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Old 10-15-2013, 19:53   #1
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What is the slowest bullet.

I'm just messing with an idea. I'm looking for something dangerous at close range that loses speed fast.
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Old 10-15-2013, 19:59   #2
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Anything in 45 ACP.


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Old 10-15-2013, 20:22   #3
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Maybe .50GI with a real heavy cast bullet with a light powder load, enough to cycle the slide.
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Old 10-15-2013, 20:27   #4
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Old 10-15-2013, 20:46   #5
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I'll bet if I was to use some kind of plastic sabot round I could slow it down a lot. Very little drag in the barrel.
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Old 10-15-2013, 21:35   #6
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I'm just messing with an idea. I'm looking for something dangerous at close range that loses speed fast.
That would probably depend on the caliber.

A 9mm JHP self-defense round at, say, 1050 fps would be dangerous and the same could be said for a .45ACP round traveling at 750 fps.

The catchphrase of course is "at close range"; but in reality every bullet is dangerous from whatever distance unless it's of insufficient power to penetrate the human body.
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Old 10-15-2013, 21:38   #7
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Anything in 45 ACP.

hehehe... true enough.

A .380acp would be my guess.

Next would be a .38spl.
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Old 10-15-2013, 21:48   #8
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I have a daisy pellet pistol that fires at about 250fps. Is that slow enough?

I think paint balls and airsoft projectiles are in that same category in terms of velocity.

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I know a 38 S&W round is very slow. Not a special but the short 38 caliber.

I also read in Hatcher's notebook that General Hatcher said that he shot someone in the back of the hand who was holding a gun. I think he hit him in the back of the hand by accident, but he shot him with a 32 S&W and it caused the suspect to drop the gun and run away. When they caught this guy he noticed that the bullet did not even penetrate his hand and just left a bruise!
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Old 10-15-2013, 23:01   #10
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I'm just messing with an idea. I'm looking for something dangerous at close range that loses speed fast.
A bowling ball.
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A story about David and Goliath comes to mind.
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Old 10-15-2013, 23:38   #12
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I'm just messing with an idea. I'm looking for something dangerous at close range that loses speed fast.
I have an old magazine article somewhere about making wood bullets for magnum revolvers. They start out at very high velocities, but slow down very quickly due to their light weight and poor sectional density. I think several companies have tried to do the same with plastic bullets, and I believe at least one attempt was made to use aluminum bullets. All were very dangerous at short range, but slowed down very quickly and would fall to earth and tumble to a stop within a few hundred yards, IIRC.

Less dangerous up close were the Speer powered-only-by-a-primer plastic target ammo. Some used plastic cases, and some used modified brass cases. All bullets were black plastic wadcutter-style slugs, and could be stopped (even at close range) by a couple of layers of heavy canvas or section of carpet hanging vertically.

For conventional ammo, folks have loaded the .38 Special cartridge down around 600 FPS for training new shooters or short-range plinking for years. I checked my old Lyman Reloading Handbook #46, and it shows .38 Special cast bullet loads as slow as 600 FPS, and lightweight jacketed bullet loads as slow as the upper-400-to-low-500-FPS range.

With loads this light, you have to very careful and observant to keep from blowing up your handgun due to a bullet getting stuck in the barrel. Any shot that does not produce a hole in the paper, dirt flying, or other target reaction must be taken as a sign to stop and check the bore, or the next shot could be much more exciting.

Finally, any .22 handgun will shoot .22 CB Caps, CB Shorts, or CB Longs, although you will probably have to single-load them (and maybe manually extract the cases). These are rated for about 600-700 FPS out of a rifle, but will depart considerably slower out of a handgun's short barrel; however, they are still quite dangerous (I have killed small game with them, even when shot from a handgun).


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Old 10-15-2013, 23:51   #13
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.32 auto 650-700 fps
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:32   #14
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.455 Webley is a slow poke. 265g LRN at 600fps. Sounds pretty pitiful to me, but the Brits used it for quite some time.
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I'm just messing with an idea. I'm looking for something dangerous at close range that loses speed fast.
Can you say the purpose?

Birdshot loses speed fast. Find the right size, between bird and buck for your purpose perhaps?

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With loads this light, you have to very careful and observant to keep from blowing up your handgun due to a bullet getting stuck in the barrel. Any shot that does not produce a hole in the paper, dirt flying, or other target reaction must be taken as a sign to stop and check the bore, or the next shot could be much more exciting.


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That's exactly what would concern me.
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What is the slowest bullet

Is that a "loaded" question?
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I'm getting ready to firelapp my Ruger Bisley, and you have to run the lapping bullets very slow. I worked up some that averaged a mighty 380 fps, smoking. Also trying it on a few .40's and got a 180gr sizzling out at 480 fps. It won't cycle the slide, but hey the recoil is so light even 9mm guys won't complain about it.
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.455 Webley is a slow poke. 265g LRN at 600fps. Sounds pretty pitiful to me, but the Brits used it for quite some time.
The Webley was my first thought.
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