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Old 10-28-2013, 14:10   #276
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I was at a Glock Armorer class a couple months ago and the instructor was not the normal instructors they send out. This guy was "higher in the company" than an instructor. He stated he, and others, viewed the engineering plans for a pistol in .380. He indicated prototypes were in the testing phase, but he and the others only saw the plans. He said it would be out by SHOT. Flame away but this is what he said in class.
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Old 10-28-2013, 17:21   #277
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Quick someone call Glock and tell them to stop production a Glock talk commenter doesn't agree with your decision.
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Old 10-28-2013, 17:35   #278
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Question to the Soothsayers...

Will this mythical Single-stack .45 ACP use mags that will also be compatible w/ my beloved G36? say, as 8-round reload mags?

If that is their intention, to produce a P220 replacement that will support the G36...?

...I'm in.

(although I'll hold off on the .380 pocket-wonder until it's available in 9mm.)




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Old 10-29-2013, 05:31   #279
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:32   #280
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if i was building a "high cap" G36 it woudl be chambered in 9x23/38 super type round not the 40SW
more rounds while still having good power
Perhaps better would be to produce a 9x22 Glock round and the pistol to go with it. Performance up to slightly higher than 357SIG with more rounds per magazine and the option to load longer and heavier bullets. I certainly see a good rational behind 9mm caliber with more power.

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Old 10-29-2013, 06:05   #281
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I also assume that it would use a G21 frame. It's the design experience for the slide that is lacking for a .45 ACP competition length slide...experience that is much stronger for a .45 GAP model.

The .45 GAP G37 slide is 30mm wide. There is already good experience at Glock for "Competition" ("Tactical/Practical") slides that are 30mm wide, which is also the width of G34 and G35 slides. Glock needs only to develop their third 30mm wide competition-length slide, for the .45 GAP, based on extending the G37 slide in light of established G34/G35 slide design experience.

The .45 ACP G21 uses a slide that is 32.5mm wide. Glock has no experience with any other model that uses a competition-length 32.5mm wide slide. There's bound to be a few things that come up due to the novel experience, not the least being design of the slots in the slide top that are required in order to reduce slide mass to achieve adequate slide velocity (as is required on all other Glock competition-length barrels).
I'm not arguing for a competition length .45 GAP. I think the same thing in .45 ACP would have much greater appeal (and utility). I'm only saying that a pistol for .45 GAP would be easier for Glock to develop properly and quickly.
Glock already has a 6 inch barrel for that frame, all they need to do is extend it with a cut out, just like a 17L or a 24.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:03   #282
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Perhaps better would be to produce a 9x22 Glock round and the pistol to go with it. Performance up to slightly higher than 357SIG with more rounds per magazine and the option to load longer and heavier bullets. I certainly see a good rational behind 9mm caliber with more power.

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If you're designing a new round, make it a straight wall case too. Maybe a .38 SS (super short)
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:53   #283
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We don't need another boutique round we need a firearm that is capable of the current popular rounds in the size everyone wants. I don't want another GAP or 5.7 handgun I want a single-stack, sub-compact 9mm in as small of a package as Glock can make to compete with the Shield, XDs and similar firearms because if Glock enters that segment it wouldn't even be a competition.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:16   #284
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If you're designing a new round, make it a straight wall case too. Maybe a .38 SS (super short)
Yes. I should have said straight wall and rimless, but I was thinking more a slightly shorter 9x23mm Winchester than a .38 Super.

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Old 10-29-2013, 12:21   #285
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Yes. I should have said straight wall and rimless, but I was thinking more a slightly shorter 9x23mm Winchester than a .38 Super.

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As cool as it would be, I have to agree with Jer. Stick with the current calibers. Let's hope for more powder improvements that will continue to increase 9x19 velocity without crossing the +p pressure threshold.

