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Old 11-21-2005, 18:22   #26
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Re: I am at a loss for words

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Have you considered duplicating the 10k rounds in one day torture test done on the SIG 220?
Sure, if you pay for the ammo
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Old 11-21-2005, 20:44   #27
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Try that on any other pistol. Glocks Rock and so does your thread. Very interesting.
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Old 11-21-2005, 20:55   #28
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Am sure glad I chose the G21 over the HK UPS.
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Old 11-21-2005, 23:42   #29
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Awesome tests, i'm also a member over at ar15.com and almost fell over in my chair when i saw that you threw that damn thing out the window of a plane! Now what I want you to do is go buy a Glock 23 and do it all over again, so I can feel good about my gun too.
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:23   #30
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Never a doubt but was great reading. I love mine too.
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Old 11-22-2005, 12:18   #31
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So do you turn it in for Warranty Work now?
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Old 11-22-2005, 12:20   #32
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Amazing thread, nicely done!
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Old 11-23-2005, 07:38   #33
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Excellent thread and testing

I almost cried when I saw the hk usp all messed up and abused. I've loved HKs for show, but Glocks for go.

I have to hurry off for work and didn't get through the whole thread so maybe it was addressed but as far as broken spring cups go...

I carry a g22 for leo work. During the yearly inspection by dept glock armorers, they found the spring cups were cracked. both were being held in by the tension of the spring and whatever else holds them in.

I was freaked cause i didn't know how long they had been like that. i was worried i was carrying a gun that would not fire. the armorer loaded the broken cups up int he gun and we went to the range.

after 46 rounds, all on my belt and in gun, i was satisfied I'd be OK. We had new cups on hand, but i don't worry if they break again.


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Old 11-23-2005, 13:46   #34
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So do you turn it in for Warranty Work now?
Why? Whats broken with it? All the videos I saw shows the gun in proper working order.

Ain't broke, why fix it?;c
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Old 11-23-2005, 17:16   #35
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Old 11-23-2005, 18:22   #36
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This needs to be stickied.

Links to your AR15.co thread were pretty common. You always got those "why would you do that to a perfectly good Glock" type of people, some were even mad that you did that. I always thought it was pretty informative in the box-of-truth type non-scientific testing kind of way.

BTW I love my G21 and will never give it up.

Just look out for those HK freaks trying to say that you set it up so thier gun will fail.

IIRC you also did some testing with a CZ and it faired quite well also. Glocks and CZs rule.
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Old 11-23-2005, 19:19   #37
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Old 11-23-2005, 19:28   #38
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After seeing all those pics,...I just feel
even more confident and proud of my Glock 21!

thanks for the pics and thread.
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Old 11-23-2005, 19:33   #39
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I honestly wonder how a Ruger P94, P95 or P97 would hold up to your tests. They're supposed to be pretty tough guns.
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Old 11-23-2005, 20:33   #40
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Absolutely Freaking Amazing! Thank you for verifying that my latest purchase was indeed an excellent choice. I kept hearing about Glocks amazing endurance and now I can say I've seen it. Great job on the tests.
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Old 11-23-2005, 20:45   #41
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Why? Whats broken with it? All the videos I saw shows the gun in proper working order.

Ain't broke, why fix it?;c
Uummm...the warranty work statement was meant as a joke I do believe. A funny one at that.
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Old 11-23-2005, 20:51   #42
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Yea the warranty work was a joke. I thought he might want to have it refinished and maybe the recoil assy replaced.
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Old 11-23-2005, 22:15   #43
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At this time,I'm going to make passionate love to *my* G21.
I'm talking seriously hot man-on-gun action!
Can I post pics?
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Old 11-23-2005, 22:30   #44
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with my luck, ill be the guy who gets this gun from gunbroker! Nicley done!
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:34   #45
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According to Larry Vickers the G21 is the worst Glock and can't stand up to the sand test. Only the 1911's that he builds, and the HK's, He has worked for HK. Will pass the sand test. Oh by the way I have seen a Vickers 1911 jam with less than 2000 rds through it.
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Old 11-24-2005, 07:46   #46
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According to Larry Vickers the G21 is the worst Glock and can't stand up to the sand test. Only the 1911's that he builds, and the HK's, He has worked for HK. Will pass the sand test. Oh by the way I have seen a Vickers 1911 jam with less than 2000 rds through it.
I have always wondered about comments about the "worst glock ever"? I wonder if hes biased?

Lets give Larry $600 to buy a 1911, and 100K rounds to put through it before the tests. The only thing hes allowed to replace is 1 recoil spring. Did he do this with the slide open or closed? Cocked and locked with a round in the chamber, or empty chamber hammer down?
What has amazed me, is my glock has over 100K rounds through it, and I dont have more than $600 invested in it.


Heres the sand tests I did with available pistols. They were tested 3 consecutive times without cleaning. The person shaking the bucket the first time wasnt shaking it too violently because he didnt like a locked and loaded pistol being banged around in a bucket pointed at his legs. I guess I dont have enough sense to worry about it.
This test isnt scientific, but it shows what I wanted to see. What will keep going -if not go bang every time, what will it take to keep running. A couple pistols here had to be completely detail stripped, white other had some failures to lock up, but were back int he fight after ejecting and chambering the next round.

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Old 11-24-2005, 10:01   #47
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About the only test left would be to contact NASA, strap it onto the front of a shuttle and see how it survives re-entering the Earth's atmosphere!
Or you could feed it to an elephant and see what the digestive juices would do to it. Of course you'd want to take the sights off first to "ease" the exit. We don't want the PETA group getting ticked off.
Awesome tests! Thanks!
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:33   #48
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Bigbore, thanks for the vids!

Wow, even the full size was defeated by the fine sand ;P
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:47   #49
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now that it's nice and consolidated, someone sticky it.
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According to Larry Vickers the G21 is the worst Glock and can't stand up to the sand test. Only the 1911's that he builds, and the HK's, He has worked for HK. Will pass the sand test. Oh by the way I have seen a Vickers 1911 jam with less than 2000 rds through it.
This is the dumbest kind of thinking. I swear, some people dislike glocks, simply because they are not a 1911. Ill be honest, i think a 1911 is antiquated! But it remains because somwhere, there is a guy sitting in a room reading a book about the 1911 and openly weaping thinking about pappy and his colt 45. This is such crap!!! Honestly, im a young shooter at 23 so i dont understand it, but give me a freakin brake....the future is now!
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