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09-09-2007, 21:58
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#101
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I shoot guns.
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Memphis, TN
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I turned 21.
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09-10-2007, 09:43
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#102
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bama
Posts: 104
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i had just got stationed in Montgomery AL, first day me and my wife moved in our new apartment someone came in and stole my wallet off the kitchen counter while me and my wife were in the bed room. constant shootings all over the city, city police or sheriffs making vists once or twice a day to my complex every day. and i live in the "nice" part of montgomery.
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09-10-2007, 19:52
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#103
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 28
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CCW Reason
Talk to cops, the only real, uninterpreted way to carry a gun in your car, going to the range, ect, is to have a CCW. Forget what you heard, in a paper bag, in the trunk unloaded, on the dash, exposed on your hip...
Walk down the street with a gun on your hip, except in some podunk town in AZ and the cops will show up, at gunpoint.
A CCW allows you to carry and not be branded someone who is concealing a gun illegaly, it's $50 worth of insurance.
I never carry a gun, but I drive to the range, gun stores afterworld with the gun in a bag, in my car, that's considered concealed by many.
IMHO, having a CCW for all practical purposes is the only way to transport a gun without any issues.
If I need to have a gun where I live, then it's time to move, not safe for me, or family. If I need it for work, then I made that decision to carry.
If you get into a shooting, then having a CCW means you were atleast checked out, and you went through a class, that means you have some reasonable sense of training and that your somewhat upstanding, that helps you.
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09-10-2007, 19:56
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#104
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NE, PA
Posts: 660
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Re: CCW Reason
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Originally posted by SSG
If I need to have a gun where I live, then it's time to move, not safe for me, or family.
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No violent crime where you live or no chance of it!! WOW
Where do you live so I can move.
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09-10-2007, 20:15
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#105
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Madison AL
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I turned 21. I had been waiting for years at that point.
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09-10-2007, 20:19
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#106
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 28
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Live someplace nice.
Oregon - Pacific NW.
Plenty of poeple carry up here, almost a given, but I still haven't heard of a mugging, car jacking, ...a few home invasions, but they were druggies on druggies....
Low crime. Hey if you want to live in a high crime place, your choice, don't ***** about it.
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09-11-2007, 00:33
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#107
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was "Patronus"
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 2,711
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Re: CCW Reason
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Originally posted by SSG
I never carry a gun
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Why not? Not a challenge, just a question.
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09-11-2007, 01:03
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#108
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 28
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Carrying a gun.
I shoot three times a week +,
carrying a gun is uncomfortable, a helluva responsibility in a place with little to no violent crime, don't need to.
Guns aremt the only options for self defense..it's really a last resort, not a first resort...
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09-11-2007, 05:18
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#109
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GUNS=FREEDOM
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Israel
Posts: 5,514
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SSG, welcome to GlockTalk.
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Rust and bureaucrats. Freedom and vigilance. Front sight and trigger. Kindness and firepower. Situational awareness and tolerance. Safety and concealment. Taxes and allegiance. Love of man and surgical marksmanship. Once a soldier, always a soldier.
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09-11-2007, 09:18
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#110
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NE, PA
Posts: 660
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Re: Live someplace nice.
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Originally posted by SSG
Oregon - Pacific NW.
Plenty of poeple carry up here, almost a given, but I still haven't heard of a mugging, car jacking, ...a few home invasions, but they were druggies on druggies....
Low crime. Hey if you want to live in a high crime place, your choice, don't ***** about it.
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I moved from Allentown, Pa to N.E. Pa to get away from the "city" life. Since I moved I found there is crime no matter where you go.
This weekend where I live.
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc.../NEWS/70910018
I'll continue to carry.
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Support the troops and the war on terrorism
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09-11-2007, 09:19
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#111
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NE, PA
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Re: Carrying a gun.
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Originally posted by SSG
Guns aremt the only options for self defense..it's really a last resort, not a first resort...
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Agreed, but when you at your last resort where will you gun be?
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Support the troops and the war on terrorism
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09-11-2007, 10:13
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#112
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 472
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Better to have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it. And that's my motto about carrying a gun. I figure, as a civilian, I am also a member of the N. Texas miltia.
Also see the Second Amendment.
And keep in mind, not only are we given the ability to protect ourselves from the BG's, the second amendment is also there for civilians to protect ourselves against our own government and LE agencies.
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09-11-2007, 16:56
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#113
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NC
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I live in a small town in NC with a low crime rate, but I also realize that crime has no boundaries. The BGs dont care how nice my community is or how comftorable I feel about where I live. I see in the news everyday and hear from my friends and family about the increasing violence all around the country and I feel that it is my resonsibility to protect my friends, family and loved ones.
I grew up in a very pro gun family and have always had a huge intrest in firearms and hunting. I guess the defining moment actually took took place over 3 years of getting to know a lady that a have became very good friends with. Long story short she was beatin and abused by a former boyfriend many years ago and even raped in a parking lot in broad daylight. Since meeting her and learning her story and hearing just a fraction of some of the horrible things that have happined to her I decided I wanted to be prepaired to defend myself and my loved ones. That, along with my love for firearms and the right to keep and bear arms is the reason I carry.
