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Old 12-05-2004, 17:48   #1
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Speer Gold Dot vs. Double Tap

Hey all,

does anyone know the difference between factory Speer Gold Dot and Double Tap Gold Dot as far as velocity f.p.s and ft. lbs. energy, if any??? thanks in advance
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Old 12-05-2004, 19:31   #2
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Double Tap:
3.5" barrel - 1415fps
4.5" barrel - 1525fps

Speer:
4.0" barrel - 1350fps

Both have the same Gold Dot Bullet
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Old 12-05-2004, 20:16   #3
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Old 12-05-2004, 21:28   #4
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Years of Speer...Now carry the DT.;f
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Years of Speer...Now carry the DT.;f
I consider that a more than sufficient recommendation...

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Old 12-05-2004, 23:20   #6
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Old 12-06-2004, 05:45   #7
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Just ordered a box of Gold Dots from Double Tap, cant wait to try them out, thanks
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Old 12-07-2004, 14:26   #8
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:( May have to try these! I have carried the Speers for quite awhile! ;P Ummm! Where do you guys get them?;Q
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Old 12-07-2004, 14:44   #9
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Old 12-07-2004, 14:46   #10
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Nevermind! Just found the address in MCNETT's post!;a Oops! Caught your post a second late Bruce!;P
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Old 12-14-2004, 22:39   #11
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I just ordered some double tap, I got a box of the gold dot and a box of the FMJ to try it out. Should be here in a week, I also have speer gold dots and I just got a box of Federal 125 JHP. When I get the double tap I plan on doing a side by side test, I have access to a chronograph, and plan on hitting some phone books, water jugs, ply wood and anything else we can think of. I have not seen any yet but does Remington, Winchester, PMC or anyone else make 125's ( or anything else for that matter) for the 357 sig which is readily available? The more I have the more I shall test to see which performs "best". Yes a highly subjective term, I should say which one I am personally happiest and most confident with. Oh I will be shooting them out of a G33, I just ordered a 40 conversion barrel for it but I don't know how much use I will be getting out of it, probably just go shoot some and say, see how much "better" it is in 357 !! Or if I am feeling cheap and want to pick up some cheap ammo.
What are all your thoughts....
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I have not seen any yet but does Remington, Winchester, PMC or anyone else make 125's ( or anything else for that matter) for the 357 sig which is readily available?
Assuming you mean FMJ also...

Winchester makes 357Sig in the white box, Remington makes it in the UMC yellow box, and PMC has some as well (and I believe all three make JHPs as well).
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:13   #13
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T Earl,

Here's a partial list of what's out there:


1.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - CMJ
2.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - HP (Nosler)
3.) Alabama Ammo Inc. - 125g - JHP
**4.) Atlanta Arms & Ammo - 124g - FP TCJ (RL)
5.) Big Bear Firepower - 125g - JFP
6.) Birds-n-Bullets - 124g - FMP (RL)
**7.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - JHP
8.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 121g - JSP (RL)
9.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - FMJ (RL)
10.) Blue Ridge Cartridge - 124g - CPFP
11.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - FMJ
12.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - JHC
13.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
**14.) CCI Speer Blazer - 125g - TMJ
15.) CCI Speer Lawman -125g - TMJ
16.) CCI Speer Lawman RHT - 100g - frangible
17.) CCI Speer Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (23918 and 53918)
18.) CCI Speer LE Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (54234)
19.) CCI Speer Lawmen - 125g - TMJCF (clean-fire)
20.) Clark Custom Cartridge Company -100g - incendiary
**21.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - FMJ
**22.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - JHP
**23.) CNC Cartridge - 102g golden sabre - JHP
**24.) Collins Cartridge Comp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
25.) Colorado Custom Cartridge - 115g - FMJ
26.) Corbon - 115g - JHP
27.) Corbon - 125g - JHP
28.) Corbon DPX- 125g - DPX
29.) Corbon Pow'R Ball - 100gr - PB
**30.) Corbon BeeSafe - 91g - BS
31.) Crooked Creek Arms - 125g - JHP
**32.) Dead Zero Ammunition - 125g - XTP
33.) Detroit Ammunition Co. - 147g - HP (subsonic)(RL)
34.) Detroit Bullet Works - 124g - HP(plated)(RL)
35.) DFA - 85g - Nylon ( lead free )
36.) DoubleTap - 125g - JHP
37.) DoubleTap - 125g - FMJ
38.) DoubleTap - 115g - JHP
39.) DoubleTap - 147g - JHP
40.) DoubleTap - 147g - FMJ
41.) DoubleTap - 80g - Barnes TAC-XP
42.) DoubleTap - 115g - Barnes TAC-XP
43.) DoubleTap - 115g - Nosler JHP
44.) DoubleTap - 180g - WFNGC hardcast
45.) Extreme Shock Air Freedom - 85gr - AF
46.) Extreme Shock Enhanced Penetration - 115g -frangible
**47.) Extreme Shock - 90g - FFJHP
48.) Extreme Shock - 124g - FFJHP
49.) Extreme Shock-90g-JPT-(lead free-frangible)
50) Federal American Eagle - 125g - FMJ
51.) Federal - 125g - FMJ
52.) Federal - 125g - JHP
**53.) Federal - 150g - JHP
54.) Federal - 100g - CC BallistiClean
55.) Federal - 125g - HSTJHP
56.) Federal - 125g - THP (Tactical HP - bonded)
57.) Fiocchi - 124g - FMJ
58.) Fiocchi - 124g -XTPHP
59.) Fiocchi - 100g - SFN frangible
60.) Glaser - Blue - 80g - Safety Slug
61.) Glaser - Silver - 80g - Safety Slug
62.) Georgia Arms - 125g - FMJ
63.) Georgia Arms - 125g - GDHP
64.) Good To Go Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
65.) Good To Go Ammunition - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
66.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 90g - JHP
67.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - JHP
68.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - FMJ-FP
69.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP
70.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 110g - Extreme (JHP)
71.) Hornady - 115g - FXT (critical defense)
72.) Hornady - 124g - JHP
73.) Hornady - 147g - JHP
74.) Hornady - 124g - TAP CQ
75.) Hornady - 147g - TAP CQ
76.) Hornady - 135g - FlexLock (critical duty)
77.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 124g - PFP (plated flat point) (RL)
78.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 125g - TMJ (Speer)(RL)
79.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 124g - FP
80.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 147 - HP - XTP
81.) International Cartridge Corp. - 100g - HP - frangible
82.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - PHP (RL)
**83.) Lancer Custom - 125g - FMJ
**84.) Lancer Custom - 125g - XTP
**85.) Lancer Custom - 125g - JHP
86.) Load-X - 124g - TMJ
87.) Load-X - 115g - JHP
88.) Load-X - 124g - JHP
89.) M & M Reloads - 124g - CPFP (RL)
90.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc. - 64g - Defender
91.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc - 45g - Swat
92.) Maine Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP (RL)
93.) Master Cartridge - 125g - FMJ (RL)
94.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - FMJ
95.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - JHP
96.) Middle Creek Shooting Supply - 124g - FN (RL)
97.) Military Ballistics Industries - 124g - FMJ (RL)
98.) Miwall - 124g - TMJ (RL)
99.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
100.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (value line)(RL)
101.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (premium line)
102.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (premium line)
103.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
104.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (value line)(RL)
105.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (premium line)
106.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (premium line)
**107.) PMC - 124g - FMJ
**108.) PMC Starfire - 125g - JHP
**109.) Precision Ammunition - 125g - JHP
**110.) Precision Ammunition - 100g - copper matrix NTF (non-toxic frangible)
111.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 125g - FMJ (RL)
112.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 100g -RNFP - frangible (RL)
113.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - FMJ
114.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - HP/XTP
115.) Prograde - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
**116.) Pro-Load - 125g - JHP
117.) Prvi Partizan - 125g - FPJ
118.) RBCD - 60g - TFSP (total fragmenting soft point)
119.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 90g - XTP
120.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 115g - XTP
121.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 124g - XTP
122.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 147g - XTP
123.) Reed's Ammo & research - 124g - Gold Sabre
124.) Remington - 125g - JHP
125.) Remington Gold Sabre - 125g - BJHP
126.) Remington Disintegrator - 104g - plated frangible
127.) Remington Disintegrator CTF - 100g - Frangible
128.) RWS - 100g - copper matrix NTF
129.) SBR - 124g - FMJ SRVT (short range visible tracer)
130.) SBR - 124r - FMJ ERVT (extended range visible tracer)
131.) SBR - 147g - TCJ (Southern Ballistics Research)
132.) SBR - 130g - FMJ (TCJ) (Southern Ballistics Research)
133.) Sellier & Belliot - 140g - FMJ
134.) Sig Sauer - V-Crown - 125g - JHP
135.) Sillman Cartridge Company - 147g - FMJ
136.) Silver Bullet Munitions - 124g - FP (RL)
137.) Tennessee Cartridge Company - 125g - FMJ (RL)
**138.) Texas Ammunition Co. - 124g - FMJFP (RL)
**139.) Triton - 115g - JHP
**140.) Triton - 125g - JHP
**141.) Triton - 135g - JHP
142.) Ultramax - 125g - FMJ (RL)
143) UMC - 125g - FMJ
144.) UMC - 125g - JHP
145.) Underwood Ammunition - 124g - HP (RL)
146.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - GDJHP
147.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - BFMJ
148.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - JHP (Sierra bullet)
149.) Underwood Ammunition - 147g - GDJHP
150.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - TAC-XP
151.) Underwood Ammunition - 115g - JHP
152.) Underwood Ammunition - 124g - JHP - XTP
153.) Ventura Tactical - 125g - TC (Truncated Cone)(RL)
**154.) Wagner Acuswage - 125g - TMJ (RL)
155.) Webb's Brass Assets - 124g - FP
156.) Winchester - 125g - FMJ
157.) Winchester - 125g - JHP
158) Winchester - WinClean - 125g - BEB (brass enclosed base)
159.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - SXT
160.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - BJHP
161.) Winchester Ranger - 100g - SF - frangible
162.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)

** - no longer manufactured
(RL) - remanufactured round

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DoubleTap Ammunition
GTG Ammo
Underwood Ammo
Georgia Arms
Parabellum Research
Wisconsin Cartridge
Precision One Ammunition

Maybe we should make a sticky out of this list as I seem to post it quite frequently. G33???
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Old 12-15-2004, 13:49   #14
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plus Double Tap is coming out with a practice load!!!
Pretty sure it's already out.
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Old 12-15-2004, 20:30   #15
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Right!! That whole section was cut and pasted from another ( much earlier ) thread... like I said, I seem to post this often.
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Old 12-25-2004, 21:49   #16
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Double Tap in .357 sig kicks ass.;f
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Old 12-27-2004, 13:18   #17
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Duh!

I have made the switch, too.
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Old 12-30-2004, 00:45   #18
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Looks like I'm gonna make the switch to Double Tap also.

Damn!! Wasn't too long ago I did my 200 round test with the Speers!!!;g :(

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Old 12-30-2004, 12:59   #19
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Gold Dot

I've been using the Speer Gold Dots & Ranger SXT's for CCW rounds, but the DT looks interesting. Does anyone have the address to thier Website? Thank you, in advance. Have fun & stay safe! ;f ;f
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