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Old 10-06-2013, 12:49   #21
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TexAg, any update on your pistol?
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:51   #22
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Still waiting for the new RSA they're sending me.
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:58   #23
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My own G20 when brand new, came out of the box a total jam-o-matic. It had a bad trigger bar rubbing against the bottom of the slide so hard that it just would not move freely at all - ever. It also had some kind of coating of crap all over the extractor that looked like a coating of epoxy glue from being glued into the slot - or if it was some other accidental coating, somebody would have had to hammer the extractor into the slide instead of making sure it fit and moved freely. The extractor was stuck in place that hard, and had to be pried out of it's slot with a metal tool....

It's totally amazing how bad the quality control at the Glock factory must be to let people get away with assembling a gun so horribly incorrect. I really think a disgruntled employee deliberately sabotaged my new gun when he put it together. you couldn't possibly screw up a gun that badly by accident.
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Old 10-07-2013, 17:24   #24
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Got the RSA today in the mail. It does pass the function test posted in the above video so far. Will let y'all know as soon as I get to the range how it works.
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Old 10-07-2013, 19:39   #25
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I'm just a newbe to Glocks but my recently purchased G20SF has been flawless for around 300 rds. . I've only used 180gr. Precision One ammo and Underwood 165gr. in it so far. I'm probably guilty of overlubing it as I treat it like my other pistols. The only "mod" I've done is to polish down the bump in the trigger bar because it rubbed against the frame to the point where it made the trigger feel heavier. Personally I would let Glock sort it out before I changed anything. Again, I'm a Glock newbe and my opinion is worth what you paid for it.

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Old 10-07-2013, 21:29   #26
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nunnya,
You're correct, you are probably over-lubing the pistol.
It's entirely possible to run a Glock DRY.
In the 16 or so years I've worked in gunshops, I've seen more malfunctions with Glocks due to over lubrication than any other single cause.
I've cleaned my G20 with lacquer thinner & run it 500 rounds to test it, zero malfunctions. I've also lubed it with powdered graphite, as one would in artic conditions & it's run perfectly.
Lube per the owners manual & plan on giving it to your great-grandchildren, because you won't wear it out.

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Old 10-29-2013, 20:26   #27
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Finally got to shoot it with the new RSA. Got through about 25 rounds of PPU fine, but then shot the 200 grain PBR and got about 5 FTF out of 50 rounds. Not happy. Guess I'll be sending it back to Glock. I know I should probably try another brand of ammo, but I hate finicky guns.
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Old 10-29-2013, 20:44   #28
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I thought about maybe needing extra power springs in the magazines as a
possible fix, but I don't want to go chasing ghosts either.
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Old 10-29-2013, 21:19   #29
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That gun isn't supposed to be finicky. I'd send it back or else have it looked at by a Glock armorer. Something's wrong. It's probably something simple but I'm like you. I don't like a finicky gun. My G20SF feeds everything I put through it. If it didn't I would get it fixed or else get rid of it. I can't imagine trusting my life to an unreliable pistol.
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Old 10-29-2013, 21:36   #30
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That gun isn't supposed to be finicky. I'd send it back or else have it looked at by a Glock armorer. Something's wrong. It's probably something simple but I'm like you. I don't like a finicky gun. My G20SF feeds everything I put through it. If it didn't I would get it fixed or else get rid of it. I can't imagine trusting my life to an unreliable pistol.
Exactly right. One of the top reasons to have a Glock 20 is reliability. Glock needs to make this right. Something is wrong here.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:48   #31
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I thought about maybe needing extra power springs in the magazines as a
possible fix, but I don't want to go chasing ghosts either.
Agree let Glock figure it out.

Which RSA are you using?

PPU works fine?
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:04   #32
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It's a stock Glock RSA that Glock sent me.
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:24   #33
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It's a stock Glock RSA that Glock sent me.
Thanks. I know you don't want to go chasing ghosts, and I don't blame you. What I can tell you is I had some extraction issues with full power ammo. What solved the problem was a 22 pound RSA. It runs great with full power Underwood loads.
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Old 10-30-2013, 17:09   #34
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Interesting. I'd performed the test except I had the pistol pointed horizontally or down, but with it pointed up it failed to close. Rediculously weak spring from the factory? I guess so. Guess I'll go with the Wolff springs earlier than I expected. 22lbs?
I use a 19 lb spring in my 20.
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Old 10-30-2013, 17:20   #35
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I run a 22lb RSA on my G20SF because I run really hot reloads (hotter than book) and it keeps the slide from battering the frame.

BUT that gun should run perfectly with the stock setup.

My G20SF will feed anything, literally.

Something is wrong, send it back.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:20   #36
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Talked to Glock today, they want me to pay shipping to them. Is this the norm for Glock? I thought I'd seen where they would send you a shipping label?
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Old 11-07-2013, 13:57   #37
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Yeah I've heard others say that Glock wanted them to pay shipping. I'm sure if you insist otherwise that they'll pay. As for your 20, it should be reliable with any and every kind of ammo, so definitely send it in.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:27   #38
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Normally if the gun is new or fairly new they will pick up the shipping. I would be polite but insist they pay for shipping. The gun should run all commercially available ammo with oem springs. Your picture of the nose up jam papered to be an xtp bullet, not considered a hard to feed bullet. Nor is your problem and over Lubed gun. I've seen vids of glocks submerged in 10-30 and the guns run fine. The sucky thing is I'm sure the cost to fix would be cheaper than the shipping. My bet is still the ejector and or extractor. I've shot piles of hot (135 @ 1500fps) ammo through my bone stock 20sf. At about 20k rounds I started having problems feeding some 155gr lead SWC. I put in some fresh oem mags springs and everything went back to normal. The mags never did have a problem with fmj or HP.
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:22   #39
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The only gun manufacturer that I have had send me a shipper (shipping paid) was Springfield. They were great on a gun that went back and forth multiple times.

SIG and S&W both have required I pay shipping on manufacturing defect returns. I have not had to send anything to Glock, so I have no personal experience.

Maybe worst case you can talk them into sending you a shipper that you pay the freight on, as their cost will likely be less than yours (overnight rates).

Another alternative would be if you are friendly with a local FFL, they will get a better rate as well, maybe buy them a six pack for their trouble?
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Old 11-08-2013, 21:32   #40
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Colt and Ruger required me to pay shipping to send brand new guns
in that were having problems. No reimbursement for the shipping, but
they did send them back on their dime. I'm fortunate if I ever have a
Glock problem as I only live 45 minutes south of their facility.

Either I'm VERY lucky or Glock produces very few lemons, but out
of just south of 40 Glocks I've owned none have required more than
a RSA replacement, and after calling Glock they offer to and did mail
them to me instead of making me drive there or having to buy a
retail replacement to fix it. My G20SF was one that had a bad RSA
when newly purchased and Glock sent a replacement and had it in my
hands within 3 days of my call.

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