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01-26-2008, 20:20
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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01-31-2008, 22:23
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#227
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 13
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Why CCW
I was actually robbed and then had a guy get of his car in traffic and try to beat me with it. I had had enough. I bought a Glock 19 and took the CCW.
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02-02-2008, 11:25
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Jackson Wagoner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Inside your head
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I don't know...
I like the idea of being able to legally carry for protection, but to me this is a form of registration, which I oppose.
I'm disabled and know that I could be an easy target for those who would do me and my loved ones harm. Perhaps I'm being delusional in fearing CCW as a form of registration. Perhaps those that would take my guns already know what kind and how many I already have, and not getting a CCW because of my resistance to a form of registration is futile.
My wife thinks that my acquisition of firearms and ammo is not warranted because we live in a rural area that is relatively devoid of crime. I disagree and will continue to acquire, possess and practice with those firearms that I own and those that I will acquire in the future for as long as I am able.
I live in a state where it is legal to "open carry" and legal to carry concealed with the ammo (mag or speed loader) removed and in separate pocket(better than a rock or knife). I've legally packed a gun for years. CCW?  I don't know.
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02-02-2008, 13:29
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glock1911
I like the idea of being able to legally carry for protection, but to me this is a form of registration, which I oppose.
I'm disabled and know that I could be an easy target for those who would do me and my loved ones harm. Perhaps I'm being delusional in fearing CCW as a form of registration. Perhaps those that would take my guns already know what kind and how many I already have, and not getting a CCW because of my resistance to a form of registration is futile.
My wife thinks that my acquisition of firearms and ammo is not warranted because we live in a rural area that is relatively devoid of crime. I disagree and will continue to acquire, possess and practice with those firearms that I own and those that I will acquire in the future for as long as I am able.
I live in a state where it is legal to "open carry" and legal to carry concealed with the ammo (mag or speed loader) removed and in separate pocket(better than a rock or knife). I've legally packed a gun for years. CCW?  I don't know.
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If they come to take your guns because of the "registration" you filled out, it's time to use them. Until then there's no reason to irrationally fear the government, that they'll take your guns.
Until then, at least.
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02-02-2008, 15:00
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Jackson Wagoner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Inside your head
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I don't consider a fear of the government to be irrational.
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02-02-2008, 15:04
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Location: Central Virginia
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This isn't the forum, and definitely not the thread to discuss the rationality of government firearms registration.
Thanks
RussP
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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02-02-2008, 20:42
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Jackson Wagoner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Inside your head
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My sincere apologies.
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02-02-2008, 22:41
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About 15 years ago I got into a confrontation with someone who, I have reason to believe, was a cocaine addict. I decided to start carrying a .32 in my back pocket and a .45 in a range bag.
About five years ago, I was paying a cashier at a convenience store and she asked me for help. She thought the only other patron was going to rob her, and I have to admit she had good reason for believing this. I didn't think my .32 was up to the challenge so I told her I'd be right back. Sounds like Arnold doesn't it? Anyway it took a couple of minutes for me to get my .45 and holster. When I returned to the store the presumed BG had left. Since then I decided to carry something more powerful.
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02-03-2008, 14:56
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto/Buffalo/Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coachg
I decided to carry when I finally accepted that society is going in the wrong direction and i learned that it really doesn't matter who is pretending to run the country. When the SHTF in the next few years after the economy collapses and the NAU comes online I decided I better be prepared.
In PA it's a no-brainer. Walked into the Sheriff's office. Put down $46 and within 1/2 hour was walking out with my laminated CCW.
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Laminated? Laminated?!!?
All I got from PA was a small piece of paper with my photograph scotch taped to it and my particulars on it. Looks more like a coat check stub than anything else. Guess they are laminating them now... mine is about a year old and I love PA and its AG... a guy with bazongas. Still, Phily can be some scarey place especially after dark.
All I want for Christmas now is a nationwide recognized reciprocity law. You got a PA CCW license? Good in ALL states of the union, like your driver's license. Make sense?