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09-11-2007, 19:48
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#114
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Izzerwat
Posts: 1,200
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09-11-2007, 22:33
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#115
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was "Patronus"
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 2,711
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Quote:
Originally posted by r3dot
If there are people that are like this as kids, I can only imagine what they'll be like when they're of age (if they aren't in prison)
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Thanks for posting, r3dot. Here's to age 21. It sounds like you've had a few run-ins but have been lucky/smart enough to avoid making things worse. Armed or not, you're just trying to make it home at night. Good on you for making that happen many times over. Best of luck leading up to your 21st birthday.
As for the crazy criminals, I'd hope they're in prison, but that's a false hope--they aren't. Sure, violent criminals do some minimal jail/prison time, where they're truly educated in criminal tactics and have little else to do than lift weights and "talk shop" in their free time. But then they're released on "good behavior," and they're back on the street to engage in more mayhem.
So I'd add that another defining moment for me was when I learned about the revolving-door policies we currently have in the Dept. of Corrections throughout the nation.
"I work in Corrections. I know evil, and evil people are released into society every Tuesday."
-- Paraphrased from a Packing.org member a few years back
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11-29-2007, 10:38
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#116
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Im watching You
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: كافر
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To the Top just found this brining it back from the dead!
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What you cannot see will hurt you
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11-29-2007, 10:50
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#117
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Coastal, SC
Posts: 835
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Because it's my right to do so. Rights are like muscles, You don't use them then you'll lose them! As a LEO I don't need a CHL but as a citizen I have exercised my right to get one. I am also in the process of getting my non-resident CCW's from Utah, Florida, and Pennsylvania.
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11-29-2007, 10:55
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#118
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Enjoying life!
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Lost
Posts: 1,999
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I grew up with firearms. I had my first shotgun when I was 9 years old, and bought my first .22 LR when I was 12 (parents with me, of course). I got my first centerfire rifle when I was 10 I think, and started loading my own ammo accordingly (with strict instructions from my father). I got my first handgun when I was about 16, although I'd been shooting my father's before that.
I carried openly, and also in my truck, from the time I was a teen. So, when Arizona became a shall-issue state, it was only natural to also get a CCW permit.
It was no earth shattering decision on my part, for sure!
Daryl
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11-29-2007, 11:17
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#119
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Rip Lips
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: North Idaho
Posts: 7,166
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I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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11-29-2007, 12:00
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#120
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 178
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I don't think there was "one" defining moment for me, but there were a number of factors. My buddy has one and we shoot together a lot. There are also a number of "killer dogs" in our neighborhood and I have kids; also there have been stories of coyotoes and such. And of course, personal proection and I'd be amiss if I didn't say that one factor was the school shooting recently, although I'm not in school, stuff like that is a factor.
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11-29-2007, 12:07
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#121
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,419
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Because Minnesota went "Shall Issue", and I live in the hood!
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11-29-2007, 12:35
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#122
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Reaaly Old Fart
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 102
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenDrake
I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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That about sums it up for me. I live in Nebraska, a very right-wing State but where it's illegal to conceal carry in many towns. In fact, the further to the right- the more restrictive the laws. So much for the "liberal" aspect of anti-gun. Here, it's a matter of economics - "spend your money here, it's safe because we don't allow concealed carry".
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11-29-2007, 12:43
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#123
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Texas
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Fortunately I have no "defining moment" that made me decide to start carrying a gun. Truthfully, the thought had never really occurred to me until 2001 when I had the opportunity to take a free CHL course. Since it was free, I figured I might as well. So I did.
When I took my class the only handgun I owned was a Ruger P90. Needless to say it wasn't very concealable so I never carried. It wasn't until late 2001 when I bought a Taurus PT145 that I started actually carrying. By the way, that gun was promptly traded for my first Glock...the G30.
Now I pretty much carry all the time. There has only been one instance where I thought I MIGHT have to draw my gun. Fortunately I did not...and I hope it stays that way.
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11-29-2007, 14:26
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#124
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Im watching You
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: كافر
Posts: 587
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Good reads Keep them comming
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What you cannot see will hurt you
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11-29-2007, 17:10
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Port Richey, FL
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I got through the first 100 posts before skipping to post my own. I would first like to those of you that have been victims " Glad your here to tell your stories
I have always known I would get a permit and carry. As of this post. My Permit is still in the mail. I am 31 years of age. IMO I waited too long.
I grew up just outside NYC. My fathers business, which he owned 'till I was 25, and worked with for over 7 years, took me to some of the worst areas in that city. I have also seen enough atrocities around me to convince myself a permit, and the ability to carry was certainly in order.
Having lived in NY and Miami proper, I never ordered a permit. In NY the comom Knowledge is that you don't get a CCW unless you own a business, have been attacked or have political connections. In FL, until now, I was just lazy about it. For the record, I grew up in Nassau County NY. This is Chuck Shumers backyard, as well as, Carolyn McArthy. I remember when her Husband and Son were brutally murdered. I have been present too many times in a life threatening situation. I know I am lucky to be alive. Gun Control Laws do nothing to stop a criminal from harming the innocent.
The upcoming election and threat of a new AWB is what has prompted me to "Man UP" and procure a good stash of firearms and be prepared.
Having been raised in a conservative household has imbedded the RKBA in me for life. This is something I will share with my children. Personal Rights and Responsobilities are extremely important to me. My father served in Vietnam. He has not held a firearm since.
Really I just want to let you GT's know that I thank you for your commitment to your beliefs. We bear a heavy cross, and I wish you and your families unending peace.
PS. WHen can we get *****EDITED FOR POSTING VIOLATION*****spell check on this forum?
Last edited by RussP; 11-29-2007 at 18:14..
Reason: Posting Violation
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