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Old 10-28-2013, 19:35   #226
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Hmmm firing a shot into the air.
Hope you get the point... firing a shot at 150 yards off... will NOT scare a practiced, illegally-trespassing woodsman. NEVER.

It will either wake him up... or alert him that he has been cross-haired. Either way... said trespasser will try to sneak off back to his ride. That is all you want to happen in deep woods.


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Old 10-28-2013, 19:35   #227
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I was shooting rifles on the range of a gun club I used to belong to years ago, when someone hollered cease fire. Around the end of the canyon came a bunch of dirt bikers riding right across the 100 yard target line of our clearly posted private range.

I think the thought of having some moving target practice probably entered every ones mind. But of course no one did. Good thing someone heard them coming. With plugs and muffs and all the shooting going on around me, I sure didn't hear them coming.
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Old 10-28-2013, 19:40   #228
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Now some of this is clearly the right idea. When they hear the shot go off they will run if doing something wrong.
Friend... they... you... me.... anybody with any common sense....

Will ALWAYS run from gunfire, if given the chance. ALWAYS.

It sorta comes natural.

It works when the "talking" is on EVEN terms.

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Old 10-28-2013, 19:43   #229
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I was shooting rifles on the range of a gun club I used to belong to years ago, when someone hollered cease fire. Around the end of the canyon came a bunch of dirt bikers riding right across the 100 yard target line of our clearly posted private range.

I think the thought of having some moving target practice probably entered every ones mind. But of course no one did. Good thing someone heard them coming. With plugs and muffs and all the shooting going on around me, I sure didn't hear them coming.
You got that right. Not all trespassing is intentional... or even known about by the culprits.

Nobody needs the ULTIMATE punishment for an oversight or silly mistake.

My last post on the subject.... it was a good discussion.

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Old 10-28-2013, 19:50   #230
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This one needs to die . It's run its course .
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Old 10-28-2013, 19:54   #231
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Is Bigfoot a trespasser?
I thought this was universal knowledge. Not only does bigfoot know he is trespassing. More imortantly, he can smell what you had for dinner last night.

My advice to the op is to carry a pen and paper and leave a nice note under the windshield with your phone number.

Game cameras are another unobtrusive and non confrontational way to gather info. If they don't call you and ask for permission and then continue to violate your land. call the popo.

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Old 10-30-2013, 01:05   #232
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This thread is way out of hand.
I read your first few replies then looked for more but there aren't any except for this one.

There are so many replies by people posting opinions but they don't know the full story....out of hand is an understatement!

I'd normally say I'm shocked by everyone here but the sad trueth is that I'm not. Like slowing down to see an accident you can't help yourself!
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:42   #233
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I still wonder why the OP doesn't even know who's farming his land! Liability alone would scare me to death. Why wouldn't you go speak to this individual after years of letting him profit off your land with no compensation?
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:24   #234
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As I think has been mentioned, in some states / areas using land as "farmland" substantially reduces taxes (as in, sometimes almost zero) versus potential "building lots" which have high property taxes.

That can be a pretty large "compensation" over the years, if you want to look at it that way. If this has been going on for decades (or even generations), and the original poster just came into ownership of the land, maybe he just hasn't had the chance to meet the farmer yet?
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:04   #235
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You got that right. Not all trespassing is intentional... or even known about by the culprits.
A recurring theme here is, "I didn't know I was on someone else's land".
If someone did give you permission to hunt on their land, you should be responsible enough to at least learn the layout of the land.

It comes to mind that if you are that incompetent, should you really be walking around the woods with a gun in the first place?


This thread is a good example why most land owners refuse to allow anyone on their land.
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:55   #236
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You got that right. Not all trespassing is intentional... or even known about by the culprits.

Nobody needs the ULTIMATE punishment for an oversight or silly mistake.

My last post on the subject.... it was a good discussion.

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Trespassing deliberately or trespass because you just don't care who owns it doesn't make much difference to me. The harshest punishment the law allows is what I'll do everything I possibly can to ensure.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:31   #237
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A recurring theme here is, "I didn't know I was on someone else's land".
If someone did give you permission to hunt on their land, you should be responsible enough to at least learn the layout of the land.

It comes to mind that if you are that incompetent, should you really be walking around the woods with a gun in the first place?


This thread is a good example why most land owners refuse to allow anyone on their land.
Have you ever gotten lost? Or accidentally made your way to somewhere you didn't intend to be?

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Trespassing deliberately or trespass because you just don't care who owns it doesn't make much difference to me. The harshest punishment the law allows is what I'll do everything I possibly can to ensure.
What about option C: Trespassing because they believe they are on one side of a property line when they are actually on the other.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:46   #238
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I would wait by the truck with mine running close to dark and just chat with the fella. Also you need to discuss rights of use with the farmer fella. If you don't want hunting you should also post the land.

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If you have a neighbor that could have possibly given permission and this guy failed land navigation, talk to him. If he just picked out a spot and started hunting, I'd just call the game warden. If you go out to talk with him, take lots of friends.

Once this is settled, post your land no hunting and no trespassing. You can still give permission to anyone you want, but looky loos will hopefully pass your land by.
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Old 10-30-2013, 14:35   #240
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never said if your land was posted or not
most wardens wont bother if the land is not posted
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Old 10-30-2013, 14:53   #241
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Five days without hearing from the OP. He must be having a hard time finding that farmer!
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Old 10-30-2013, 16:20   #242
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Five days without hearing from the OP. He must be having a hard time finding that farmer!

He may have been posting from the wrong side of the property line .....
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Old 10-30-2013, 19:19   #243
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Have you ever gotten lost? Or accidentally made your way to somewhere you didn't intend to be?



What about option C: Trespassing because they believe they are on one side of a property line when they are actually on the other.
Prosecute and punish. Severely.

As a hunter it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to know where you are and where you have permission to be. How hard can it be to get that through people's thick skull.

You choose to hunt, you choose to carry a weapon, you choose to fire it, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHERE THAT BULLET GOES. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE TO KNOW WHERE YOU ARE.

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Old 01-11-2014, 21:59   #244
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Update? They still out there?
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Did his father use to hunt the land?



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