel itself back then was not up to today's standards. By looking at the pics, I'd say its much better fitted than an AMT Hardballer and probably closer to a Randall, which were two stainless 1911s from the same time period.

There really is no good way to value that model, because they're so rare and don't come up for sale. Its basically worth what someone is willing to pay. Personally, I'd be willing to go up to $800 or maybe even $900 for it because I love stuff you don't see every day.

Do I think a 1980's stainless steel 1911 could be built as well as today's $900 1911s? Hell no, but I'd pay that just to have something off the beaten path since I'm a collector. If James ever decides to sell it, I'd make a nice home for it on the shelf with my other rare 1911s.

If someone is willing to go more than $900, more power to James. I hope he gets it.

[jrs93accord]

Originally Posted by brianfede

I don't think he was trying to insult you at all. I was actually interested in your answer on the worth of the firearm and why you thought it could fetch a certain price if you sold it. I have no idea if the gun is worth $500 or $5000. I am, probably like others on this forum, just trying to educate myself about different 1911's etc. and the only way to do that is to ask questions.

Brian is partly correct in assuming I do not want to sell the firearm in question. It is the most beautiful 1911 I have and have ever seen. It would be a shame to let it go. The price I mentioned was purely off the top of my head. There is nothing that sets the precedence for pricing a 1911 like this one. From my understanding from the person I bought it from, it was custom made back in the 80's for the gentleman he bought it from and the serial was specificly assigned to that gentleman. Another part of the story I was told by another person is that these guns were made to order by a man who did the work out of his workshop. That could explain why the market did not see many of these 1911s. Back then, milling a stainless steel 1911 was something very new. It would have also been a very expensive venture. The gunsmith would have had to be a Master Machinist, especially when it comes to machining a pistol this nice. I have not been able to sunstantiate anything on this pistol via the internet. I have thought about calling Dan Coonan to see if he remembers, saw, or heard anything about these back in the mid-80's.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by jrs93accord

Brian is partly correct in assuming I do not want to sell the firearm in question. It is the most beautiful 1911 I have and have ever seen. It would be a shame to let it go. The price I mentioned was purely off the top of my head. There is nothing that sets the precedence for pricing a 1911 like this one. From my understanding from the person I bought it from, it was custom made back in the 80's for the gentleman he bought it from and the serial was specificly assigned to that gentleman. Another part of the story I was told by another person is that these guns were made to order by a man who did the work out of his workshop. That could explain why the market did not see many of these 1911s. Back then, milling a stainless steel 1911 was something very new. It would have also been a very expensive venture. The gunsmith would have had to be a Master Machinist, especially when it comes to machining a pistol this nice. I have not been able to sunstantiate anything on this pistol via the internet. I have thought about calling Dan Coonan to see if he remembers, saw, or heard anything about these back in the mid-80's.

It would be interesting to see if you could get more info on it, James.