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Old 10-11-2013, 18:11   #26
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Having fired tens of thousands of rounds through Gen 4 Glocks with zero issues all my future Glocks will be Gen 4. The one I shoot the most has fired 48,100 flawless rounds.
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Old 10-11-2013, 18:15   #27
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G26 Gen 4 with over 1000 rds...not one FTF or FTE using WWB, Aguila, American Eagle, Wichester NATO, Blazer Brass and other assorted premium ammo...no complaints...don't believe everything your hear (bad) about Glocks....
So you think when your little 26 runs flawlessly, than all Glocks out there must be flawless too?

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Old 10-11-2013, 18:46   #28
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So you think when your little 26 runs flawlessly, than all Glocks out there must be flawless too?
Axe to grind??

Now come on, did he write anything remotely like what you're suggesting?!
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:11   #29
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I've had 3 Gen 4 Glock 19's since they came out and I've not had the first problem with any of them. I've fired thousands of rounds through them.
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:18   #30
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About 3K through my 2011 vintage G4 19.
No issues at all.

I recommend Gen4 to everyone, as I think the grip pattern and changeable backstraps are superior.
Gen 3's were being reported as having problem about the same time Gen 4's were.
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:49   #31
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Most gun store clerks still believe that a too strong dual recoil assembly was the culprit. The gen3's had the same problems. That's why the recoil spring assemblies in the early gen4 9mm was never the reason of early, and later gen4 9mm problems. Also, the gen4 g23 had initially the same problems (.40 generates more recoil energy) as the 9mm versions, BTFace, and failure to ejects, so that's why it can't be the recoil spring. Glock modified the front end of the dual recoil assemblies, so that it sits better against the slide, and doesn't slip through the slide/muzzle during shooting. Glock had to do something to avoid costly lawsuits, and mass recalls of entire guns. Companies are somewhat/ a little better protected as long as they tried to fix a problem before a lawsuit was filed. The extractor was the culprit all along, IMO.

Anyway, I think that the newer production Glock 19, and others are good to go now. Go buy one and enjoy it!
Have followed your post for sometime now and believe that you have been spot on with your assessment of the problems many of the Glock Gen 4 pistols have had. I realize that fewer folks had problems than those who did not, but also am curious if many folks that own the newer Gen 4 pistols had an earlier Gen 3 to compare with, would they be able to detect functional differences. Consistent extraction/ejection comes to mind vs. dribble on the wrist or forcibly hit in the head. Perhaps some folks accept this as the norm.

Hopefully Glock will take from the Gen 4 experience that when and if new problems occur regarding future Gen 5 production, to keep a better pulse on problems and have the attitude to confront them head on instead of waiting for folks to come to them. Are you listening Glock??
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:51   #32
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Fixed??? Really? Tried to help a young police officer who's new issue g17 after 400 rounds was hitting him in the head. Watched a man with a new G19 bang round after round off his noggin right out of the box. so their are still problems. The newer ones are less likely to have problems. But have no doubt they are still out there. For over two years people have been saying the problems are fixed. Then why are their still new problem guns? Lots of Apex and Lone Wolf extractors being sold for all the problems gone.
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Old 10-12-2013, 19:55   #33
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Uncountable rounds through a Gen 4 17, 19, (2) 21s, 23, 26, 27 and 29. Not a single hiccup.
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:09   #34
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How do I know if my Gen 4 G27 needs the spring upgrade ?
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:13   #35
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I have just over 4000 through my 17 with no issues. My 29 only has about 1000. Still... no issues.
4,000 rounds, no issues, sounds pretty good.

I've been a 1911 guy (my daily carry gun for <20 years) for quite a while, but in the last decade or so my 1st Gen G17 has really begun to grow on me.

Having a buddy down at Quantico fix the slide with an RMR for my aging eyes, just as an experiment. :-)

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Old 10-12-2013, 20:16   #36
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Only rational reason I've heard for getting a gen 3 is for the higher caliber pistols, so one may purchase third party higher pressure springs to handle recoil. Like the G20, and Mods for the G21.
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:20   #37
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No problems yet with my two new Gen 4's.
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:45   #38
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I know, I know, every gun has issues. Glocks included. Glock did handle it well by not denying that the gun had a problem, but I never heard anything about the problem being solved.
OK, I give. What 'problem' do you speak of? G27 Gen4 owner, several hundred rounds of mixed brands/types, no issues.
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:50   #39
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OK, I give. What 'problem' do you speak of? G27 Gen4 owner, several hundred rounds of mixed brands/types, no issues.
As of date, i've shot about 400 rnds thru my g27 gen 4 no probs at all, no break in ...nothing...some of it was cheap steel russian stuff too...

