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I'm pretty much screwed. Not really prepared in any way, shape or form 3 3.26%
Somewhat prepared. I'd be okay for a few days to maybe a week or so 44 47.83%
Fairly well prepared. Maybe not forever but could go for many months, perhaps even several years 34 36.96%
I'm self reliant. Electricity is a luxury not a necessity. I could survive and thrive without it 11 11.96%
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Old 08-25-2014, 21:53   #61
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My downfall is electric for our deep well. I have a large pool and pond, but when the fuel is gone my generator is worthless for fresh water, long term, water pumping. I'd have to start using the big berkey, and treat or boil water. I've put off buying a deep well manual hand pump set-up because of the expense, I guess it's time to put up or shut up. No electric would be a GREAT inconvenience, but we could manage with the exception of water. Actually I'd hate to lose electric for refrigeration more than water but refrigeration is only a convenience.
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Old 08-25-2014, 21:57   #62
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I have a knowledge base in this area..

..both as a hobby business and professionally.


Some pics of the AIR-X Marine micro-wind turbines I have been rebuilding since yesterday..

(besides lots of other issues/multitasking )

...started/finished one yesterday & started/almost finished the 2nd today.... (Commutator Assemblies, Commutator Brushes, Commutator Bearings, Main Rotor Bearings, Main PCB, etc)


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To bad these thing cost so crappin much, or I'd have a couple also...
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Old 08-25-2014, 22:45   #63
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My alternative energy efforts have much more modest. Basically, I have enough power for some lights and to power a laptop for a while. It's fantastic though, to see the accomplishments of some of you experts - thanks for sharing!
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Old 08-26-2014, 04:35   #64
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To bad these thing cost so crappin much, or I'd have a couple also...
Yep....they do...

..especially considering the cost of a standalone tower.


That being said I have an AIR 403 in a 48 VDC configuration. .

..spare high performance blades, lattice tower & other parts.


But for real power..

..I have 3 phase 240/480 VAC Industrial Motors in storage..

..for single phase 120 vac injection with 240 vac out.


The backbone of my "Oh Crap" system is the 20 KW (44 KW surge) of Exeltech MX Inverters in EMP resistant storage..

http://exeltech.com/products/inverte...ve-2k-watt-mx/

..along with a bunch of other RE components..

..& the knowledge base to make them work.

(Also 1,000+ gallons of stabilized diesel, a couple of low rpm fuel efficient diesel Gensets {one new in storage, spare parts & supplies}, etc.... )


Running a grid tied Xantrex/Trace 8 KW (20 KW surge) with a battery bank of 16 Golf Cart in a 48 VDC series/parallel config right now..

..but very likely the system would be toast along with most everything else nationwide that is currently grid interconnected.


I have the feeling (post-event) my Iroda Solderpro 150 Gas Soldering Iron Kit, spare tips, stock of butane & micro soldering techniques might get some use!
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Old 08-26-2014, 05:03   #65
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No electric would be a GREAT inconvenience, but we could manage with the exception of water. Actually I'd hate to lose electric for refrigeration more than water but refrigeration is only a convenience.

Post-event....I look at having electricity in my home/shop as a "game changer"..

..whether it be enhanced surveillance & intrusion detection capabilities (especially at night)..

..along with the the use of lighting, power tools/equipment, water, sewer, HVAC, refrigeration, pneumatics, hydraulics, venting/air exhaust, recharging cordless devices, etc.


Most modern homes were designed with having plentiful electrical power available...

..poor substitute for a cave without electrical power!


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Old 08-26-2014, 07:29   #66
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This thread is quickly becoming stacked with good information! My thanks to all who have, are and continue to participate.

76 votes so far!
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Old 08-26-2014, 11:57   #67
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Since a severe blizzard/ice storm in 1998, we lost our electric, we have always kept a minimum 72hr backup on most common sense preps. Cold house was warmed by stovetop/ kero heater. We let water drip in a couple of spots. Snow was over kneecap high-closer to hip high in drifts. I shoveled for 2 days.(we have a snow blower now)
Nat gas was our saver for this event.

Paper products ran a bit tight(plates-naps-cups) and melted snow to keep 2- 5gallon buckets for toilet use. We had a gas grill(bbq style), and cooked a lot of food to avoid spoiling. Due to cold, saved a lot outdoors in coolers, and neighbors all were helping each other.

Never felt the need for weapons, but were prepped with one by each door. Batteries were drained-had to borrow from the kids toys to keep radio on for news/music.
Played board games, cards, read books/mags, napped between snow shoveling.

Nope, didn't want to try for weeks, 72 hrs was plenty. We have had a few 8-12 hrs outages, a walk in the park now. Hurricane folks have my respect.
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According to Wikipedia, in 1977 NYC, a black out that lasted 25 hours resulted in 550 police officers being injured, 4500 looters were arrested, 1616 stores were damaged by looters and 1037 fires were responded to by fire fighters.

Now, what if police, EMT's and fire fighters were unable to respond....
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Old 08-27-2014, 14:27   #69
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Now, what if police, EMT's and fire fighters were unable to respond....
I remember reading about that one..

..better yet..

..imagine if the looters, rioters & other criminal miscreants knew there would not be any official response..

..(for all practical purposes)...ever!


If a CONUS-HEMP(s) or Carrington-level event...

..the New York outage & aftermath would pale in comparison to the "new normal"...

..more like a semi-permanent nationwide post-Katrina New Orleans...IMO!


Not trying to be a sensationalist..

..simply a realist.


The solar event of 1859 was simply a blink in time in the grand scheme of things..

..no doubt at all there will be a repeat at a future point in time!


And the ability to deliver a CONUS-central HEMP may be soon within the capability of 2nd tier hostile countries such as Iran or North Korea.


I strongly believe either would be a world history defining event....

..possibly more so than any other disaster or calamity in recorded human history. .

..and feel it only prudent as a society we safeguard against both.


And our current level of vulnerability does not give me a warm & fuzzy feeling!



As always...

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Old 08-27-2014, 14:40   #70
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Toss this into the mix:

Russia possibly tied to JP Morgan hacking

China, Russia, N. Korea, Iran and the list goes on. Now instead of banking (which in and of itself could cause chaos) let's instead say it is the power grid that is hacked. Not a pretty picture.
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Old 08-28-2014, 19:35   #71
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Toss this into the mix


Yep....


Wiki has a list of major outages worldwide...

(at least one being a cyber attack like you are mentioning)


..causes were fairly mundane (bad relay, circuit boards, windstorms, forklift, truck, etc)


..to more interesting (cyber attack, geomagnetic storm, hurricane, etc)



The extended outages caused by Hurricanes Katrina, Gustav & Rita were a wakeup call to many I know..


..and the more robust setups like mine were a godsend during the sweltering humid days that followed.



Needless to say..


..my setup got MUCH more discussion during that time than in the last decade.


Reliable & Plentiful electricity basically is completely taken for granted..


..until no it is no longer Reliable & Plentiful.


Then the panic starts!
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