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Old 08-19-2014, 09:10   #1
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Considerations before taking PSD (K9) position.

Any thoughts?
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:36   #2
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You'll most likely be paired with a Mali...And they are loony tune dogs. Lots of hard work, looong work and training days, with a fantastic payoff in the end...
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:49   #3
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Well, let's see.....

A list of things you will see, do, and deal with as a handler:

-Lots and lots of hair
-Getting bit by your own dog
-Training on your off days
-Coming in on off days to work special details
-More hair
-More time in court
-Your stuff getting chewed on
-Lots and lots of practice
-Hard work
-More hair
-Cleaning up dog crap
-Becoming an expert on what dog brushes are the best
-Buying lots and lots of kongs
-Some more hair

But above all, an extremely rewarding experience.


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Old 08-19-2014, 13:57   #4
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nevermind, my first post and see above
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Old 08-19-2014, 14:04   #5
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It's funny, I was just having this conversation with one of the younger deputies; he's got 6 years in Patrol, and he was debating whether to apply for one of the the recently posted K-9 slots; he came to me for advice (as many of the younger guys do, I not only work with them, but I had many of them as students from their very first day in the Academy) ;

I will tell you what I told him: It's a very special commitment, K-9 , and it has it's own set of challenges, not the least of which is an alteration to your off-duty life, because that dog lives with you and requires your care whether you are on duty or not, along with the call-out schedule, etc; But if it's what you really want to do, then you should GO FOR IT, because you never know until you try, we only live once and you shouldn't leave things undone, and if you don't like it or don't get selected, Patrol is always there, and you can always go back....

Do it.

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Old 08-20-2014, 23:43   #6
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I say go for it. Take the leap. Be willing to put I. The extra work and do your best to make your TEAM as awesome as you can. That means both of you. As soon as I can I want to work a dog and utilize the tool to work to make a difference. It is my opinion that k9 is the best possible PR tool that a department has. Also being a k9 has it's risks and liabilities but it seems like the best gig going. We shall see if I get selected to do it myself
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Old 08-21-2014, 02:50   #7
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Well, let's see.....

A list of things you will see, do, and deal with as a handler:

-Lots and lots of hair
-Getting bit by your own dog
-Training on your off days
-Coming in on off days to work special details
-More hair
-More time in court
-Your stuff getting chewed on
-Lots and lots of practice
-Hard work
-More hair
-Cleaning up dog crap
-Becoming an expert on what dog brushes are the best
-Buying lots and lots of kongs
-Some more hair

But above all, an extremely rewarding experience.


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Pretty much this. I've been K9 for almost 18 months now and it's been a ride. It's the most frustrating thing I've ever done and the most rewarding thing at the same time. I still love it and love my partner. If you handle a Malinois, the best advice I can give is that they're crazy. If you can accept that fact and move beyond it, then you'll be fine. They all have their own personalities and little quirks that a handler has to learn and get accustomed to.
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Old 08-21-2014, 13:09   #8
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How do they do with family? I have a one year old, five and six year old, living with me.
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Old 08-21-2014, 13:27   #9
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they must understand their place quickly especially a hard dog get with a master trainer right away to help you establish this.

Many mals are like on and off switches and are very good with family members.
You will have to evaluate your dog and where it perceives itself in the pack.

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Old 08-21-2014, 14:01   #10
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I now have my son's K9 Malinois Rocky as he is retired.
He is the most intelligent animal I have ever seen and is
very good with people, kids, and other animals. He is now
our other kid and stays most of the time with me where
ever I go. His commands are in German and Dutch and he
responds immediately with what ever he is told to do. He
loves his Kong toys and like to play with me a lot. He has
bitten me a couple of times but it was my fault. He does
have arthritis in his front legs and is slowly loosing his sight.

My job is to see he has a great retirement.


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Old 08-22-2014, 02:08   #11
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How do they do with family? I have a one year old, five and six year old, living with me.
A lot of it depends on the dog's individual personality. My dog was raised around kids and loves them. My 9 year old can pet him and I take my 16 month old daughter in the kennel all the time. He gets very happy and licks her to make her giggle. My wife can go into his kennel to feed him with no problems. It took several months to get my partner adjusted to my family but it worked out well. I've seen some dogs that were very hard and that I wouldn't think about allowing anywhere near my kids.
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:23   #12
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Personally, I loved the 4 years I spent in K9. If you love dogs and working your butt off, go for it.
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Old 08-22-2014, 13:10   #13
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K9 was the best job I had in more then 25yrs of being a cop, i went through 2 German Sheps.both were great dogs, it was a rewarding job as well as being very exciting,very little if any paperwork and no beat responsibility, just responded to cover calls, searches , in progress stuff.....but it was a lot of work and when my first dog died I did not think I would get over it.....but I did....take the job you will never get a better partner...
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Old 08-22-2014, 15:34   #14
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Well, let's see.....

A list of things you will see, do, and deal with as a handler:

-Lots and lots of hair
-Getting bit by your own dog
-Training on your off days
-Coming in on off days to work special details
-More hair
-More time in court
-Your stuff getting chewed on
-Lots and lots of practice
-Hard work
-More hair
-Cleaning up dog crap
-Becoming an expert on what dog brushes are the best
-Buying lots and lots of kongs
-Some more hair

But above all, an extremely rewarding experience.


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The only thing I can say regarding the dog hair:

FURMINATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is unbelievable how well they work.
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Old 08-22-2014, 18:40   #15
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My experience was much like Mikegun's. I spent eight years in The Unit with two more as the supervisor. I had two great dual-purpose GSD's and then a single-purpose Lab drug dog.

I recommend that prospective handlers train with the K9 teams for a few months before making a decision to go all in. I have seen guys have the "something shiny" syndrome and not really see how much thankless hard work is involved in learning how to train and deploy a K9 partner.

That said, I would not trade any of my career experiences for the electricity of being on the human end of the lead and tracking bad guys. The eight years I worked the mutts was the absolute greatest time of my 27 years behind the badge--and that includes 21 years in SWAT.

I hope it is something that you find is right for you. It is without question unbearably cool.

Randall

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Old 08-22-2014, 19:14   #16
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The only thing I can say regarding the dog hair:

FURMINATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is unbelievable how well they work.
The Kong brush is amazing too. I swear anything they make is solid gold in the dog world.
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Old 08-22-2014, 19:35   #17
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I miss my dope dog. I do not miss cleaning up dog crap, having to get home to let him out, all the training (I do miss training w/the other handlers though), or the politics that went with the K9.
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Old 08-23-2014, 18:30   #18
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The only thing I can say regarding the dog hair:

FURMINATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is unbelievable how well they work.
I have a Furminator and it works great. I use it almost daily but fur still goes everywhere. I realized a couple of things that nobody ever told me about before I got my partner.

1) Dog farts: high protein dog food+ enclosed spaces inside a vehicle=some NASTY, gag-a-maggot gas.

2) Running tracks on bad guys through thick brush with terrain at a slope of about 45 degrees sucks. Throw in 97-100 degree temps with about 70% humidity and it becomes miserable.

These are just a few things I realized nobody warned me about K-9. It can be tough, thankless work but when you hit that load of dope, find that bad guy or get the apprehension, it all suddenly becomes worth it.
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