And to the fellow posting about the .32? First, I would be very careful about getting in the way of someone who might be having a domestic and I would be very careful about "brandishing". However, you have the right idea about guns for self defense... come big or don't come at all. I carry 9mm at a bare minimum but much prefer to carry a .45 with at least 8 - 10 rounds of fast, light JHP. And the fact is that I do unless circumstances dictate otherwise... it depends on my dress code for the moment; my cover garment really dictates what I carry. If I am wearing a jacket I will be carrying a .45 for sure. Otherwise it's a 9mm with Gold Dots or Federal Hydra Shock Law Enforcement Self Defense whatever. The best possible tools for the job always. And leave the policing to the police if possible.... it is a tough call but training is a big help. Plenty of training. Don't get yourself in the middle of something that is not what you think it is.... and if you do happen to get yourself in the middle of something, be trained. At the very least do you know the best ways to avoid taking a hit yourself? Always move sideways if possible. Always increase distance if possible. Always play for cover if possible. The BG's plans get all messed up. Just don't let a lucky shot take off the top of your head like my friend's dad did some 45 years ago by a prominent local bandit. He had the drop on the BG but was a nice guy and hollered something at him... like "stop or I'll shoot". The BG swung around, shooting from the hip and planted a big one right between his eyes taking the top of his skull right off. It landed two stories up on the balcony of an apartment building that ANOTHER friend lived in. You cannot make sXXt like this up. I was about ten years old at the time. I was playing in the park across the street when it all took place in an otherwise quiet uneventful neighborhood. There has not been a shooting in the neighborhood since with the exception of a fellow who shot his wife in a domestic about 30 years ago. Nuff said here. Sorry to babble along. Mr. Blanc, BTW, did not carry a gun. He was in the bank manager's office and bank managers at that time all had revolvers .38/.357's. He didn't stand a chance at that range. The "Beatle Bandit" was using a sawed off something.
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02-03-2008, 14:58
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto/Buffalo/Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TuppyFinn
About 15 years ago I got into a confrontation with someone, whom I have reason to believe, was a cocaine addict. I decided to start carrying a .32 in my back pocket and a .45 in a range bag.
About five years ago, I was paying a cashier at a convenience store and she asked me for help. She thought the only other patron was going to rob her, and I have to admit she had good reason for believing this. I didn't think my .32 was up to the challenge so I told her I'd be right back. Sounds like Arnold doesn't it? Anyway it took a couple of minutes for me to get my .45 and holster. When I returned to the store the presumed BG had left. Since then I decided to carry something more powerful.
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.32's are now prohibited weapons in Canada. Too many guys getting shot full of holes while trying to stop BGs? Nope. The government just decided they were bad guns.... now they are registering all firearms in the country. Wonder what could be next? England. Australia. So glad I am Yankee and 4-5 years from retirement back to the south. \
SAVE YOUR DIXIE CUPS FOR THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN!
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Families that shoot together; stay together!
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02-03-2008, 20:33
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Growing up my mother went through many hard times that remind me to carry.
She was held hostage by two armed robbers in Kmart.
My parents owned a small business here in sunny S. Florida that was robbed three times. She was robbed by gun point twice and once beaten with a metal bar.
My parents home had been robbed 4 times. 3 times in one location (one time we came home in the act and she restled with one of the three robbers trying to escape) and 1 time in another home years later where they pepper sprayed the trained dog in the house.
I also remember reading somewhere that pointed out that on the news you never hear the crimes police prevented. Instead every night you hear about all the crimes that have happened throught day.
Be safe
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02-03-2008, 21:35
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: College Station, Texas
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I'm not stupid. I can see what happens out in the world. Do no want to be a victim.
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"Putting all of these textual elements together, we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation." - USSC Justice Antonin Scalia
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02-08-2008, 14:12
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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I decided to carry because of all your stories of being robbed, mugged, almost rapped (or seeing someone almost rapped) and I decided that I don't want a story like that to convince myself or others to carry. You all are not that different from me.