I think the biggest market right now is the XDs and M&P Shield market. Pretty much no one has released a problem free gun in that size, with a track record similar to say the introduction of the G26. And I'm talking overall track records, which doesn't mean a lot of people haven't had good luck with them. They both have recall warnings listed in the latest American Rifleman. It seems the jump from the sub compact to slim subcompact has many challenges.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:31   #286
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right single stack 9mm i think goood plan

if they make a gen 4G (or 5 or what ever) G21 G30 and G36 make them all have the same locking block so you coudl take the slim G21 (if made) slide and have a 30L and 36L

the9x23 thought is jsut as an option on the G21 30 and 36 for max rounds in a mag that has to be deep for the 45acp anyhow

just thinking that 10 rounds of 9x23 in a G36 woudl be great
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:41   #287
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If you're designing a new round, make it a straight wall case too. Maybe a .38 SS (super short)
Yes. I should have said straight wall and rimless, but I was thinking more a slightly shorter 9x23mm Winchester than a .38 Super.

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As cool as it would be, I have to agree with Jer. Stick with the current calibers. Let's hope for more powder improvements that will continue to increase 9x19 velocity without crossing the +p pressure threshold.

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I think the 9x19 has reached its limit and for me that limit is too low. To get more performance you just have to have more case capacity and a higher pressure limit would be good too. The .38 Super has the same pressure limit as the 9x19 and it is its extra case capacity that reduces the initial pressure spike and lets it maintain a higher average pressure. A 9x22mm would provide enough headroom for a fairly wide range of loadings. The 9x23mm Winchester does that as well but Winchester have a hold on it and they have done a very poor marketing and development job with it.

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Old 10-29-2013, 14:03   #289
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Methinks the small .380 is new and exciting - as of five years ago. Glock may best target the XDS sized market with a similar 45ACP...Cheers.
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Old 11-09-2013, 15:25   #290
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NEWS ALERT:

Can't mention any names (Guy in Red Suit with White Beard), but the word is the Glock 40 designation is assigned to a new .44 Automag pistol which will be a single stack with 7 round mags.
It will be released at 4:41 am on Black Friday (This year kids!) in Smyrna. First 2000 people in the door get one for free with a canned food donation valued at $800.

See you there.
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Old 11-09-2013, 16:14   #291
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And I thought that Glock was going to introduce the new 50GI for the 21 frame. That's what I get for thinkin.
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Old 11-09-2013, 16:29   #292
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Yes. I should have said straight wall and rimless, but I was thinking more a slightly shorter 9x23mm Winchester than a .38 Super.

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Ohh maybe sort of like a .356 TSW?
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Old 11-09-2013, 19:19   #293
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Any new serious updates on the new Glock Models?
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:44   #294
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And I thought that Glock was going to introduce the new 50GI for the 21 frame. That's what I get for thinkin.
Nah, more likely the .50 GAP for the G37 Frame.
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Old 11-11-2013, 17:27   #295
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41, 42, 43, 44, whatever. All I need is to figure out is how to hold on to my G29 this time around. Dadgum dollar bills keep getting in the way of that!


Although, a 50 GAP does sound quite interesting...
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Old 11-11-2013, 19:49   #296
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What would that thing hold? 7 in a full size maybe 4 in the sub?
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Old 11-11-2013, 20:32   #297
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IMHO, considering the Glock 22 is in .40 SW, I think it would only be fitting that the Glock 40 be .22 LR. :D

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Old 11-11-2013, 23:10   #298
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Man...that's just not right. Thanks for sharing your intel, though.

It should be as follows:

G41 Competition .45ACP (like the 34/35)
G42 Single-stack 9x19

Of course, the Glock 40 will only be for those who are professional enough to carry it
Does this mean you will have to show a valid competition license, or ATF creds to buy?
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Old 11-11-2013, 23:13   #299
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OK, got it but what happened to the glock 40
They don't have one, yet, or possibly ever.
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:58   #300
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Sounds like the 41 would also make a sweet platform for the 45 Super-
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