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Old 10-12-2013, 21:14   #40
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I've only had two Gen4s. But they both work. April '12 production G23 with a few thousand rds. April '13 production G17 with a few hundred. I've been happy with both so far. No hiccups and ejection seems to be no different from any of the other pistols I've owned.
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Old 10-13-2013, 06:06   #41
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I have alot of Gen 4 glocks including the original 22. Never had an issue with any of them.
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Old 10-13-2013, 09:31   #42
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In two different trials, a Glock 19 Gen 4 shot 10.000 rounds in just one day without any issues. Another Gen 4 Glock, 17 shot 35.000 rounds in three days with two failure to feeds and failure to fire / ignite with just one trigger pin breakage at 35.000 rounds...

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Old 10-13-2013, 10:04   #43
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Have followed your post for sometime now and believe that you have been spot on with your assessment of the problems many of the Glock Gen 4 pistols have had. I realize that fewer folks had problems than those who did not, but also am curious if many folks that own the newer Gen 4 pistols had an earlier Gen 3 to compare with, would they be able to detect functional differences. Consistent extraction/ejection comes to mind vs. dribble on the wrist or forcibly hit in the head. Perhaps some folks accept this as the norm.

Hopefully Glock will take from the Gen 4 experience that when and if new problems occur regarding future Gen 5 production, to keep a better pulse on problems and have the attitude to confront them head on instead of waiting for folks to come to them. Are you listening Glock??
It is generally believed that guns made in 2008 were the old GLOCK PERFECTION. Guns made since, not so much. The Gen 4 was introduced at the Shot Show in 2010.

There are hundreds of BTF and FTF 9mm threads in this forum over the last two or three years. Guns failing in the hands of experts.

The routine answer is always wimpy ammo or limp wristing. It just isn't true.

There are also a large number of users who have never had a problem with either the late model Gen 3s or the Gen 4s. I suspect the vast majority have no problems at all. But that is of no help to those who do.

The frequency of BTF threads has decreased in recent months so it is likely that the occurrence of the problems has been greatly reduced. Or everybody has taken to wearing a hat...

I'm not in the market for ANY 9mm so it's no big deal. I'm not looking for a Glock .40, either. I MIGHT buy a G39 if I run across one.

I had reservations when I bought my Gen 3 G36 and as long as I run full power loads, the gun works fine. Reduced loads, not so much... It especially hates semi-wadcutters at light loadings. My Gen 3 G21SF eats everything.

I really think the problems have been resolved. I certainly don't see all the threads like earlier in the year. So, maybe, everything will be fine with the newer guns.

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Old 10-13-2013, 10:46   #44
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OK, I give. What 'problem' do you speak of? G27 Gen4 owner, several hundred rounds of mixed brands/types, no issues.
The following problems have been reported...
  1. Failure to extract.
  2. Spent shell casings ejecting upwards.
  3. The slides not moving forward after firing.

Supposedly its ether the extractor or the old recoil spring that gave the guns issues. As I said earlier, I don't own a gen 4 Glock, just a gen 3 G30 with the "new" spring system.
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Old 10-13-2013, 16:01   #45
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3 Gen 4's for me. I would not hesitate to recommend to anyone. These pistols fire everytime. I never have to worry about failures. Clean or dirty they fire everytime.
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Old 10-13-2013, 16:34   #46
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How come we don't hear about anyone commenting on Gen 1 and 2 Glocks...I guess they were a POS before the Gen3...and now Gen4...I love my Glock Gen4....change is good...it just takes time...LOL!!
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Old 10-13-2013, 18:47   #47
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So far so good! All my Gen4 glocks- G23, G27, G22, & G19 have been 100% reliable! The G33 is still on layaway! I'm not afraid to buy! The only complaint is that it's the matte finish, & not the glossy, shiny black finish that I prefer( my G20, G30, & G26 )! It seems more durable! But, it all good!
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Old 10-13-2013, 20:53   #48
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How come we don't hear about anyone commenting on Gen 1 and 2 Glocks...I guess they were a POS before the Gen3...and now Gen4...I love my Glock Gen4....change is good...it just takes time...LOL!!
You don't hear much about the Gen1 and Gen 2 Glocks because they worked. I picked up an early Gen 2 G-19 around 1995, I don't have any idea as to round count other than it would be extremely high with a couple of box cars of lead through it also, it's 1st and only failure came last fall when the trigger spring failed.
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Old 10-14-2013, 05:49   #49
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Are we still beating this dead horse? Let's try to get over it.
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Old 10-19-2013, 17:43   #50
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I bought a G17 gen 4 about a year ago works great except for ejecting brass. I get the brass landing anywhere from my front tooth to 20 feet in front of me to 20 feet behind me.
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