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02-10-2008, 13:55
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DIRTY KUFFAR
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Miami
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glockanatorrrrr
Actually that is the best idea. This way the shattering of the glass won't be as bad.
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never mind...
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If you're gonna burn our flag make sure you wrap yourself in it first! I'm no pro-gun..I'm pro-Constitution
Liberalism is the quest for a life without guilt and conservatism is the quest for a life without fear. We all act accordingly. Pro Deo Et Patria.
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02-10-2008, 15:46
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piolin
Well, think again, you can put your handgun out of battery...
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Maybe they don't know if your slide or barrel gets pressed backwards a bit, your gun no boom.
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02-13-2008, 08:01
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Old Coot
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northern Arizona
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I made the conscious decision to get a CCW permit when I rode to the feed&grain on the outskirts of town (wearing, as usual in the saddle, my New Vaquero .357) and I opened my duster to get to my wallet ... in front of an off-duty cop.
I was lucky (this was prior to my lawsuit against the local law-dogs) and only got a butt-chewing and a business card for a local CCW instructor.
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I have no brags to stick here; like Zaphod Beeblebrox, I'm "just this guy, you know?" ...but I'll watch your back if I see you need it, without askin' you nothin' in return. I never thought my neighbor had to live next door.
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02-14-2008, 21:19
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h8tr
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chihuahuan Desert, TX
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Tonight at midnite I turn 21. I will be going to get mine at 8a.m. when the doors open because I CAN. I've had some pretty close calls, having had friends that lived in the worse (not just the bad part,even worse) part of town, and looking down the barrel of a gun and feeling helpless is not something I want to go through again. I now have a fiance' and am getting married this august, and it will be MY responsibility to protect her. I would die if something happened to her, and I'm going to carry 24/7 to do everything in my ability to stop something from happening. and it also helps that I've had handguns for a couple years, and it sucks not being able to carry them concealed. After VA tech and all the other recent shootings, I decided that I will carry all the time, not just a couple nights a week when I go out. I've loved guns since I was young, love shooting them, love hunting with them, just fascinated by them. Even if I had none of the previous reasons, I would get it because I'm an American citizen, and I can. I won't be a victim. Neither will my family if I can help it.
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02-14-2008, 21:21
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h8tr
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chihuahuan Desert, TX
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And after joining GT last year, reading stories on here every day, it just made me more anxious to get my permit.
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02-15-2008, 23:34
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02-16-2008, 22:12
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h8tr
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chihuahuan Desert, TX
Posts: 4,678
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haha
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02-17-2008, 18:37
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NRA Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Memphis, Tennessee
Posts: 244
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What made me decide????
I moved to Memphis, Tennessee. Consistently one of the top 10 most violent cities in the U.S.
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02-19-2008, 21:15
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: USSA
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It was never a thought for me. I grew up with guns. My dad had a good size collection. He bought me a .22 when I was 6, ( I could only use it with him). By the time I was 16 I was into hunting and had a few rifles and shotguns. Both my parents had carry permits, so it was just a fact that I would get a permit when I was 18. Ive carried for almost 20 years now. Im sorry to read so many of you have had to face such defining moments.... Stay safe all.
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02-20-2008, 16:36
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~ Old Warrior ~
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: N. Nevada
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For me it was that the law finally allowed it in my state.
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ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!
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02-24-2008, 23:50
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: las vegas
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i have collected 11 pistols over the last 8 years and never gave a thought to getting a ccw. that was until about 3 weeks ago when my son was born. just took the ccw class today and will be heading down to the local pd to turn in the paper work tommorrow.
for some reason i never thought much about my safety but protecting my new family is now on the top of my list
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02-25-2008, 19:50
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Texas
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No particular reason other than desire to keep living. I take responsibility for my own personal safety and firearms have a place in that.
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